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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Winston Smith

United States

#163188 Oct 14, 2012
KiMare wrote:
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From the article;
"The now-benighted concept of "don't ask, don't tell" still holds true in the case of military sexual assault: Due to a climate of impunity and retaliation, many survivors suffer in silence."
Having pointed out your mistake, you also bring up the politically correct denial. It does slip by though, once again with the noting that 14% of reported rapes are males.
You also support that denial by seeking to divert from that by distorting the fact that gay rapes account for 14% of reported rapes. A much higher percentage per homosexual orientation than heterosexual.
You also neglect to note the indication in the other article that they expect that percentage to increase with the repeal of DADT.
The bottom line is this; The whole integration of diversity in the military has opened a Pandora's Box. Something gays denied would happen. Something gays also deny will happen with calling gay unions 'marriage'.
Interestingly, in spite to your gay twirl fantasy clearly disintegrating, you still try to dumb down your denial.
Look at where this discussion has progressed here just today. Mocking disdain about my warning of any problem being present to discounting a clear and present danger.
A very inconvenient truth, isn't it?
Look minimind, you really are stretching the truth. Silence has been the norm on sexual assault for a very long time. Your ridiculous misinterpretation of statistics is amusing. You can't even get your numbers straight. I'm not certain which link you're quoting, but the Christian Science Monitor states that women account for 95% of the victims in rapes occuring in the military. That means 5% are men. That doesn't mean anything about the sexual orientation of the victim or the perp. I don't know where you came up with the 14% figure. I'm assuming that was either a typo (unlikely) or you have a problem with interpeting the articles. It is also worth noting that a man raping another man doesn't mean that either of them are gay.

The warning of an increase is nothing short of hysteria. As the study I linked to indicates, nothing bad has happened in the last year.

I also love your misinterpretation of this:

While women comprise 14 percent of the Army ranks, they account for 95 percent of all sex crime victims.
christianSciMon wrote:
The study warns that reports of crimes such as forcible sodomy may increase among males in the coming year with the repeal of the law that barred openly gay troops from serving in the military.“Now victims may be more likely to report sexual offenses in the absence of the former Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy,” since troops no longer have to fear being removed from the military if it is discovered that they are gay.
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>You also neglect to note the indication in the other article that they expect that percentage to increase with the repeal of DADT.
An increase in the number of reports because there is less fear of retaliation doesn't equate to more occurences. Just a higher percentage of them reported. Your interpretation of the statement doesn't hold water. You have an amazing ability to see things that aren't there. Don't worry, I expect you to "twirl" the facts to suit your fears.
LYIN AYN RYAN

Anderson, CA

#163189 Oct 14, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
You mean like they have been vetting the Benghazi story?
Smirk.
so now you are off to bengazi like the rest of the right winged sheep??

that one has been spent and spent again...like the whole gas prices talking point, earlier this year....

not one of us on this side takes ANY OF YOU seriously with your feined outrage!!

it is soooooo transparent.

what about the other hot spot issues in the middle east/??

somehow I dont think youll be offereing me any of romneys positions on those areas.......and WHAT is romneys position On libya??

do you even know??

i didnt think so.
LYIN AYN RYAN

Anderson, CA

#163190 Oct 14, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>If you notice he never posts a link of any kind to back himself up, he just writes what he thinks is right.
since you guys dont really deal in real facts?? from the real world??(the whole bengazi thing is just the primest example of right wing political BS myopia....)) I am not going to hold your hand and do your research FOR you...

..that would make you kinda dependant(at least by your philosophy, which on this point I agree!!)

Ive already done my homework.....Id say get on your google machine,??? but I know you have no interest in any information out side the rightwing talk bubble/....therefore, I dont bother..

do your own research...
Boycott Marriott

Glendora, CA

#163191 Oct 14, 2012
Don't even use a credit card at any Marriott hotels motels or flea bag spots where Republican an tea baggers sleep.
LYIN AYN RYAN

Anderson, CA

#163192 Oct 14, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Dan: are you in Japan now? I don't think this fool from anderson, ca should get in a pissing contest with you if he knows what is best for him. He is no contest for you. But seems to get off on anyone responding to him. When are you coming back to sac?
rude dan from japan??

he is the ice cream man!!

i havnt yet found out any of his veiws, which is crucial for a debate.....i dont have "pissing contests" I have debates with people who bring real information to the thread...

you were doing Ok there on the other treads riccard, dont dispair..

Ive had endless right wingers insult me up and down because they READ one of my informative posts....I never insulted them to begin with(like dan) they were just offended by my mere presense I guess.

but the prerequisite for having a debate is presenting information.

you guys dont really LIKE doing that..

I try and try to get ONE of you, to tell the world where romney stands??/ NO ONE from your side wants to talk about your nominee?? how telling is that?

im still waiting for someone to present a sane arguement over a bread and butter issue, like taxes.
LYIN AYN RYAN

Anderson, CA

#163193 Oct 14, 2012
akpilot wrote:
<quoted text>
Seriously, learn how to spell and basic grammar or send me the money for the aspirin I require after reading your nonsense.
?????
Boycott Marriott

Glendora, CA

#163194 Oct 14, 2012
Did anyone who watched the presidential and vice presidential debates wonder why there is no cooperation in Washington between the two parties?

The filthy Republican tea baggers, Willard MItt Romney and Paul D. Ryan were very open in their utter disdain for the President of United States of America the the V.P. Mr. Biden.

The Republican pig, Willard Mitt Romney showed that with his smirking and condescending attitude in his debate.

Willard MItt Romney was rude and a bully in his debate, constantly interrupting The President of the USA, and when he wasn't interrupting or speaking over him he was smirking, smiling, laughing, guffawing and making other rude noises.

