The inconvenient 17-year pause in global warming

Sep 13, 2013 Full story: South China Morning Post 123

Howard Winn has been with the South China Morning Post for two and half years after previous stints as business editor and deputy editor of The Standard, and business editor of Asia Times.

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#21 Sep 19, 2013
I didn't "read" the article, I carried out a quick word check on it, and "somebody seeking safe place" is not mentioned in it either.
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#22 Sep 19, 2013
Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>"Refugee" isn't once mentioned in that article.
Neither are you. What are we to think of that?

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Since: Oct 10

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#23 Sep 20, 2013
LessFactMoreHype wrote:
Neither are you.
That pleases me, Mr Undoubtably Spelt Fourty.
LessFactMoreHype wrote:
What are we to think of that?
Do your usual and don't bother to think.

BTW, tell me how these quotes could be "taken out of context."
NobodyYouEverWantToKnow, aka:
LessFactMoreHype wrote:
Deforestations is a consequence of AGW,...
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...

NobodyYouEverWantToKnow, aka:
LessFactMoreHype wrote:
GHGs are primarily anthropogenic
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...
Fun Facts

Las Cruces, NM

#24 Sep 20, 2013
Drove around eastern New Mexico earlier this week, Monday crossed a river that was full, Tuesday it had covered the entire flood plain and it looked like a lake.

Fortunately, I was on a elevated highway, it had done this before.
dont drink the koolaid

Minneapolis, MN

#25 Sep 20, 2013
Fun Facts wrote:
Drove around eastern New Mexico earlier this week, Monday crossed a river that was full, Tuesday it had covered the entire flood plain and it looked like a lake.
Fortunately, I was on a elevated highway, it had done this before.
More robust evidence in support of "The Anthropogenic Carbon Dioxide Driven Catastrophic Global Climate Disruption Orthodoxy"
No Warming

Waverly, OH

#26 Sep 20, 2013
Fun Facts wrote:
Drove around eastern New Mexico earlier this week, Monday crossed a river that was full, Tuesday it had covered the entire flood plain and it looked like a lake.
Fortunately, I was on a elevated highway, it had done this before.
Maybe you only imagined the water, global warming causes people to imagine things. I'm hoping the warming doesn't cause me to delusion myself into wearing shorts when temps hit zero this winter. There are a couple of dolts on this forum that probably do, in their minds it proves warming.

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Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

#27 Sep 21, 2013
Fun Facts wrote:
Drove around eastern New Mexico earlier this week, Monday crossed a river that was full, Tuesday it had covered the entire flood plain and it looked like a lake.
Fortunately, I was on a elevated highway, it had done this before.
Wow, it must be Glowbull warming.ֿ
Fun Facts

Las Cruces, NM

#28 Sep 21, 2013
No Warming wrote:
<quoted text>
Maybe you only imagined the water, global warming causes people to imagine things. I'm hoping the warming doesn't cause me to delusion myself into wearing shorts when temps hit zero this winter. There are a couple of dolts on this forum that probably do, in their minds it proves warming.
That's funny. But we have those imagined waters around here too. The mirages. No need for a mirage today, plenty of real stuff.
Fun Facts

Las Cruces, NM

#29 Sep 21, 2013
dont drink the koolaid wrote:
<quoted text>
More robust evidence in support of "The Anthropogenic Carbon Dioxide Driven Catastrophic Global Climate Disruption Orthodoxy"
What he said.
Fun Facts

Las Cruces, NM

#30 Sep 21, 2013
Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>Wow, it must be Glowbull warming.ֿ
Of course it's global warming, unless of course it's global cooling, but it's not really global cooling just a lack of warming, but not really because the warming all went into the ocean. Where they can't find it.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#31 Sep 21, 2013
Fun Facts wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course it's global warming, unless of course it's global cooling, but it's not really global cooling just a lack of warming, but not really because the warming all went into the ocean. Where they can't find it.
Fun Facts wrote:
There is no 'missing heat'
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#32 Sep 21, 2013
Fun Facts wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course it's global warming, unless of course it's global cooling, but it's not really global cooling just a lack of warming, but not really because the warming all went into the ocean. Where they can't find it.
Even Fox news has cottoned on to the fact that Trenberth found his missing heat:

Many researchers say the slowdown in warming is related to the natural ocean cycles of El Nino and La Nina. Also, a 2013 study by Kevin Trenberth at the National Center for Atmospheric Research found dramatic recent warming in the deeper oceans.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/09/20/war...

