Lesbian student seeks damages for Mis...

Lesbian student seeks damages for Miss. prom flap

There are 800 comments on the Monterey County Herald story from Apr 21, 2010, titled Lesbian student seeks damages for Miss. prom flap. In it, Monterey County Herald reports that:

The lesbian teenager from Mississippi who challenged her school district's ban on same-sex prom dates is seeking unspecified monetary damages, claiming she was publicly humiliated.

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not bigotry

Gettysburg, PA

#797 Jun 15, 2010
libra_rising wrote:
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Well, I'm looking at the original Hebrew wording, of course.
So what does that "original" version say about homosexuality? Marriage?

Since: Sep 09

Location hidden

#798 Jun 15, 2010
not bigotry wrote:
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So what does that "original" version say about homosexuality? Marriage?
The original says that homosexuals are blessed by the Father in Matthew 19:12. The original says nothing about SSM. Marriage in biblical times involved ownership of women, and a man could have as many wives as he wanted to and could afford. Is this what you would like us to return to????

“I call it as I see it.”

Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#799 Jun 15, 2010
ILuvLA wrote:
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Why do you so-called "straights" always wish for God to "cure" one of his homosexuality -- and not wish the same for your excessive fornication, adultery, and greed -- among other gross sins you practice like anal and oral sex -- abortions, child abandonment, neglect, and abuse?
Incidentally, did you know that Bible beating, fundie, conservative, Christians are taking the lead over any other religious group in adultery, frivolous divorces, and multiple remarriages in this country?
Most of these are the same Bible beating Trolls who say that the sanctity of marriage must be protected against homosexual marriage. And yet really they don't honor marriage or make it sanctimonious themselves.
Not to mention some of these are the biggest closet cases, anyway.
And many of them, if they're not closet homosexuals, are pedophiles -- or their into anal and oral sex -- picking up prostitutes -- going to strip clubs -- and fetishes.
I'm sick of they hypocrisy.
When you take that 2x4 out of your own eye, then maybe then you will see clearly to extract the mere splinter in ours.
How many women have you had sex with whom you were not married to?
How many children could you possibly have out of wedlock that you are not taking care of -- who have possibly been abandoned -- and have subsequently been adopted by a gay couple?
How many times have you had oral and anal sex with your lovers?
How many times have you stole something, lied, coveted what your neighbor has, used God's name in vain -- or said or did something that was really mean and uncalled for?
Fornication and adultery are both grievous sins. I never said that it is OK to have sex with anybody but your opposite sex spouse.

“United We Stand”

Since: May 09

Los Angeles

#800 Jun 15, 2010
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>Fornication and adultery are both grievous sins. I never said that it is OK to have sex with anybody but your opposite sex spouse.
Yeah, but you're still kind of missing my point.

My real point is: Unless the government will make laws to restrict the reckless marriages and other sexual behaviors of straights -- like fornication, making several children out of wedlock, etc., etc. it has no right to prohibit homosexuals from getting married.

And unless straights like yourself fight these things just as much and try just as hard to make laws against them, you simply have no freaking right to whine and cry about homosexuals and gay marriage. And you certainly have no right trying to prevent homosexual marriage.

But most straight people like yourself who are against gay marriage never see their own faults and shortcomings. Neither do they want the government to involve itself with their personal affairs and their right to commit fornication, adultery, and marry or divorce whomever they want to -- when they want to.

And since you guys are the ones doing the most breeding, the government should be more cautious with you than with homosexuals. But right now, it's still the other way around.

And that's just plain unfair, wicked, evil, vile, hateful, and most importantly -- hypocritical.
Ray Cathode

Vestal, NY

#802 Jun 15, 2010
Get a grip wrote:
<quoted text>You gave NO explanation at all. You are an awful human being and I will not waste one more second with you.[/quote]

Promise?

[quote]I don't know why you are so obsessed with homosexuality and repeating the same garbage every day of your life.[/quote]

That's an easy one. He perceives homosexuality as a bad thing and wishes to do whatever he can to combat it.

[quote]You are nothing more than an internet troll.[/quote]

Weak, very weak.

[quote]I pity you and keep people like you far away from me and my family.
I have no doubt that he wishes to be far away from you, and thanks you for the assist.
Ray Cathode

Vestal, NY

#803 Jun 15, 2010
Oh drat. Multiple quote blocks don't seem to work. Oh well, I think we get the idea anyway.

Since: Jul 08

El Paso, TX

#804 Jun 16, 2010
ILuvLA wrote:
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Sorry, but there is no straight gene either -- which should prove that heterosexuality is natural and that no one is supposed to be homosexual.
Wont go back to EP claims there is.

