At least 100 homes gone in Montecito

At least 100 homes gone in Montecito

There are 20 comments on the LA Daily News story from Nov 15, 2008, titled At least 100 homes gone in Montecito. In it, LA Daily News reports that:

Firefighters were holding their own Friday against a wildfire that destroyed more than 100 homes in a wealthy, celebrity-studded enclave, but authorities warned that new wind gusts could send the blaze on ...

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Rebecca

Woodland Hills, CA

#1 Nov 15, 2008
I BLAME GLOBAL WARMING!!!!!
why me

Bangkok, Thailand

#2 Nov 15, 2008
They are being punished for being LIBERAL!
Smokey The Bear

Clayton, NC

#3 Nov 15, 2008
At first I thought it was just all the smoke that Obama blew up my ass.

“Home In Georgia Now”

Since: Jul 07

The "City of Gold" in Georgia

#4 Nov 15, 2008
If you decide to build in an area that is very likely to be the scene of a "wildfire" year after year. Live with you decision. The same goes for anyone who elects to live in any area prone to natural disasters. At least the one couple did the right thing by cleaning out the "fuel" for a fire from around their home. They were smart and reaped a benefit of saving their home.
wait and see

Oologah, OK

#5 Nov 15, 2008
That just goes to show you...they have more money than brains..

Lets all build a house in the woods and watch it burn because we cant clear around it for the sake of the kangaroo rats...or was it the snail darter in the ditch..?
Tappy

Penn Valley, CA

#6 Nov 15, 2008
You are all sheep... the area that was most affected was not the "rich" area at all it was an area that has a community that has been there for 30-40 years and are far from rich. The news is just focusing on the "mansions" and "celebrities" when in fact most of those homes were far from the focal point of this fire... I guess it makes for a better story. Lots of ordinary people with very little money lost houses in this fire.

And as far as not building in an area that can have the occasional natural disaster... if you can tell me where that location is I'll happily move there. Many of these homes that burned in the past few days were there for 40+ years.
Tappy

Penn Valley, CA

#7 Nov 15, 2008
Also just an FYI, the "celebrities" have taken over parts of this area but there is still a large contingent of "locals" who are not rich. The area that burned first and the hardest before the firefighters were even on the scene was this area where most of the locals still live. You'll notice as well that the news seems to focus thier coverage on the "biggest" burning houses they can find... over 150 houses were burned and we say a handful of mansions on the news. Many of the other 120 houses were ordinary people with modest small houses who built when property up there wasn't worth much.

“Home In Georgia Now”

Since: Jul 07

The "City of Gold" in Georgia

#8 Nov 15, 2008
I never mentioned financial status. It matters not to me. The key word in my statement is "prone" to natural disasters. Like on the Florida coasts, the Gulf coast, tornado alley, the yearly wildfire regions of California, earth quake zones, living close to an active volcano etc, etc, etc. Are the losses tragic, damn right they are even if it is a storage shed. That being said I stand by my statement. And of course the main stream media is going to harp on the mansions. It sells the story.
Tappy

Penn Valley, CA

#9 Nov 15, 2008
John In North Carolina wrote:
The key word in my statement is "prone" to natural disasters.
If you look at history there is a major fire in this area about every 30 years. Would you consider that "prone"? If so, where exactly can people live if that is the criteria for being considered prone to disaster? If that criteria was used then California would have zero residents ... lol.
Chris Adams

Santa Barbara, CA

#10 Nov 15, 2008
No, its just the city has been trying its hardest to prevent fires in santa barbara yet Nature needs fire in order to survive, they had hundreds of acres with dead trees and brush which if it burned like it should every couple years or so we wouldn't have such big catastrophes like this. Fire is crucial to natures growth!!

“Home In Georgia Now”

Since: Jul 07

The "City of Gold" in Georgia

#11 Nov 15, 2008
Tappy wrote:
<quoted text>
If that criteria was used then California would have zero residents ... lol.
The rest of the nation could only wish.
Tappy

Penn Valley, CA

#12 Nov 15, 2008
John In North Carolina wrote:
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The rest of the nation could only wish.
Cool, we can all move to North Carolina...

“Home In Georgia Now”

Since: Jul 07

The "City of Gold" in Georgia

#13 Nov 15, 2008
Chris Adams wrote:
No, its just the city has been trying its hardest to prevent fires in santa barbara yet Nature needs fire in order to survive, they had hundreds of acres with dead trees and brush which if it burned like it should every couple years or so we wouldn't have such big catastrophes like this. Fire is crucial to natures growth!!
Exactly Chris. I remember when the Forest Commission was allowed to do regular control burns of the forest. But OH GOD NO. The tree huggers and other environmentalist got involved and protested this. I have read several articles on this and the point was made that the smoke from these controlled burns was not as dangerous as these groups made out. I know when I was growing up here in the south the large land owners each years burned the fields and their forest area. This cleared out the underbrush and actually made the habitat better for the animals and plant life.