Maybe when fun farts can read it in a stolen email he'll believe it.

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Since: Oct 10

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#33 Sep 22, 2013
Fun Facts wrote:
Of course it's global warming, unless of course it's global cooling, but it's not really global cooling just a lack of warming, but not really because the warming all went into the ocean. Where they can't find it.
Fuggy evidently doesn't do sarcasm.
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#34 Sep 22, 2013
Fair Game wrote:
<quoted text>
Even Fox news has cottoned on to the fact that Trenberth found his missing heat:
Slight change. It wasn't 'missing'. It was just 'unobserved' due to limited instrumentation (Deep oceans). And the gain in thermal energy (AGW) was uninterrupted. No miracles occurred.. As expected..
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#35 Sep 22, 2013
Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>Fuggy evidently doesn't do sarcasm.
And you don't do science.
Fun Facts

Las Cruces, NM

#36 Sep 22, 2013
Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>Fuggy evidently doesn't do sarcasm.
No, he doesn't.
Fun Facts

Las Cruces, NM

#37 Sep 22, 2013
Fair Game wrote:
My statement 'There is no missing heat...'

There is no 'missing heat' only an erroneous equation. If the heat is really there, then the equation is wrong. The equation defines where to find the heat in the earth's energy balance calculations, not the other way around.

I have been posting about the oceans and their impact on climate for years. I have been posting about solar activity and it's impact on oceans for years.

It's not news that the oceans absorb the heat, they always have absorbed the heat. They absorbed the heat in the 80s and 90s when global warming was in full force.

Now just as a brain teaser, if the oceans absorbed the heat in 1985 and the heat wasn't missing, then why is the heat missing today because the oceans absorbed the heat?

Or do you really think the oceans just suddenly started to absorb heat?
Fun Facts

Las Cruces, NM

#38 Sep 22, 2013
Fair Game wrote:
<quoted text>
Even Fox news has cottoned on to the fact that Trenberth found his missing heat:
Many researchers say the slowdown in warming is related to the natural ocean cycles of El Nino and La Nina. Also, a 2013 study by Kevin Trenberth at the National Center for Atmospheric Research found dramatic recent warming in the deeper oceans.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/09/20/war...
Maybe when fun farts can read it in a stolen email he'll believe it.
When did they start measuring the temperature of the deep oceans? Could it be they found the heat when they began to measure?

What was the temperature of the deep oceans in 1990? You can't tell me, because no one measured them.

If you don't know what the heat content was in 1990, or 1940 how can you say the heat went into the oceans any differently today than it did in prior periods?

Ocean heat reanalysis is another computer model.

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Since: Oct 10

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#39 Sep 22, 2013
Fun Facts wrote:
Now just as a brain teaser, if the oceans absorbed the heat in 1985 and the heat wasn't missing, then why is the heat missing today because the oceans absorbed the heat?
That's an easy one to answer, it sounds like a good excuse, the best they could come up with at the time.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#40 Sep 22, 2013
Fun Facts wrote:
<quoted text>
My statement 'There is no missing heat...'
There is no 'missing heat' only an erroneous equation. If the heat is really there, then the equation is wrong. The equation defines where to find the heat in the earth's energy balance calculations, not the other way around.
Wrong. Satellite measurements say there's more energy arriving than leaving. That equation doesn't say anything about where the heat might be.
I have been posting about the oceans and their impact on climate for years.
Length of time posting doesn't say anything about the quality of your posts. Your posts are and always were contrary to scientific understanding, and motivated by ideological wishful thinking not rational assessment of the evidence.
I have been posting about solar activity and it's impact on oceans for years.
Length of time posting doesn't say anything about the quality of your posts. Your posts are and always were contrary to scientific understanding, and motivated by ideological wishful thinking not rational assessment of the evidence.
It's not news that the oceans absorb the heat, they always have absorbed the heat. They absorbed the heat in the 80s and 90s when global warming was in full force.
Now just as a brain teaser, if the oceans absorbed the heat in 1985 and the heat wasn't missing, then why is the heat missing today because the oceans absorbed the heat?
Or do you really think the oceans just suddenly started to absorb heat?
That's right- there's been a shift in the climate system which means the deep ocean has absorbed more heat in recent years. This is based on scientific evidence.

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/media/pdf/q/0/Pap...

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