Once again the filth that calls it's self Republican an tea baggers have got to go!

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#163195 Oct 14, 2012
R Hudson wrote:
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Please clearly list where i made any racist statement.
You called me a monkey.
Trying to deny it?

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#163196 Oct 14, 2012
R Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
A: Another false claim by Chongo. I am no christian, sir.
B: You are too stupid to grasp that, but I have set you straight, lol you....straight.....lol.....ch ortle.
C: The label "Chongo" expresses my belief that you have the intelligence of an ape. Report that, Chongo.
Humans are apes, Dumbo.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#163197 Oct 14, 2012
R Hudson wrote:
I found a picture of ross-no-hope: http://media.photobucket.com/image/crackhead/...
I found a picture of you:
http://www.topix.com/member/profile/rhudson

Well, at least you don't have to dress up for Halloween.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#163198 Oct 14, 2012
And still, not a single good argument against gay marriage. Come on, this is a simple matter of equal rights.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#163199 Oct 14, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you see the links I posted?
Maybe you were one who judged the Huffington Post article?
Did you see that gay assaults (no clear indication yet of lesbian assaults) are three times the percentage they represent in society? Not a good sign for DADT is it.
Just curious. At what rate of sexual assault would you suggest we repeal gays serving?
You're just full of BS.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#163200 Oct 14, 2012
jacques renault wrote:
Winston, the homosexual leader, AC 360 or whatever, just interviewed James Bond on 60 Minutes and tried to learn how to shoot a gun
I'm going to be laughing all week about what I just saw
Daydreaming about Anderson all week? Thinking about him holding his gun?

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#163202 Oct 14, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
From the article;
"The now-benighted concept of "don't ask, don't tell" still holds true in the case of military sexual assault: Due to a climate of impunity and retaliation, many survivors suffer in silence."
Having pointed out your mistake, you also bring up the politically correct denial. It does slip by though, once again with the noting that 14% of reported rapes are males.
You also support that denial by seeking to divert from that by distorting the fact that gay rapes account for 14% of reported rapes. A much higher percentage per homosexual orientation than heterosexual.
You really are stupid. What makes you think the men doing the raping of other men are all gay? Rape isn't a version of consensual sex. It's power trip.
KiMare wrote:
You also neglect to note the indication in the other article that they expect that percentage to increase with the repeal of DADT.
Did they set a date?
KiMare wrote:
The bottom line is this; The whole integration of diversity in the military has opened a Pandora's Box. Something gays denied would happen.
BS. Some people "expecting" something isn't a Pandora's Box.
KiMare wrote:
Something gays also deny will happen with calling gay unions 'marriage'.
What could happen? What has happened in places were gay marriage is recognized?
KiMare wrote:
Interestingly, in spite to your gay twirl fantasy clearly disintegrating, you still try to dumb down your denial.
Look at where this discussion has progressed here just today. Mocking disdain about my warning of any problem being present to discounting a clear and present danger.
A very inconvenient truth, isn't it?
What truth?

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#163203 Oct 15, 2012
Scooby Doo wrote:
I am uphauled that Prosition 8 was overturned when it was voted on in Nov. 2008 and it passed by 7 million Californians!!! What is the point of voting for anything if it is going to be so disregarded. Why vote??? The Judge has overstepped and done California a huge disservice. Fire that judge immediately!
Don't vote! We'd be better off if homophobes like you just stayed home. Then learn about the Constitution. It promises all citizens equal protection under the law. Prop H8 violates that. Since it does, it's the job to the judiciary (look up the term) to get rid of the law. Ever wonder why we have 3 branches of government, checks and balances, and just don't vote on everything?
LYIN AYN RYAN

Anderson, CA

#163204 Oct 15, 2012
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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You really are stupid. What makes you think the men doing the raping of other men are all gay? Rape isn't a version of consensual sex. It's power trip.
<quoted text>
Did they set a date?
<quoted text>
BS. Some people "expecting" something isn't a Pandora's Box.
<quoted text>
What could happen? What has happened in places were gay marriage is recognized?
<quoted text>
What truth?
you 're trying to teach chemistry to a chimp.
Dan

Fukuoka, Japan

#163205 Oct 15, 2012
LYIN AYN RYAN wrote:
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this is about when I ask you what your real point is??
because once you make it??
and I dont repond??
here is a clue??? it was probably off topic .....
do you have anyhting useful to add to the debate??
no??
that is like walking into a resturant and using the facilities, but only ordering a glass of ice water.
Well unlike you it's on the topic idiot.

I believe gays should be allowed to marry nationwide given there is no inherent harm in it and that it involves itself with a basic liberty they as Americans should possess.

So please fuckwad....don't start talking about the price of watermelons in India or how thermal changes will affect dress codes in China...stick to the subject at hand.
LYIN AYN RYAN

Anderson, CA

#163206 Oct 15, 2012
Dan wrote:
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Well unlike you it's on the topic idiot.
I believe gays should be allowed to marry nationwide given there is no inherent harm in it and that it involves itself with a basic liberty they as Americans should possess.
So please fuckwad....don't start talking about the price of watermelons in India or how thermal changes will affect dress codes in China...stick to the subject at hand.
excellent, glad to know it!!

now can you do something about the rudeness?

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#163207 Oct 15, 2012
LYIN AYN RYAN wrote:
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excellent, glad to know it!!
now can you do something about the rudeness?
Once you pull your head out of your ass then you can expect the politeness given any reasonable person should expect.

LOL!!
Michael Clark Duncan

Toronto, Canada

#163210 Oct 15, 2012
Fry Zimmerman wrote:
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Once you pull your head out of your ass then you can expect the politeness given any reasonable person should expect.
LOL!!
You first! LOL

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