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#163145 Oct 14, 2012
KiMare wrote:
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/M ilitary/2012/0119/Pentagon-rep ort-Sexual-assault-in-the-mili tary-up-dramatically
Your source is about as reliable as World Nut Daily or Lifesitenews......here's what it says in the about us:
No, it’s a real news organization owned by a church – The First Church of Christ, Scientist, in Boston, Mass., USA.

I'd rather you provide a credible news source......thanks!!!
Winston Smith

Silver Spring, MD

#163146 Oct 14, 2012
KiMare wrote:
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/M ilitary/2012/0119/Pentagon-rep ort-Sexual-assault-in-the-mili tary-up-dramatically
"The rate of violent sexual crime has increased 64 percent since 2006 according to the US Army report, which noted that “rape, sexual assault, and forcible sodomy were the most frequent violent sex crimes committed in 2011.”
"The study warns that reports of crimes such as forcible sodomy may increase among males in the coming year with the repeal of the law that barred openly gay troops from serving in the military.“Now victims may be more likely to report sexual offenses in the absence of the former Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy,” since troops no longer have to fear being removed from the military if it is discovered that they are gay."
"Even in the face of increasing rates of rape and aggravated assault in the military, Mr. Panetta emphasized that “we assume this is a very underreported crime,” and that incidents of sexual assault are roughly six times as high as reports of the crime. Last year there were 3,191 reports of sexual assault throughout the US military, but Panetta said that, realistically, the estimate for assaults “actually is closer to 19,000.”
Did you bother reading the entire article or did you just mine it for your argument?
YourLink wrote:
While women comprise 14 percent of the Army ranks, they account for 95 percent of all sex crime victims.

The study warns that reports of crimes such as forcible sodomy may increase among males in the coming year with the repeal of the law that barred openly gay troops from serving in the military.“Now victims may be more likely to report sexual offenses in the absence of the former Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy,” since troops no longer have to fear being removed from the military if it is discovered that they are gay.
Pay particular attention to this:
YourLink wrote:
At the time of the study’s publication,“There were no discernible trends regarding same gender sex crimes.”
Nothing in your link gives any substance to your argument.

BTW, rape is not a crime of sexual desire. It is about control. You're using the actions of criminals to marginalize the innocent.
Torqued

Covina, CA

#163147 Oct 14, 2012
Nothing better than torquing a Republican, tea bagger.
Qwidgibo

Beaverton, OR

#163148 Oct 14, 2012
http://m.csmonitor.com/About/Advertise/Awards

How many Pulitzers does YOUR legitimate news source have?

If you consider the csmonitor illegitimate, you're just admitting you don't know much about news.
Winston Smith

Silver Spring, MD

#163149 Oct 14, 2012
KiMare wrote:
The military is not exempt from theses statistics;
http://www.ibiblio.org/rcip/lgbtq.html
Woman on woman sexual assault
Overview:
Rape: When the assailant is one of our own
"Sexual assault isn't committed just by men. Lesbians who have been raped by other lesbians are beginning to speak out, but they're finding support slow in coming--from the legal system, victim support lines and our own community"
Woman on Woman sexual assault.
http://www.sfwar.org/node/view/33
"Did you know that....
women can be raped by other women?
women can sexually assault other women?
violence occurs in 1 out of 4 lesbian relationships?
lesbian domestic violence often includes lesbian rape?
lesbian rape is almost always unreported?"
Lesbian domestic violence
http://lesbianlife.about.com/od/lesbianhealth...
"30% of LGBT couples experience domestic violence"
"The military is not exempt from theses statistics;"

Calm down Kimmy. I don't think you meant exempt as your links aren't about the military. Some people are violent. Sexual orientation isn't a factor. Get some new material.

One out of every three women in the US will be the victim of domestic violence. The lesbians are a bit off their game.
http://domesticviolencestatistics.org/

Almost 1 out of 5 teenage girls is threatened with violence or self harm by their boy friend when they try to break up with them.
http:
//domesticviolencestatistics.o rg
/domestic-violence-statistics/

Just a helpful tip for you, some links get cropped by topix if they're too long. Hit return after the http bit and in the middle of them so we can cut & paste 'em into a new window with the greatest of ease.

