Five Pacific Grove High students injured when stolen car runs o...

Five Pacific Grove teenagers were injured, three of them seriously, after the stolen car they were riding in ran off the road in Skyline Forest early Sunday morning, police reported. Full Story
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PG Resident

Monterey, CA

#258 Apr 12, 2010
She is unfortunate. It is a sad and terrible thing, but I don't think she had any business looking for handouts because she got into a car with a drunk driver. This day and age we are drilled from the moment you are aware (if you have good parenting) that you ALWAYS wear your seatbelt and you don't get into a car with a drunk driver. She, and the people she got into the car with, decided they were going to endanger themselves and EVERYONE ELSE on the road that night with their STUPID decisions. It is lucky they didn't hurt anyone else, and lucky that they are all here today. But what makes her a victim in this situation? The only thing she is a victim of is poor decision making. I though it was poor taste to set up a booth in our home-town celebration asking for us to empty our pockets for a girl that got drunk and got into a car.
Monkey see mokey do

Salinas, CA

#259 Apr 12, 2010
sunnycali, it really does not matter if someone uses their real name or not. What matters is that this is a public forumn and people are able to voice their opinions here. You do not have to agree or like it, you do have to accept it though. It is called freedom of speech. Although it is obvious you are unable to be objective or open minded, you too are allowed the freedom to post your opinions. Please remember that is all they are..opinions. No one know the facts except the kids in the car and Veloz who owned the stolen car. Some may be good kids who made a bad choice but lets face it..none of them are steller kids with respect for their parents or the laws. If they were, they would not have been out at 330am,breaking curfew and drinking. This does not mean they don't love their parents nor does it mean they are not sorry. It means, they either have no respect for their parents rules or they knew they could get a way with it..either way..it is very sad. Both kids & parents need to accept responsibility here. The community is owed an apology from all involved and excuses need to be stopped. It is horrible what happened. Thank God they did not kill themselves or others.But events and parties and treating them like hero's sends the WRONG message.Obviously, people are outraged and to use their name instead of a moniker would only cause them to be attacked by posters such as yourself who simply cannot fathom the idea of holding these children & their parents responsible for the accident that took place as a direct cause of their actions. This affected an entire county!Do you know how much money this cost the taxpayers?? Do you have any idea how much a medi-flight costs?? Do you know at least one of these kids had NO insurance? That means Tax payers Money was spent. Why..because 5 kids broke the law drinking and piled into a car to drive home! It was obviously dangerous & stupid and worst of all...it could have been AVOIDED!!!The parents & kids lives are changed forever.
Boop

Salinas, CA

#260 Apr 12, 2010
According to one social web-site,her father was very proud of the fact that the booth was set up at Good ol Days and that money was donated.This is a backwards situation. I am sad for all involved but in no way sympathetic for anyone choosing to drink while underage or get into a car with a drunk driver.She is old enough to know better. They all were.
PG Resident said it best... it is drilled into us from a very early age and all through High school..don't drink and drive & wear a seatbelt.
We pray she recovers. We pray they all do.
Salinas Mom

Salinas, CA

#261 Apr 12, 2010
She was NOT a victim. No one else did this to her. She made a choice. A bad choice. There are no victims here.Only lucky to be alive,young,soon to be adults who have learned a lesson in a very harsh way.

Since: Sep 09

Carmel Valley, CA

#262 Apr 12, 2010
This post is very odd following your other post. It seems that they were written by two different people - completely.

First - no where have I ever said that people shouldn't be able to voice their opinions or to practice free speech. What I did say was that public forum in which people are anonymous tend to bring out the worst in some people. Anonymity allows one to say things that one wouldn't say if one were identified.

Second - I rebutted a statement (or statements) in which another poster called Chelsie an idiot. Do YOU think it's appropriate to call people names? I don't.

Third - since all of us except the 5 people involved in the accident have absolutely no idea what actually occurred then I have to assume that some of what is being said might or might NOT be correct. Right? For instance, I have no idea whether anyone was drinking other than (allegedly) the driver. You make the statement that none of the teens in the car were "stellar kid" yet you have no corroborating evidence.

Fourth - since no one knows what the parents of these teens knew about their children's whereabouts the morning of the accident, then no one knows whether the parents have any responsibility in the matter.

