Some Mexicans leaving US, planning ne...

Some Mexicans leaving US, planning never to return

There are 15730 comments on the Santa Cruz Sentinel story from Dec 15, 2008, titled Some Mexicans leaving US, planning never to return. In it, Santa Cruz Sentinel reports that:

After going months without a full-time job, Daniel Ramirez has decided it's time to return to family in Mexico.

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whitehair

Crestwood, KY

#91 Dec 16, 2008
The whole problem with illegal immigration is illegal! Our gov`t has a understanding problem in Congress and they are the ones not protecting the Borders of the U.S.They are the ones issuing welfare,subsidized illegal immigration with giv-a-ways,social security,etc.

Have these illegals had to climb the fence to go home or do they just drive back with a truck load of goodies??

Please,all illegals go home!!!!!
Dave

Santa Cruz, CA

#93 Dec 16, 2008
Joe wrote:
<quoted text>
You obviously are one arrogant Mexican who despises the people of the USA, the citizens and legal immigrants of this country but don't worry, many unemployed Americans will do road construction and other work. That's why the USA has many roads and Mexico has very few.
If Mexicans were so hard working then Mexico would be in better shape. They would have running water, paved roads and better quality houses. How much work is it to take a few discarded wood pallets and cardboard boxes and build a home? Why does the USA have indoor plumbing while Mexicans are using outdoor latrines? It doesn't take that much effort to build an outhouse, but an open latrine is much easier.
You have taken a pretty good argument and totally taken it into the cellar. This is NOT about how lazy one group of people are. People are people. Simple as that. These folks have a government that has betrayed them. If you want to do any chest pounding, brag about the leadership of this country when it had it's beginnings. The system, although not perfect was and is as mankind has come up with to date. If the people of Mexico have a fault it is that they are too trusting. I'll take that for a fault any day. They need to work very hard to get a government that will not just line it's pockets at the expense of the citizens. By far the great majority of Mexican citizens that I have known and worked with are some of the hardest working folks around. I am hopeful that when they go home they get very dissatisfied with their present government and throw the bums out.
Dave

Santa Cruz, CA

#94 Dec 16, 2008
omitted "good as " in front of mankind. Good writer, Bad typist.

Since: Jun 08

Milpitas, CA

#95 Dec 16, 2008
Dave wrote:
Pluses-
Freeways will be far less crowded
State Welfare rolls will be down
Emergency Rooms will have people in them that require real emergency care, not a regular doctor's visit.
Schools will have less crowding.
Unemployment will be down.
Donations to the poor will be for folks that are home grown.
Employee wages will go up in certain jobs.
Fewer people at the "thieves" markets.
Minuses
Higher prices for certain services
Car makers will be looking for their cars that have not been paid for.
More homes repoed on the market.
Fewer people at the "thieves" markets.
Less sales tax revenue.
Certainly less beer sales.
Give some time for the government to come up with a real immigration plan, if they want to.
Like most things in life, there is no free lunch. There will be some people hurt by a mass migration and some people helped. All in all, I would think that it will be a benefit.
you forgot one more plus, you wont have to press one for english

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#96 Dec 16, 2008
Guess what? When they get to the border with all this wealth i.e. Furniture, electronics, jewelry, money, etc! The Mexican government is going to charge them mucho taxes on these items. What about all the car loans, personal loans, mortgages, unpaid rent and other things these people are going to abandon. But what goes around comes around. Legal Mexican citizens have been taking advantage of these people for years. Johnny at the Harbor..and here Legally..
Cut your own lawn

Albemarle, NC

#98 Dec 16, 2008
Scared wrote:
Who is going to mow my lawn now? Will your daughter work for 7.50 an hour and bust her a$$ all day in the 98 degree temp so my yard looks pretty?
I'll cut my own lawn, and rake my own damn leaves. If you have kids, make them do it for nothing! I had to do it when I was younger, but I guess things have changed since then!
Realist

Salinas, CA

#102 Dec 16, 2008
814,000 uneducated and unskilled people is still an unacceptable number that the USA cannot assimilate. This country needs to restrict immigration to just those with real skills and education and stop trying to import poverty into our country.
Realist