Since: Jul 08

El Paso, TX

#805 Jun 16, 2010
ILuvLA wrote:
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No that's not what I'm saying. And that's not what I said. If anything what I am saying is that most relationships by straights are causing most of the social and financial ill -- including abortions, child abuse, adultery, divorce, and broken homes -- making children grow up very dysfunctional and unproductive.
If you really believe that all or most traditional marriages in this country are for the public good, then you are ignorant about this subject as well as very naive.
Truly, you can't believe that ALL traditional marriages in this country are really benefiting society -- or making the best children or future citizens.
Traditional marriage has nothing to do with any financial and social ills and of course I believe traditional is for the public good and most beneficial to children.

Since: Jul 08

El Paso, TX

#806 Jun 16, 2010
Get a grip wrote:
<quoted text>You gave NO explanation at all. You are an awful human being and I will not waste one more second with you.
I don't know why you are so obsessed with homosexuality and repeating the same garbage every day of your life. You are nothing more than an internet troll. I pity you and keep people like you far away from me and my family.
I wish you no harm, simply that you educate yourself and perhaps grow a heart.
In other words, since I do not agree with you about homosexuality then I am an "awful human being" and an "internet troll". Is that correct? By "educate" do you mean accept?

Since: Jul 08

El Paso, TX

#807 Jun 16, 2010
ILuvLA wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, but you're still kind of missing my point.
My real point is: Unless the government will make laws to restrict the reckless marriages and other sexual behaviors of straights -- like fornication, making several children out of wedlock, etc., etc. it has no right to prohibit homosexuals from getting married.
And unless straights like yourself fight these things just as much and try just as hard to make laws against them, you simply have no freaking right to whine and cry about homosexuals and gay marriage. And you certainly have no right trying to prevent homosexual marriage.
But most straight people like yourself who are against gay marriage never see their own faults and shortcomings. Neither do they want the government to involve itself with their personal affairs and their right to commit fornication, adultery, and marry or divorce whomever they want to -- when they want to.
And since you guys are the ones doing the most breeding, the government should be more cautious with you than with homosexuals. But right now, it's still the other way around.
And that's just plain unfair, wicked, evil, vile, hateful, and most importantly -- hypocritical.
It is a lack of morals and values and not the existence of heterosexuals or the institution of marriage itself that contributes to divorce, etc... However, one of the greatest contributors to immorality, dysfunction and the continued decay of the American family besides pornography is the gay community.

“United We Stand”

Since: May 09

Los Angeles

#808 Jun 16, 2010
Jitney wrote:
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It is a lack of morals and values and not the existence of heterosexuals or the institution of marriage itself that contributes to divorce, etc... However, one of the greatest contributors to immorality, dysfunction and the continued decay of the American family besides pornography is the gay community.
Hey, no kidding Sherlock! I know that most straights in this country are immoral and lack values. But gays have very little to do with that. And porn and kiddy porn are a big fav of many so-called straights.

Straight Christians are the vast majority who make most of the decisions, who own most everything, and who call the shots.

Straights are destroying this country on they're own -- and always have been -- without the help of gays.

But the government should have acted along time ago to prevent bad marriages, child abuse, abortions, having children out of wedlock, and recklessly spreading STDs.

You can't simply just go out and get a motor vehicle license. You have to receive driving education, experience, and testing.

How come people who get marriage licenses don't have to do the same?

How come people aren't being screened better -- to be tested for fitness first in order to get married or become parents.

How come straights get to make all the unwanted babies they want to without punishment. How come they're allowed to fornicate all they want to?

Like I said, until the government curtails your irresponsible, immoral behavior, which 90% of all you straights -- married or not are guilty of, then it simply has no business telling gays they can't or shouldn't get married.

And until people like you start trying to make laws against these things -- that are really hurting our society, you have no right to rally against gays and help make laws against them or gay marriage.

Since: Apr 10

Fresno, CA

#809 Jun 16, 2010
Noteable comments from todays closing arguments in the prop 8 trial:

And as far as raising children in a stable
happy environment, here is the last clip from
Mr. Blankenhorn.
"Q. You were not meaning to imply, were
you, that biological parents were any better
parents than adoptive parents?
"A. No, sir.
"Q. In fact, the studies show that all
other things being equal, two adoptive parents
raising a child from birth will do as well as
two biological parents raising a child from
birth. Correct?
"A. No, sir. That's incorrect.
"Q. Sir,?
"A. May I say another word on that,
please?
"Q. You will have an opportunity on
redirect.
"A. It was a clarifying thing. It
actually supports something you just said.
The studies show that adoptive parents because
of the rigorous screening process that they undertake
before becoming adoptive parents actually on some
outcomes out strip the biological parents in terms of
providing protective care for their children."