Fifth - it sounds like you know exactly how much this incident affected the entire county. Could you please provide those statistics plus the exact costs incurred? I'd be interested in seeing them.
Monkey see mokey do wrote:
sunnycali, it really does not matter if someone uses their real name or not. What matters is that this is a public forumn and people are able to voice their opinions here. You do not have to agree or like it, you do have to accept it though. It is called freedom of speech. Although it is obvious you are unable to be objective or open minded, you too are allowed the freedom to post your opinions. Please remember that is all they are..opinions. No one know the facts except the kids in the car and Veloz who owned the stolen car. Some may be good kids who made a bad choice but lets face it..none of them are steller kids with respect for their parents or the laws. If they were, they would not have been out at 330am,breaking curfew and drinking. This does not mean they don't love their parents nor does it mean they are not sorry. It means, they either have no respect for their parents rules or they knew they could get a way with it..either way..it is very sad. Both kids & parents need to accept responsibility here. The community is owed an apology from all involved and excuses need to be stopped. It is horrible what happened. Thank God they did not kill themselves or others.But events and parties and treating them like hero's sends the WRONG message.Obviously, people are outraged and to use their name instead of a moniker would only cause them to be attacked by posters such as yourself who simply cannot fathom the idea of holding these children & their parents responsible for the accident that took place as a direct cause of their actions. This affected an entire county!Do you know how much money this cost the taxpayers?? Do you have any idea how much a medi-flight costs?? Do you know at least one of these kids had NO insurance? That means Tax payers Money was spent. Why..because 5 kids broke the law drinking and piled into a car to drive home! It was obviously dangerous & stupid and worst of all...it could have been AVOIDED!!!The parents & kids lives are changed forever.

Since: Sep 09

Carmel Valley, CA

#263 Apr 12, 2010
Boop wrote:
According to one social web-site,her father was very proud of the fact that the booth was set up at Good ol Days and that money was donated.This is a backwards situation. I am sad for all involved but in no way sympathetic for anyone choosing to drink while underage or get into a car with a drunk driver.She is old enough to know better. They all were.
PG Resident said it best... it is drilled into us from a very early age and all through High school..don't drink and drive & wear a seatbelt.
We pray she recovers. We pray they all do.
You know she was wearing a seatbelt, right? I am assuming (rightly or wrongly) that the fact she using a seatbelt contributed to her injuries. I guess I don't know why the seatbelt is being brought up.
Mont Guy

Salinas, CA

#264 Apr 12, 2010
sunnycali wrote:
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You know she was wearing a seatbelt, right? I am assuming (rightly or wrongly) that the fact she using a seatbelt contributed to her injuries. I guess I don't know why the seatbelt is being brought up.
It was a lap belt only. It may have contributed to what kind of injury she has, but at the same time without it she probably would have died.
Carmel Resident

Pacific Grove, CA

#265 Apr 18, 2010
Samantha wrote:
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WOW! are you serious?? you want them to apologize now for there actions. Chelsie is sitting in a hospital bed and her and her family are trying to get through this. she is lucky to be alive! yeah sure she made a bad decision and so did the other 4 teenagers in that car. all teenagers make bad decisions you guys made bad decisions when you were teens to dont act like you didnt and probably still do we are only human. you cant just automatically exspect an apology from them right away they will do it when they are ready. Chelsie and her family have enough to worry about they dont need the comunity to shove apologizing down there throats the most important thing for them is for her to heal and for all of them get through this!
You are obviously a high school student, if not a middle school student, with your misspellings..

And you are an idiot for sticking up for these kids. When you are actually an adult you will realize how dumb these decisions were and how it truly is only their own faults, them and their parents. People watch out for their pets more now a days than some people care for their children. You wouldn't let your pet out all night without knowing where it was, would you? And it is a disgrace to ask the community's whose lives were put at risk that night, too, to now ask for money to help cover her medical expenses.
PB Mom

Carmel, CA

#266 Apr 19, 2010
CHelsie is back at school, very pmuch the princess she was before the accident. Had a HUGE party thrown in her honor and doesn't exactly seem unhappy in the slightest....Gorgeous wheelchair that most disabled people would LOVE to have. I KNOW....

