Judge overturns California's ban on s...

Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

There are 201821 comments on the www.cnn.com story from Aug 4, 2010, titled Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage. In it, www.cnn.com reports that:

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#190479 Apr 29, 2013
Here's how your barbaric community attempts to "straighten" kids out...

Gay Teens Starved, Tortured, Killed at Camp to Turn Them into ‘Men’

Three ‘gay and effeminate’ teens have died after being starved, tortured and killed at a camp that promised to turn them into 'men'.

A picture of Raymond Buys, 15, taken in April 2011 showed a skeletal, emaciated figure fighting for his life.

Just 10 weeks before, the teen’s parents signed him up to the Echo Wild Game Rangers training course in South Africa in perfect health.

In hospital, Buys was severely malnourished, dehydrated, his arm was broken in two places and there were burns and wounds all over his body. He lay in intensive care for four weeks until he died.

And now, the course ‘general’ Alex De Koker, 49, and employee Michael Erasmus, 20, are on trial for charges of murder, child abuse and neglect, along with two cases of assault with intent to do grievous bodily harm in relation to Buys' death.

The teen’s death is alleged to have been the third among the Afrikaans children who attended the R22,000 ($2,400,€1,900) courses, which have been advertized since 2006.

‘I sent my son on this course to make him a better man, to give him a better future,’ Buys’ mother told The Daily Telegraph.‘I trusted Alex De Koker with his life.’

Last week, the Vereeniging District Court heard the testimony of a boy who had shared a tent with Buys, the Daily Maverick reports.

Gerhard Oostuizen, 19, claims Buys was chained to his bed every night, was refused permission to visit the toilet and on one occasion was forced to eat his own feces.

He also said he would be beaten with planks, hosepipes and sticks when he failed to carry out manual labor tasks.

Oostuizen alleged further he saw De Koker tied Buys to a chair naked with his head covered in a pillowcase, and would electrocute him with a stun gun.

Gender activist Melanie Nathan has said the three young men were all perceived as ‘gay and clearly effeminate’.

In reference to ‘gay conversion camps’, Nathan writes:‘With a little bit of digging [into the story], the gay reparative undertones start to emerge.’

Eric Calitz, 18, and Nicolaas Van Der Walt, 19, had both died after being enrolled at the Echo Wild Game Rangers camp four years earlier.

When Calitz requested to leave, De Koker reportedly told him he ‘wasn’t a moffie [gay] and he would make a man out of him’.

Calitz’s family was informed of his death via text message, saying he had died of a heart attack.

Afterwards, doctors said the cause of death was from a seizure, dehydration and found bleeding from the brain.

Van Der Walt was also claimed to have died from a heart attack, but doctors said he had appeared to have been choked with a seatbelt.

In 2009, De Koker was handed a suspended sentence over Calitz but escaped charges for the death of Van Der Walt, and the camp was allowed to continue.

Both De Koker and Erasmus have pleaded not guilty to the charges. The case continues.
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#190480 Apr 29, 2013
Big D wrote:
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So you are totally unaware of the over a million same sex marriages worldwide, over 120,000 in the US, 18,000 even here in California?
Have you been living in a cave or something, or just watching Faux news?
Pretty telling about his cognitive abilities, isn't it.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#190481 Apr 29, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text> Pretty telling about his cognitive abilities, isn't it.
It is like the are living in a bubble, no information gets in other than what is spoon fed to them by either political or religious puppet masters
same ole

United States

#190482 Apr 29, 2013
The bible ppl....
Big D

Modesto, CA

#190483 Apr 29, 2013
Nevada is inching closer to overturning their constitutional ban, going to the vote in the legislature and they have the numbers, then onto the next ballot, which currently more voters support same sex marriage than oppose

California’s will also be overturned one way or the other as most California voters now support same sex marriage, but doubt that will be needed on a ballot, it will likely switch legally before the year is out.

Their magical 31 states will be 29 before too long with their "loss" of those two states.

Meanwhile Delaware, Rode island and Pennsylvania are on the move to recognizing same sex marriage.

Right now nearly all movement seems to be in the right direction.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#190484 Apr 29, 2013
I forgot to mention Oregon, a judge has recently found their ban to be unconstitutional... that one is just barely starting on the same path California is on.