“Home In Georgia Now”

Since: Jul 07

The "City of Gold" in Georgia

#14 Nov 15, 2008
Tappy wrote:
<quoted text>
If you look at history there is a major fire in this area about every 30 years. Would you consider that "prone"? residents ... lol.
30 years? Try almost every damn year. I just finished watching an interview with one of the Fire Chiefs in this area. His quote was, "The YEARLY" winds cause this problem for us. Not 30 years, yearly. I look for the insurance companies to move out of that area or jack the premiums up to cover their loss, just as they did in Florida.
Tappy

Penn Valley, CA

#15 Nov 15, 2008
If you want to make a generalization that wind is bad for fires in general, then you are correct. But to say that area of Santa Barbara burns every year is incorrect. The last major fire in that area was in 1977.

“Home In Georgia Now”

Since: Jul 07

The "City of Gold" in Georgia

#16 Nov 15, 2008
I agree that where this fire is taking place had its last bad one in 1977. My statement is for California overall. Here ares ome of the worst wildfires in California this century, based on deaths, destruction or acreage burned I found. It does not have the data from 2007. I know on July 2, 2007 there was about 27 wildfires in progress that day.

October 2003: Cedar Fire, near San Diego, 273,000 acres, 4,847 structures, 15 deaths. Accidentally started by a hunter in the Cleveland National Forest, it was among 15 wildfires that killed 22 people, destroyed 3,640 homes and blackened 750,000 acres of Southern California during a two-week period.

November 1993: Topanga Fire, Malibu area of Los Angeles County. 18,000 acres, 323 homes, three deaths. Cause: Arson. The fire was among more than 20 that killed four people, destroyed more than 1,000 homes and consumed 193,814 acres during a two-week period.

October 1991: Tunnel Fire, Oakland hills of Alameda County. 1,520 acres, 3,276 homes and apartments destroyed, 25 people killed. Cause: A flying ember from a fire believed contained ignited a tree.

November 1980: Panorama Fire, San Bernardino foothills. 23,600 acres, 325 homes destroyed, four dead. Cause: Arson.

September 1970: Laguna Fire, San Diego County mountains. 175,425 acres, 382 structures, six dead. Cause: Power lines.

November 1966: Loop Fire, near Angeles National Forest in Los Angeles County. 2,028 acres, 12 firefighters killed. Power line.

November 1961: Bel Air-Brentwood Fire, Los Angeles County. 6,090 acres, 484 homes, 21 other buildings. Cause: Believed to be accidental.

July 1953: Rattlesnake Fire, Glenn County. 1,300 acres, 15 firefighters killed. Cause: Arson.

October 1933: Griffith Park Fire, Los Angeles County. 47 acres, 29 welfare workers clearing brush killed. Cause: Undetermined.
Tappy

Penn Valley, CA

#17 Nov 15, 2008
John In North Carolina wrote:
I agree that where this fire is taking place had its last bad one in 1977. My statement is for California overall. Here ares ome of the worst wildfires in California this century, based on deaths, destruction or acreage burned I found. It does not have the data from 2007. I know on July 2, 2007 there was about 27 wildfires in progress that day.
There is no doubt there are fires in California, but for the most part they probably affect about 1% of the state. The news agencies like to trump things up and make it sound worse than it is.

Yep... fires happen... and they should happen they are part of nature. But when they do and CNN is reporting "LA BURNS!" it makes things seem a lot worse than they are. I was in LA when those 27 fires were burning... didn't even notice except for a bit of smoke in the air. Then you go watch the news and you would think the entire city was on fire... just the news selling you a story.

Even this fire, as bad as it was... probably like 1% of the houses in the area burned. A bad situation for those who lost homes but to panic and say no one should be able to live in these areas is a bit silly.
No Doubt

Trabuco Canyon, CA

#18 Nov 15, 2008
We can travese the universe, invent the computer, conclude that global warming is manmade,

but yet, no one can figure out a way to keep our homes from burning down.

One thing we know for sure,

This is not God's Wrath.

Or is it?
Jim

Colorado Springs, CO

#19 Nov 15, 2008
You can bet that state and local politicians would not let the homes of celebrities like Rob Lowe, Jeff Bridges, Michael Douglas and Oprah Winfrey burn down, regardless of the cost and regardless of how many extra firefighters needed to be brought in to save their homes.
Tappy

Penn Valley, CA

#20 Nov 15, 2008
Looks like they released the initial addresses of the lost homes. Doesn't look like Mountain Drive did so well :/

https://www.countyofsb.org/uploadedFiles/ceo/...

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