Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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The only issue/concern I see with the tossing of DADT is the effect it will have on housing.
We know that homosexuals have served honorably for, well, forever. So one is hard pressed to find any reason why one should be allowed to serve openly.
The only part which concerned me was the housing of troops. In Basic there are many troops housed in open bays together. In that situation we separate male from female for obvious reasons. We do the same in the dormitories and tents.
This was simple when gender was the only issue, as sexual orientation was assumed- albeit foolishly. The answer isn't as simple when we are dealing with homosexuality. How should they be segregated? Or should they?
I don't really know the answer to this question, and one could say since there have been no issues, publicly at least, that it is a non-issue. But I am not so sure that the lack of issues doesn't have more to do with homosexuals self-employing their own DADT policy?
But I do agree that sexual harassment occurs in both the heterosexual and homosexual community, and is not an argument either for or against this policy. But it did seem simpler when the answer was simply the separation of the sexes, which could be employed to at least attempt to quell and head off the issue before it occurred.
In my opinion, there is no need for separate berthing just because someone is Gay or Lesbian......that would be the same thing as when we separated troops based solely on skin color.

Gay men and straight men should be grown-up enough to handle the situation, besides.....it's not like Gay men are attracted or will hit on straight men and if straight men think they will, well, they shouldn't flatter themselves!!!

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So after he finally got my pants off, he said "Oh my God ! You aint stickin that huge thing in me !" And then he left.

And that ended our date.

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LYIN AYN RYAN wrote:
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eventually when gay rights are actaully recognized by the federal government, they will add it to the constiution...
but many states will join those that have already made the plunge. like mass and vt.
it is great to see barney frank getting married as he retires from a long career of public service.
dont fight it, it is just natural for people to be different..
I beg you show tolerance.
no?
then enjoy irrelevancy, as those who just want to be treated the same as you, fight for(and gain) their rights!!
it has happened before, and equality will happen again..
why do you fools on the right, have to be on the wrong side of history all the time....
just look at all the progress on gay rights in the past 20 years!
huge!!
same with medicinal marijuana.
attitudes are changing....
dont be left behind!
There is no such thing as gay 'marriage'.

It is a simple denial of reality,

A foolish attempt to impose an imposter relationship on the single and only birthplace of every single other type of relationship.

Attitudes change for right and wrong reasons and there will always be idiots.

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In my opinion, there is no need for separate berthing just because someone is Gay or Lesbian......that would be the same thing as when we separated troops based solely on skin color.
Gay men and straight men should be grown-up enough to handle the situation, besides.....it's not like Gay men are attracted or will hit on straight men and if straight men think they will, well, they shouldn't flatter themselves!!!
So you are saying that homosexuals don't have the same degree of sexual attraction that heterosexuals do? So it is fair that heterosexuals are segregated, but okay for homosexuals to not be?

You are saying that there is no risk of rape by homosexuals (in a overtly authoritarian setting), like the current problem in the military with heterosexual rape?

In my opinion, you are a lying idiot. Your gay twirl puts our nation and military at risk.

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So you are saying that homosexuals don't have the same degree of sexual attraction that heterosexuals do? So it is fair that heterosexuals are segregated, but okay for homosexuals to not be?
You are saying that there is no risk of rape by homosexuals (in a overtly authoritarian setting), like the current problem in the military with heterosexual rape?
In my opinion, you are a lying idiot. Your gay twirl puts our nation and military at risk.
It's fair that the genders are segregated, if that was what you were getting at!!!

Did my post mention rape at all? I don't believe it did!!!

I know.....everyone who makes a post that you don't like makes it some gay twist or twirl.....what a true idiot you are!!!

Gays and Lesbians DON'T put our Nation or our Military at Risk.......but people like you should be considered a threat to National Security!!!

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Jeeeesuuus christ!!! Don't you ever git tired of the damned sock routine??

WTF!!!
LIE Buster
Oscar Wilde 1->
Jedi 1->
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Martin T >
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Chunky
Doctor 1->
Judge Monitor >
Gate Keeper 1->
Yadda Yadda Yadda Yadda Yadda???

Like I said kid-
Grow ta hell up!!!

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Jeeeesuuus christ!!! Don't you ever git tired of the damned sock routine??
WTF!!!
LIE Buster
Oscar Wilde 1->
Jedi 1->
mirror mirror
Martin T >
"Martina" T>
Chunky
Doctor 1->
Judge Monitor >
Gate Keeper 1->
Yadda Yadda Yadda Yadda Yadda???
Like I said kid-
Grow ta hell up!!!
You ask to much of that particular poster......lol:-)

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You ask to much of that particular poster......lol:-)
This guy is a nut case!
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@ Martina Navratilover

This is a guy by the way.