Since: Mar 11

Anaheim, CA

#163150 Oct 14, 2012
If people from the same sex get married, i got no problem with that
http://www.wmupholstery.com
Torqued

Covina, CA

#163151 Oct 14, 2012
Republican an teas baggers are like chankers on the end of your dream.
jacques renault

Justice, IL

#163153 Oct 14, 2012
NorCal Native wrote:
<quoted text>
Your source is about as reliable as World Nut Daily or Lifesitenews......here's what it says in the about us:
No, it’s a real news organization owned by a church – The First Church of Christ, Scientist, in Boston, Mass., USA.
I'd rather you provide a credible news source......thanks!!!
you don't know that is a credible news source?
jacques renault

Justice, IL

#163154 Oct 14, 2012
Winston, the homosexual leader, AC 360 or whatever, just interviewed James Bond on 60 Minutes and tried to learn how to shoot a gun

I'm going to be laughing all week about what I just saw
Winston Smith

Silver Spring, MD

#163155 Oct 14, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you see the links I posted?
Maybe you were one who judged the Huffington Post article?
Did you see that gay assaults (no clear indication yet of lesbian assaults) are three times the percentage they represent in society? Not a good sign for DADT is it.
Just curious. At what rate of sexual assault would you suggest we repeal gays serving?
It says nothing about DADT. That has been repealed for a year now. The trend you're pointing out goes back more than one year. According to one of your links the overall average in our military is about 2 per 1000 soldiers. 0.2%. In colleges move the decimal to the right one spot and multiply by 1.5 to 2.5. Are you suggesting we have separate learning facilities for men and women too, or should we just exclude women from higher learning?

ONCE AGAIN you fail at showing a cause and effect relationship between women getting raped and what you claim repealing DADT will cause (and hasn't as of yet).
ShysterWynn

Covina, CA

#163156 Oct 14, 2012
Yet ANOTHER big mouth so called businessman who votes for the "elitist party," Republicans.

This fools nose is growing during this interview. A gambler who fleeces people all the while claiming to be Mother Theresa in drag.

Starting to look pretty old there Wynn. Too bad.

No fool like a crook old fool.
Winston Smith

Silver Spring, MD

#163157 Oct 14, 2012
jacques renault wrote:
Winston, the homosexual leader, AC 360 or whatever, just interviewed James Bond on 60 Minutes and tried to learn how to shoot a gun
I'm going to be laughing all week about what I just saw
"Then, she worked to get approval from the movie studio to put Anderson in Bond's Aston Martin. When she had finally convinced them to allow it and had sorted out the insurance paperwork, Anderson broke the news: He can only drive an automatic."

Put down the crack pipe, jacquesass. Out of the three trucks and one car I own, only one is an automatic. Used 2008 F350s are hard to come by with a manual transmission. You're caught out in yet another dumb comment/assumption.
Winston Smith

Owings Mills, MD

#163158 Oct 14, 2012
A few of you folks might want to look at this:

http://zapatopi.net/afdb/build.html

You can thank me later for guiding you to self preservation from the gay menace.
Boycott Marriott

Covina, CA

#163159 Oct 14, 2012
John Willard “Bill” Marriott Jr.— a Willard Mitt Romney contemporary, fellow Mormon scion and, along with his brother, a donor of more than $1 million to the Republican Tea Baggers efforts.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#163160 Oct 14, 2012
Winston Smith wrote:
<quoted text>
It says nothing about DADT. That has been repealed for a year now. The trend you're pointing out goes back more than one year. According to one of your links the overall average in our military is about 2 per 1000 soldiers. 0.2%. In colleges move the decimal to the right one spot and multiply by 1.5 to 2.5. Are you suggesting we have separate learning facilities for men and women too, or should we just exclude women from higher learning?
ONCE AGAIN you fail at showing a cause and effect relationship between women getting raped and what you claim repealing DADT will cause (and hasn't as of yet).
From the article;

"The now-benighted concept of "don't ask, don't tell" still holds true in the case of military sexual assault: Due to a climate of impunity and retaliation, many survivors suffer in silence."