Wednesday June 16, 2010 3:41
3:43 MR. OLSON: Well, there you have it. There
are 37,000 children in same sex families in California.
According to doctor Blankenhorn they are better off,
perhaps, than in opposite side marriages. Now, maybe
they are not. But all of the evidence was that they
would not be any worse. Several of the evidence -- much
of the evidence suggested those children are in happy
relationships. And Mr. Blankenhorn also suggested that
when marriage is legalized between their parents they
will be better off still.

JUDGE WALKER: Parental responsibilities don't
depend upon how the child came into the world. Parental
responsibilities extend to adoptive parents who had
nothing to do with the creation of the child physically.
They extend to inlaws and grandparents and a host of
other people who are not involved in any way, at least
in the creation of this child as a human
being.

JUDGE WALKER: Let me ask, if you have got
7 million Californians who took this position, 70 judges
as you pointed out, and this long history that you
have described, why in this case did you present but one
witness on this subject, one witness? It seems you had
a lot to choose from if you had that many people behind
you. Why only one witness? And I think it fair to say
that his testimony was equivocal in some respects.
bikerscum

San Jose, CA

#811 Jun 16, 2010
Jitney wrote:
<quoted text>
Agreed.
My goodness! You two must not have been paying much attention as you pass through life! There are LOTS of things WAY more disgusting! For instance, intolerance, George W. Bush"s lies to start a war, etc, etc. Wake up!

Since: Jul 08

El Paso, TX

#812 Jun 17, 2010
ILuvLA wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey, no kidding Sherlock! I know that most straights in this country are immoral and lack values. But gays have very little to do with that. And porn and kiddy porn are a big fav of many so-called straights.
Straight Christians are the vast majority who make most of the decisions, who own most everything, and who call the shots.
Straights are destroying this country on they're own -- and always have been -- without the help of gays.
But the government should have acted along time ago to prevent bad marriages, child abuse, abortions, having children out of wedlock, and recklessly spreading STDs.
You can't simply just go out and get a motor vehicle license. You have to receive driving education, experience, and testing.
How come people who get marriage licenses don't have to do the same?
How come people aren't being screened better -- to be tested for fitness first in order to get married or become parents.
How come straights get to make all the unwanted babies they want to without punishment. How come they're allowed to fornicate all they want to?
Like I said, until the government curtails your irresponsible, immoral behavior, which 90% of all you straights -- married or not are guilty of, then it simply has no business telling gays they can't or shouldn't get married.
And until people like you start trying to make laws against these things -- that are really hurting our society, you have no right to rally against gays and help make laws against them or gay marriage.
Your repetitive nonsensical rant lacks substance or any credibility in your blind support for gay marriage. By continuing to argue that heterosexuals are the ones damaging society falsely assumes a position that the deviant behavior of homosexuals is somehow harmless and more beneficial to society than traditional marriage. Your dishonest approach to the subject matter attempts to distract from the true agenda by the gay community, which is to make gender irrelevant.

Since: Jul 08

El Paso, TX

#813 Jun 17, 2010
bikerscum wrote:
<quoted text>My goodness! You two must not have been paying much attention as you pass through life! There are LOTS of things WAY more disgusting! For instance, intolerance, George W. Bush"s lies to start a war, etc, etc. Wake up!
So your stance is that there are things way more disgusting as you take a swipe at dubya?

“United We Stand”

Since: May 09

Los Angeles

#814 Jun 17, 2010
Jitney wrote:
<quoted text>
Your repetitive nonsensical rant lacks substance or any credibility in your blind support for gay marriage. By continuing to argue that heterosexuals are the ones damaging society falsely assumes a position that the deviant behavior of homosexuals is somehow harmless and more beneficial to society than traditional marriage. Your dishonest approach to the subject matter attempts to distract from the true agenda by the gay community, which is to make gender irrelevant.
Sorry, but look around you. Read the newspaper. This country is primarily made of heterosexuals -- most of whom claim to be Christian in some way, shape, or form.

So naturally, it is mostly them who are creating most of this country's woes. And it was like that long before gays came out of the closet to get politically involved -- and fight for their equal rights.

And the gays who wish to marry don't generally fit your negative stereotypes you have of them either. They are not the problem in this country -- but rather, part of the solution.

Not all gay people are bad. And certainly not all heterosexuals are really "straight." A large percentage of them, are in fact pretty crooked. And these Jerry Springer straights are tearing this country down with their ignorance, immorality, and reckless behaviors, as well as their greed.

And although most claim to be Christian, they do NOT in any manner practice true Christianity. And they certainly don't follow the Bible. And what's more, they have no right to "cherry pick" the scriptures to deny gay people of their secular rights -- while at the same time ignore other more important scriptures -- and never fight to have the government regulate their funky behavior through these same scriptures they "cherry pick."

And I am not blindly fighting for equal rights. I know the issues at hand. And I know and understand the Bible better than you do.