Salinas, CA

#104 Dec 16, 2008
Dave wrote:
Pluses-
Freeways will be far less crowded
State Welfare rolls will be down
Emergency Rooms will have people in them that require real emergency care, not a regular doctor's visit.
Schools will have less crowding.
Unemployment will be down.
Donations to the poor will be for folks that are home grown.
Employee wages will go up in certain jobs.
Fewer people at the "thieves" markets.
Minuses
Higher prices for certain services
Car makers will be looking for their cars that have not been paid for.
More homes repoed on the market.
Fewer people at the "thieves" markets.
Less sales tax revenue.
Certainly less beer sales.
Give some time for the government to come up with a real immigration plan, if they want to.
Like most things in life, there is no free lunch. There will be some people hurt by a mass migration and some people helped. All in all, I would think that it will be a benefit.
You forgot the 48,000 illegals in California Prisons costing us $1.4 BILLION DOLLARS ANNUALLY!
Take More Sloths With You

El Segundo, CA

#108 Dec 16, 2008
can they take a few hundred truckloads of people from Oakland and Richmond with them?
Ella

El Paso, TX

#110 Dec 16, 2008
Nomás le toman sabor y después les damos el partido que se las quite. Nuestro pueblo nunca ha tenido justicia, ni siquiera libertad. Todos los terrenos principales los tienen los ricos, y él, el pobrecito encuerado, trabajando de sol a sol. Yo creo que en lo sucesivo va a ser otra vida, y si no, no dejamos esos máuseres que tenemos…
Mariane

El Paso, TX

#111 Dec 16, 2008
B-ROD wrote:
<quoted text>very well said.
You are SOOOOO RIGHT!!!!
Dave

Santa Cruz, CA

#113 Dec 16, 2008
Realist wrote:
<quoted text>
You forgot the 48,000 illegals in California Prisons costing us $1.4 BILLION DOLLARS ANNUALLY!
You are correct on that one, but that won't disappear when the many thousands go back home. Those folks are here for a long time. I would put them out on the hills cutting the brush to stop the build up of all of the very dry fuel for next fire season. Pay them in time off for work. No money out of pocket and the sooner they can get out the sooner we can fly them back to their old country. If we see them again, it is for life in Louisiana or Alabama. I think that would slow them down.
Reading a book about the crime wave that hit the country back in the thirties. These bank robbers did most of their robbing in the mid west and north because they were all afraid of the Southern prisons. The only ones that did not go along with this program were Bonnie and Clyde. They were just small time hoods anyway. It wasn't until they were killed that they became a legend. Same thing would work today if the prisons were made a little tougher.
Rocio Lopez

Yuma, AZ

#114 Dec 16, 2008
Plain and simple, follow the rules.

But half of it is to blame on the Govt too.

Half the situations come from our Govt' because once they try one new way it goes all down hill.
I Think That

AOL

#116 Dec 17, 2008
Good Bye is all I can say ! They bring the standard of living down in the USA anyways .
James

Richardson, TX

#117 Dec 17, 2008
So about 1 million make the trek "home" for Xmas. Riddle me this, why do we allow the travelers who are here illegally back in after the holidays?

I guess the only good thing about the state of the US economy is these folks are realizing what we've known all along, privelages in the US don't come easy, good times come with bad times, only difference is US citizen's seem to find ways to pull this country off it's knees when it's in trouble, we don't cut & run.

Bye now, don't let the fence gate hit ya on the way out...
Truth Squad

Reading, PA

#118 Dec 17, 2008
You need to go where the jobs are.

Mexico

Since: Aug 08

El Paso, Tx

#119 Dec 17, 2008
Truth Squad wrote:
You need to go where the jobs are.
Mexico
But the "Maquiladoras" are closing operations, several have fired thousands of employees lately, specially the ones tied with automotive industry, what they most likely do is add up to the violence in Juarez, no jobs so they have to steal to live...

“In the Desert”

Since: May 08

New York City

#121 Dec 17, 2008
an immigrant wrote:
Your "white" lazy people will be crying when there isn't anyone around to do your dirty work for peanuts.
Peanuts? Not really - They did a study (looking for the link now). The average illegal makes $ 12.83 per hour in the USA, tax free. That's about $ 15.00 per hour before tax. It's not peanuts.. It's quite a decent income. Expecially here in New Mexico
bPrOWEnR

United States

#122 Dec 17, 2008
alfa wolf wrote:
Byeeeeee !!!!!!!! See ya's!!!! Take the other 35 Million with you!
Does the 35-million include your parents?
Truth Squad

Reading, PA

#124 Dec 17, 2008
Drlar wrote:
<quoted text>
But the "Maquiladoras" are closing operations, several have fired thousands of employees lately, specially the ones tied with automotive industry, what they most likely do is add up to the violence in Juarez, no jobs so they have to steal to live...
It will soon lead to violence everywhere, unless something is done to stop the jobs losses. Though I think Maquiladoras's are a disgrace to the American worker.

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