Having pointed out your mistake, you also bring up the politically correct denial. It does slip by though, once again with the noting that 14% of reported rapes are males.

You also support that denial by seeking to divert from that by distorting the fact that gay rapes account for 14% of reported rapes. A much higher percentage per homosexual orientation than heterosexual.

You also neglect to note the indication in the other article that they expect that percentage to increase with the repeal of DADT.

The bottom line is this; The whole integration of diversity in the military has opened a Pandora's Box. Something gays denied would happen. Something gays also deny will happen with calling gay unions 'marriage'.

Interestingly, in spite to your gay twirl fantasy clearly disintegrating, you still try to dumb down your denial.

Look at where this discussion has progressed here just today. Mocking disdain about my warning of any problem being present to discounting a clear and present danger.

A very inconvenient truth, isn't it?
LYIN AYN RYAN

Anderson, CA

#163161 Oct 14, 2012
NorCal Native wrote:
<quoted text>
Your source is about as reliable as World Nut Daily or Lifesitenews......here's what it says in the about us:
No, it’s a real news organization owned by a church – The First Church of Christ, Scientist, in Boston, Mass., USA.
I'd rather you provide a credible news source......thanks!!!
isnt that alwys the case??

it is like these bigots wont listen to anyone but other bigots!!

mabey because they are bigoted.
LYIN AYN RYAN

Anderson, CA

#163163 Oct 14, 2012
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
Go ahead and play the fool.
But posting your asshat views on politics which are in no way connected to gay marriage in a forum based on just that is not only off topic but ignorant.
No different than if you were to walk into Baskin Robbins and advise you wanted your burger cooked medium you idiot.
FYI.
this is about when I ask you what your real point is??

because once you make it??

and I dont repond??

here is a clue??? it was probably off topic .....

do you have anyhting useful to add to the debate??

no??

that is like walking into a resturant and using the facilities, but only ordering a glass of ice water.
LYIN AYN RYAN

Anderson, CA

#163164 Oct 14, 2012
Winston Smith wrote:
<quoted text>
"The military is not exempt from theses statistics;"
Calm down Kimmy. I don't think you meant exempt as your links aren't about the military. Some people are violent. Sexual orientation isn't a factor. Get some new material.
One out of every three women in the US will be the victim of domestic violence. The lesbians are a bit off their game.
http://domesticviolencestatistics.org/
Almost 1 out of 5 teenage girls is threatened with violence or self harm by their boy friend when they try to break up with them.
http:
//domesticviolencestatistics.o rg
/domestic-violence-statistics/
Just a helpful tip for you, some links get cropped by topix if they're too long. Hit return after the http bit and in the middle of them so we can cut & paste 'em into a new window with the greatest of ease.
how dare ou throw real information at a tea bagger.

they only process certain types of information.
LYIN AYN RYAN

Anderson, CA

#163165 Oct 14, 2012
Winston Smith wrote:
A few of you folks might want to look at this:
http://zapatopi.net/afdb/build.html
You can thank me later for guiding you to self preservation from the gay menace.
cute!! the T-baggers use those to deflect any real knowledge from getting in to their heads....

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#163166 Oct 14, 2012
NorCal Native wrote:
<quoted text>
Your source is about as reliable as World Nut Daily or Lifesitenews......here's what it says in the about us:
No, it’s a real news organization owned by a church – The First Church of Christ, Scientist, in Boston, Mass., USA.
I'd rather you provide a credible news source......thanks!!!
LYIN AYN RYAN wrote:
<quoted text>
isnt that alwys the case??
it is like these bigots wont listen to anyone but other bigots!!
mabey because they are bigoted.
I posted a variety of sources. They all support each other.

Another inconvenient truth, isn't it?

Now who is the ignorant bigots?

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