You should have never posted under my handle, let alone on multiple threads.
You should have never changed my posts on those threads.
I don't do it to anyone else, and I won't stand for anyone doing it to me.
It is against TOS rules for obvious reasons.

You have crossed the line, and you will suffer the consequences.

YOU did it-not me.

You NEVER learn

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This guy is a nut case!
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@ Martina Navratilover
This is a guy by the way.
You should have never posted under my handle, let alone on multiple threads.
You should have never changed my posts on those threads.
I don't do it to anyone else, and I won't stand for anyone doing it to me.
It is against TOS rules for obvious reasons.
You have crossed the line, and you will suffer the consequences.
YOU did it-not me.
You NEVER learn
I know......sad and pathetic that one!!!

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It's fair that the genders are segregated, if that was what you were getting at!!!
Did my post mention rape at all? I don't believe it did!!!
I know.....everyone who makes a post that you don't like makes it some gay twist or twirl.....what a true idiot you are!!!
Gays and Lesbians DON'T put our Nation or our Military at Risk.......but people like you should be considered a threat to National Security!!!
Honey, go back and read what I wrote slowly. Think about it before you respond. Then think about again before you respond.

Here is some help;

-Genders are separated because of orientation.

-You are right, you didn't mention rape. You sanitized the issue by talking about 'gays and straights behaving'. My point is they don't and are not. There are already cases where gays in authority have violated their position. Or, maybe you missed the Navy vet politician who talked about 'pillow fights' with his subordinates BEFORE the repeal of DADT! Not to mention the horrendous problem with heterosexual rape occurring right now because of the mix of heterosexuals in the military setting.

The distinction of how the female POW was dealt at the beginning of the war with Iraq and male POW's since is a example of unintended and unplanned consequences that these idiotic decisions incur.

Your blissful and deliberate ignorance is putting the US at risk and makes you a traitor.

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Honey, go back and read what I wrote slowly. Think about it before you respond. Then think about again before you respond.
Here is some help;
-Genders are separated because of orientation.
-You are right, you didn't mention rape. You sanitized the issue by talking about 'gays and straights behaving'. My point is they don't and are not. There are already cases where gays in authority have violated their position. Or, maybe you missed the Navy vet politician who talked about 'pillow fights' with his subordinates BEFORE the repeal of DADT! Not to mention the horrendous problem with heterosexual rape occurring right now because of the mix of heterosexuals in the military setting.
The distinction of how the female POW was dealt at the beginning of the war with Iraq and male POW's since is a example of unintended and unplanned consequences that these idiotic decisions incur.
Your blissful and deliberate ignorance is putting the US at risk and makes you a traitor.
Genders are separated STRICTLY because of the physical difference......nothing to do with their sexual orientation!!!

They actually do and can behave........and I was HARDLY sanitizing anything......as for your comment about Gays in authority violating their position......that has been happening by males in authority towards women for over 40 years......so, please don't make it sound as one is worse than the other.....both are equally wrong!!!
You have some proof to back up this story that was told, right?

Have you served? or are you just talking BS out of your azz?
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So you are saying that homosexuals don't have the same degree of sexual attraction that heterosexuals do? So it is fair that heterosexuals are segregated, but okay for homosexuals to not be?
You are saying that there is no risk of rape by homosexuals (in a overtly authoritarian setting), like the current problem in the military with heterosexual rape?
In my opinion, you are a lying idiot. Your gay twirl puts our nation and military at risk.
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There is no such thing as gay 'marriage'.
It is a simple denial of reality,
A foolish attempt to impose an imposter relationship on the single and only birthplace of every single other type of relationship.
Attitudes change for right and wrong reasons and there will always be idiots.
Ive seen two gay guys together many times......

it doesnt seem like they are in denial to me ...

by being together I dont think they are "imposing" anything on you.

try to explain that one a little better(but ill bet you cannot)

yes there will always be idiots...

those who cant roll with the changes (because of phony religious values) are the first to come to mind.

and from another lame post of yours??

people in power abusing their power??

ive never heard of that happening before(sarc)
I cant believe a gay guy was the first to abuse his power(sarc)

you sound a little sheltered.
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KiMare wrote:
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Honey, go back and read what I wrote slowly. Think about it before you respond. Then think about again before you respond.
Here is some help;
-Genders are separated because of orientation.
-You are right, you didn't mention rape. You sanitized the issue by talking about 'gays and straights behaving'. My point is they don't and are not. There are already cases where gays in authority have violated their position. Or, maybe you missed the Navy vet politician who talked about 'pillow fights' with his subordinates BEFORE the repeal of DADT! Not to mention the horrendous problem with heterosexual rape occurring right now because of the mix of heterosexuals in the military setting.
The distinction of how the female POW was dealt at the beginning of the war with Iraq and male POW's since is a example of unintended and unplanned consequences that these idiotic decisions incur.
Your blissful and deliberate ignorance is putting the US at risk and makes you a traitor.
so now we're traitors because we want parity for those who serve.??
you need to pull yow head outa yow azzz..