Sorry, no pity here. She's clearly going to be fine. There are worse things than losing the use of your legs, trust me. NO PITY.
Auntie Virgile

Monterey, CA

#267 Apr 19, 2010
Carmel Resident wrote:
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You are obviously a high school student, if not a middle school student, with your misspellings..
And you are an idiot for sticking up for these kids. When you are actually an adult you will realize how dumb these decisions were and how it truly is only their own faults, them and their parents. People watch out for their pets more now a days than some people care for their children. You wouldn't let your pet out all night without knowing where it was, would you? And it is a disgrace to ask the community's whose lives were put at risk that night, too, to now ask for money to help cover her medical expenses.
So the person that you are criticizing is obviously in high school. You can disagree and state your opinion; whatever. It's real big of you as an adult, if that's what you are, to call a child an idiot. Nice job Carmel Resident. I hope you're not a parent and don't spend any time around kids.
You are an adult calling children names. Lol, real mature! No one's asking your grumpy butt for money, so you should shut it. Pick on someone your own size bully! Speaking of disgrace, look in the mirror.
Carmel Resident

Pacific Grove, CA

#268 Apr 19, 2010
Auntie Virgile wrote:
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So the person that you are criticizing is obviously in high school. You can disagree and state your opinion; whatever. It's real big of you as an adult, if that's what you are, to call a child an idiot. Nice job Carmel Resident. I hope you're not a parent and don't spend any time around kids.
You are an adult calling children names. Lol, real mature! No one's asking your grumpy butt for money, so you should shut it. Pick on someone your own size bully! Speaking of disgrace, look in the mirror.
OK. Simply put, it is perfectly acceptable to let minors run around at all hours of the night and doing whatever they please, endangering whoever is around. And it is perfectly acceptable to let your daughter be out at 3:30 am. And their peers are so "smart" for supporting this charade.
Kaitie

Salinas, CA

#270 Aug 27, 2010
Ok Aaron does not need to go to prison i mean what the fuck why does he have to go because he crashed what if he was the one that woulda been paralyzed would she be in trouble for being in a stolen car drunk its really sad and God bless her and i pray for a awsome recovery for her but he does not need to go to prison for an accident everyone in that car is blessed to be alive an in life shit happends and it sucks and i hate it too but it happends and im sure she thinks to herself sometimes her life is ruined so ruin his too? what about the other kids in the car if 2 get punished should they be too? DONT FRIGGEN DRINK AND DRIVE OR YOU HAVE A GOOD CHANCE OF DYING its like how many people have to die from car accidents because there drunk or high or just in an accident hayley bettencourt Vanessa Forgnone,adam aries,Gen giamoncco, those are just my friends and one is my cousin so obviously shit happends but prison is a little overated in my opion and the cousin of chelsie i hope im not affending you because ive been on this website and people posted stupid ass comments too even when my cousin got in her crash people said the same shit and screw them im just saying prisons not a good place. i mean unless hes a physco but i know him sooo he dnt belong there im sorry IN MY OPION FREEDOM OF SPEECH
hey

San Diego, CA

#275 Nov 4, 2010
thanks
Bill Haverchuck

Salinas, CA

#276 Jan 5, 2011
You know what? I don't really care if they were underage or not. Drunk driving is stupid, and so is getting into a car with one. The fact that alcohol impairs your judgment is a totally invalid argument here.

Everyone involved deserved what they got.
sympathetic yet aware

Salinas, CA

#277 Nov 4, 2011
it was a personal choice she made and these are her reprocussions. arron is in jail and she is paralyzed. it is very sad yet i have to agree with the majority a few other kids got seriously injured in the accident as well but you dont see their parents making the community feel obligated to donate to their children. i do hope she will walk again. i dont agree the way this situation is being milked..chelsie still goes out and partys, even has a few drinks. if she wasnt serously injured in that accident i can guarentee you she would be doing the same things. every single person at the party knew whos car that was and it definitely wasnt aarons so why get in? expecially if you knew he was drunk. arron has a reputation of getting drunk and doing some not so smart stuff. i can tell you right now i am a teenager and i wouldnt have gotten in the car, and even if i did i could damn sure guarentee i would have gotten my ass out of the car the first time he almost crashed and walked home. she is getting babied, yes she realized she messed up but only because she is paralyzed. it is very sad but it is the truth. she is in my prayers but she definitely needs to stop playing the victim so much especially if it a reprocussion of her own actions

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