And honestly, people like you, if you were so damned concerned about the woes in this country, you would have fought hard a long time ago for the government to actually "govern" the behavior of these people.

But only at a time that it's convenient for you, you choose only to fight against things like gay marriage.

Meanwhile, you are not equally protesting all these other disgusting things I mentioned. And your kind is not trying to make laws respecting these matters. And of course not; why would you. You are the ones doing these things.

And you can't possibly blame what 97% of the so-called "straight" American population does on the mere 3% of homosexuals in this country.

Sorry, but that won't fly with me.

And gender should be irrelevant.

It is just as stupid to bully, harass, persecute, belittle, or deny secular rights to someone based on mere sexual orientation as it is to bully, harass, persecute, belittle, or deny secular rights to someone based on skin color, race, creed, sex, disability, religion, or national origin.

Since: Jul 08

El Paso, TX

#815 Jun 17, 2010
ILuvLA wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, but look around you. Read the newspaper. This country is primarily made of heterosexuals -- most of whom claim to be Christian in some way, shape, or form.
So naturally, it is mostly them who are creating most of this country's woes. And it was like that long before gays came out of the closet to get politically involved -- and fight for their equal rights.
And the gays who wish to marry don't generally fit your negative stereotypes you have of them either. They are not the problem in this country -- but rather, part of the solution.
Not all gay people are bad. And certainly not all heterosexuals are really "straight." A large percentage of them, are in fact pretty crooked. And these Jerry Springer straights are tearing this country down with their ignorance, immorality, and reckless behaviors, as well as their greed.
And although most claim to be Christian, they do NOT in any manner practice true Christianity. And they certainly don't follow the Bible. And what's more, they have no right to "cherry pick" the scriptures to deny gay people of their secular rights -- while at the same time ignore other more important scriptures -- and never fight to have the government regulate their funky behavior through these same scriptures they "cherry pick."
And I am not blindly fighting for equal rights. I know the issues at hand. And I know and understand the Bible better than you do.
And honestly, people like you, if you were so damned concerned about the woes in this country, you would have fought hard a long time ago for the government to actually "govern" the behavior of these people.
But only at a time that it's convenient for you, you choose only to fight against things like gay marriage.
Meanwhile, you are not equally protesting all these other disgusting things I mentioned. And your kind is not trying to make laws respecting these matters. And of course not; why would you. You are the ones doing these things.
And you can't possibly blame what 97% of the so-called "straight" American population does on the mere 3% of homosexuals in this country.
Sorry, but that won't fly with me.
And gender should be irrelevant.
It is just as stupid to bully, harass, persecute, belittle, or deny secular rights to someone based on mere sexual orientation as it is to bully, harass, persecute, belittle, or deny secular rights to someone based on skin color, race, creed, sex, disability, religion, or national origin.
Thank you for confirming my previous post.

“1-800-WAA-AAAA”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#816 Jun 17, 2010
Jitney wrote:
<quoted text>
But I'm not uneducated or a bigot just because I disagree with homosexual behavior. Is that what you want to teach your children?
No, I'm teaching my children tolerance and acceptance of different people and ideas and that just because we see the world our way, there are other ways to see it that don't have to be 'the right way' or the 'wrong way' because it is not ours.
Viewing your posts overall, you are an uneducated bigot based on your spewing, not your disagreement. Denying a person equality based on who they sleep with, and believing yourself morally superior because of who you sleep with makes you a bigot, your attitude and language used to describe homosexuals as a group adds to it and shows you as uneducated.
Get a grip

Clovis, CA

#821 Jun 17, 2010
Wont go back to EP wrote:
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No, I'm teaching my children tolerance and acceptance of different people and ideas and that just because we see the world our way, there are other ways to see it that don't have to be 'the right way' or the 'wrong way' because it is not ours.
Viewing your posts overall, you are an uneducated bigot based on your spewing, not your disagreement. Denying a person equality based on who they sleep with, and believing yourself morally superior because of who you sleep with makes you a bigot, your attitude and language used to describe homosexuals as a group adds to it and shows you as uneducated.
Great post!

Since: Jul 08

El Paso, TX

#822 Jun 18, 2010
Wont go back to EP wrote:
<quoted text>
No, I'm teaching my children tolerance and acceptance of different people and ideas and that just because we see the world our way, there are other ways to see it that don't have to be 'the right way' or the 'wrong way' because it is not ours.
Viewing your posts overall, you are an uneducated bigot based on your spewing, not your disagreement. Denying a person equality based on who they sleep with, and believing yourself morally superior because of who you sleep with makes you a bigot, your attitude and language used to describe homosexuals as a group adds to it and shows you as uneducated.
And that is fine if you want to teach your children tolerance and acceptance because it is not up to the Supreme Court, city councils, or school boards to do so.

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