Im sure id cringe to hear any more of your arcane values.
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The only issue/concern I see with the tossing of DADT is the effect it will have on housing.
We know that homosexuals have served honorably for, well, forever. So one is hard pressed to find any reason why one should be allowed to serve openly.
The only part which concerned me was the housing of troops. In Basic there are many troops housed in open bays together. In that situation we separate male from female for obvious reasons. We do the same in the dormitories and tents.
This was simple when gender was the only issue, as sexual orientation was assumed- albeit foolishly. The answer isn't as simple when we are dealing with homosexuality. How should they be segregated? Or should they?
I don't really know the answer to this question, and one could say since there have been no issues, publicly at least, that it is a non-issue. But I am not so sure that the lack of issues doesn't have more to do with homosexuals self-employing their own DADT policy?
But I do agree that sexual harassment occurs in both the heterosexual and homosexual community, and is not an argument either for or against this policy. But it did seem simpler when the answer was simply the separation of the sexes, which could be employed to at least attempt to quell and head off the issue before it occurred.
wow you finally hit the nail on the head!!

since we havnt heard of any instances of problems from gay soldiers bunking with straight soldiers??

you can pretty much chalk it up to a "nontroversy"....(li ke the nyc mosque)...

if I had a dollar for every thing that rightwing thought was gonna end up being a huge issue(but wasnt) id be ready to retire.

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LYIN AYN RYAN wrote:
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theyll never understand what civil rights are.
I loved michael in the green mile and "the island"
I was very sorry to see him go.
my condolences
You say "theyll never understand what civil rights are". Well help us out then. Are you claiming it's not against civil rights to murder our citizens in Benghazi but it is to deny someone gay marriage?

Is that what you're saying toots?

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I actually am very sorry....
but im not buying YOU freaks on the right being sorry about an embassy that wouldnt have been much of a blip on the radar(esp for you isolationists) if it werrnt for an election being less than a month away...
im sure you were rooting and cheering as the bushites invaded IRAQ.
where was your simpathy for the powerless then??
same deal with BUsh';s invasion of afghanistan...
im sure you were crying rivers(not)
"On the right" So you have my politics all figured out? Based on what toots?

Geez lady you're barely literate. It makes your posts look even dumber than they are.
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You say "theyll never understand what civil rights are". Well help us out then. Are you claiming it's not against civil rights to murder our citizens in Benghazi but it is to deny someone gay marriage?
Is that what you're saying toots?
well on this particular issue, mike, civil rights are all that matter......we dont veiw the lgbts issue(s) as a moral issue, but a civil rights issue....

this is what iwas getting at, first the right needs to drop the moral thing!! because it is a religious veiw, and our founding fathers??(whether you wanted them to or not) didnt want the church represented in congress....

but here we are, 236 later??

one side of the aisle is unduely influence by religion...

and with regards to libya?? im very sorry for those families??

but you didnt answer my question did you??

what was your mood during shock and awe?? when millions of iraqs were being terrorized and (some)killed??

bush started an un-needed, fabricated war, that left iraq in civil war.

the death toll is disputed, but if you averaged out the estimates of iraq's killed??

it is around 100000 dead.

why did we need to go to iraq?? WMD?? NON existant!

when you key in on that bengazi incident just weeks before an election??

while showing only war monger bluster, during offensive moves by the Us miltary???(like chanting usa, usa, as innocent civy's die?)
no one(with half a brain) can take you seriously.

just sayin
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"On the right" So you have my politics all figured out? Based on what toots?
Geez lady you're barely literate. It makes your posts look even dumber than they are.
I like how you assume im female, because I explain things a little more than you do....

you should try to explain your foriegn policy veiws if you are going to bluster about libya here...

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LYIN AYN RYAN wrote:
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I like how you assume im female, because I explain things a little more than you do....
you should try to explain your foriegn policy veiws if you are going to bluster about libya here...
I assume someone with the name "Lyin Ayn Ryan" is female, silly me.

You assume you know all about my politics based on my sympathy for American citizens killed in Libya. That's dumb.

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