Like I have been saying, things are moving so fast it is difficult to keep up
JoeFriday

Covina, CA

#190486 Apr 29, 2013
Why don't you let my friends alone?
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#190487 Apr 29, 2013
Big D wrote:
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It is funny, I have made predictions as to which state or nation will go next.. I have been wrong every time, some other state or nation speeds things up and slips in under the wire.
They are recognizing same sex marriages so fast it is difficult to keep up.
Another thing to note, is that California is in his “number of states”.... but California recognizes same sex marriages, some 18,000 of them preformed in the state, and there is no way the state legislature would sign on to that federal ban.. not going to happen.
He wouldn’t even get the states he is counting on, much less 7 others, you need 2/3 of state legislatures to get around the house and senate, which just isn’t going to happen.
They are desperately trying to find a way, but it is a lost cause, Same Sex marriage is a fact, and it will only grow from here.
Oy vey.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#190488 Apr 29, 2013
Big D wrote:
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So you are totally unaware of the over a million same sex marriages worldwide, over 120,000 in the US, 18,000 even here in California?
Have you been living in a cave or something, or just watching Faux news?
I'm aware there are a number of fake, imposter, sterile, duplicate half of marriage pretendies, but no such thing as a 'ss marriage'.

Smile.

Since: Jan 10

Lewis Center, OH

#190489 Apr 29, 2013
Rock Hudson wrote:
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Is that, um , that something that a "drunken loser who has missed the train" should learn from? So as not to be an "elitist hater"?
Yes, but, I've given up hope that you'll ever learn.
Mike the Pike

Glenn, CA

#190490 Apr 29, 2013
The more I read, the more stupid I think this subject is. Eventually, people will be marrying their pets because once marriage is disconnected from it's traditional meaning, there will be no boundary!

But, So what?! If our society is so stupid as to let 1-2% of our population bully us into this change then so be it! I will argue forever that this is the wrong policy but there are other issues quite frankly that are more pressing such as our poor foreign policy and utterly stupid domestic economic policy!

Since: Jan 10

Lewis Center, OH

#190491 Apr 29, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>Cry baby.
waa...
waa....
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Adapt or go extinct, wussy boy.
Those haters sure can whine. Makes me smile every time they do. They have such fragile egos. Wonder why?

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#190492 Apr 29, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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I'm aware there are a number of fake, imposter, sterile, duplicate half of marriage pretendies, but no such thing as a 'ss marriage'.
Smile.
They don't exist in your brain, but they do exist in the real world. Sucks to be a senile Kuntmary.

Since: Jan 10

Lewis Center, OH

#190493 Apr 29, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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I'm aware there are a number of fake, imposter, sterile, duplicate half of marriage pretendies, but no such thing as a 'ss marriage'.
Smile.
Your logic dictates that if you’re married (not sure if you are) it only qualifies as ¾ of a union since you proclaim yourself to be ½ woman and ½ man. Do you think monsters, such as yourself, should be allowed to marry?

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#190495 Apr 29, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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The Federal Marriage Amendment attempt failed in 2006. And in today's environment, it's even less likely to pass today.
Only 7 more State buddy..

BTW, that was a Congressional attempt at an Amendment, add 7 States and there is no need for Congress.

I suggest you read Article V of the US Constitution.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#190496 Apr 29, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
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Oh puh-leez. You don't have the votes to get an amendment out of Congress.
We don't need Congress, dumb ass. Just 7 more States.

I suggest you read Article V.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#190497 Apr 29, 2013
Big D wrote:
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It will never get to the states, I doubt it will pass the house, more Republicans are crossing the fence every week, and cannot possibly pass the senate. There is no point in a constitutional convention of state legislatures as it would require a 2/3 vote of state legislatures to go around the house and senate.
There are not enough states opposed to same sex marriage to get that, you would not even get California ( counted among his 31 states and dropping )
Used to be 50 states that would not recognize same sex marriages, today it is 31 and dropping.
They would not even get 31 states on board and adding 7 is a pipe dream, the momentum is going the other way
Do you people ever read the Constitution. A Constitutional Amendment does not require Congress, it doesn't require Washington DC at all!!

Since: Jan 10

Lewis Center, OH

#190498 Apr 29, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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I second that.
I cannot post "F**k" without asteriks. Rose_NoHo, X-Box and certain other "more equal" posters can.
Drunkty Drunkty posted on the wall.
Drunkty Drunkty had a good bawl.
All the Jack Daniels and whining and insults he could muster
couldn’t stop Drunkty Drunkty from getting banned yet again.
Rusty Angina

East Granby, CT

#190499 Apr 29, 2013
Dusty Mangina wrote:
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They don't exist in your brain, but they do exist in the real world. Sucks to be a senile Kuntmary.
And to b u as well.

Rusty Angina
-Dusty Mangina's cold rusted heart
Rock Hudson

Wooster, OH

#190500 Apr 29, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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Gosh, it must be pretty bad to feel that your rights are being quashed. We gay people wouldn't know ANYTHING about that.
Seems the worm has turned...
Although I have never had any enjoyment out of my position, nor mocked anyone in your positions, I see that I can fully claim the high ground, because you all seem to think that is funny. How very grownup of you, but at least I know that the bias is open and acknowledged. More than X-ed-out is willing to admit.

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