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“Hilltop Park Above All”

Since: Sep 08

Montebello, CA

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#62
Jul 24, 2013
 
Nonsense wrote:
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I don't know. Why not ask the several hundred thousand people who have been living adjacent to and on top of active and inactive oil fields for decades in Long Beach, Brea, Huntington Beach, Signal Hill, Inglewood, Wilmington, Torrance and - oh, yes - Montebello (to name a few)?
Do you know any community that hasn't complained about adjacent oil field operations at some time? Those you mention sure have.
Trash Talk

Los Angeles, CA

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#63
Jul 24, 2013
 
Times Change
Now California's DOOGER has come out against building housing above active oil operations.
Should be "game over"

“Hilltop Park Above All”

Since: Sep 08

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#64
Jul 25, 2013
 
Trash Talk wrote:
Times Change
Now California's DOOGER has come out against building housing above active oil operations.
Should be "game over"
DOGGR - Department of Oil, Gas and Geothermal Resources

“Hilltop Park Above All”

Since: Sep 08

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#65
Jul 25, 2013
 
Trash Talk wrote:
Times Change
Now California's DOOGER has come out against building housing above active oil operations.
Should be "game over"
Haben sie ein 'link'?
Signs of the Times

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Jul 26, 2013
 

“Hilltop Park Above All”

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#67
Jul 26, 2013
 
Signs of the Times wrote:
http://www.sgvtribune.com/news /ci_23726855/monterey-park-may -require-english-like-signs-al l?source=rss_viewed
Montebello???
I haven't heard any complaints about Montebello businesses anywhere near the level of those in Monterey Park.
Demographer

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#68
Jul 27, 2013
 
Perhaps track where the sales office is located for the condos.
In the Mall?
or in Hong Kong
If Hong Kong expect a major shift in Montebello Politics after the build out of the condos.
As deep throat said.
"follow the money"
Theolona Ranger

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#69
Jul 29, 2013
 
Daily News
local school districts look to restore cuts in wake of Prop. 30
Montebello, which is the third-largest school district in L.A. County,
Eighty-five percent of Montebello students live in poverty and about 60 percent are English language learners, according to (deputy superintendent)Revueltas.

Just what prospective purchasers of Deluxe hillside townhomes want to hear.
A housing project of Ticky tacky condos and State regulated quality Section 8 may be more appropriate.
Blinkie

Garden Grove, CA

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#70
Jul 31, 2013
 
Carson has a track of homes that were built on old oil wells. the owners can not sell their homes. This was on the news last night. We need to give that Erin Brokivich a call.
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#71
Jul 31, 2013
 
Blinkie wrote:
Carson has a track of homes that were built on old oil wells. the owners can not sell their homes. This was on the news last night. We need to give that Erin Brokivich a call.
The homes in Carson were constructed on an old oil tank farm (underground oil storage tanks), not oil wells. Big difference.
trash talk

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#72
Jul 31, 2013
 
Big difference- only to nitpickers
Each well has a drill mud sump full of bad stuff
and each well is pipeline to deep down bad stuff
there are major and minor earthquake faults
which is good as the gas and oil is trapped up against the faults to provide pockets that can be accessed by drilling
bad news is that the hills are still uplifting, the faults can be move, allowing the trapped gas and oil and noxious gasses to escape
The Rideout Oil field homes in the Whittier hills show that building over "abandoned" wells is a bad idea.
Building over an active oilfield should be prohibited- and evidently Cal DOGGER agrees.
Just keep drilling and pumping baby

“Hilltop Park Above All”

Since: Sep 08

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#73
Jul 31, 2013
 
Wrong wrote:
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The homes in Carson were constructed on an old oil tank farm (underground oil storage tanks), not oil wells. Big difference.
There definitely is a BIG difference. Storage tanks have a finite amount of oil and gas. Wells have a continual new supply of oil and gas coming up to the surface, and are thus MORE dangerous than mere storage tanks.

Thank you for calling attention to the difference.
Theolona Ranger

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#74
Jul 31, 2013
 
Thanks Trash, Blinkie, Wrong, and 42 yr
I want to express my appreciation to 42 yr North Mtb resident. He is one of the few that evidently has copies of all the documents and has actually read them. Over the years he has had to repeatedly respond to basically the same observations by new visitors to these threads.
Do not shoot the messenger.
Use him as a resource.
Nothing is going to happen till all new documents come out so rehashing the current documents is like beating a dead horse.
Unfortunately the project developer is yet again preparing the new documents.
What is stated or misstated is easy to deal with.
It's what's left out that is tougher to identify.
The City has to review and publish the new EIR and Specific Plan.
However, as trash talk has pointed out, the City is understaffed, How much due diligence they will able to provide to a multi thousand page document is doubtful.
When a City reviews a document and the developer reimburses the City it part of the process that staff may be co-opted.
BVVC Montebello

“Hilltop Park Above All”

Since: Sep 08

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#75
Jul 31, 2013
 
Principles before personalities.

I prefer do discuss the former and ignore the latter.
trash talk

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#76
Aug 1, 2013
 
Staff, having to work closely with any developer or project, sometimes for years tend to "buy in" to a project.
comes with the territory
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Overtime

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#77
Aug 3, 2013
 
I just received a glossy mailer from Cook Hill regarding the Montebello Hllls (condo) project.
The map clearly shows and states that the project has NO access to Montebello except the Montebello blvd. bottleneck.
Fire department and paramedic access is also strangulated.
The unidentified brown patch in the upper left corner is the site of the New Monterey Park Marketplace.
Improvements on Plaza Drive, San Gabriel blvd. and Rosemead are telling.
Montebello's loss
Monterey Park's gain.

“Hilltop Park Above All”

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#78
Aug 3, 2013
 
Overtime wrote:
I just received a glossy mailer from Cook Hill regarding the Montebello Hllls (condo) project.
The map clearly shows and states that the project has NO access to Montebello except the Montebello blvd. bottleneck.
Fire department and paramedic access is also strangulated.
The unidentified brown patch in the upper left corner is the site of the New Monterey Park Marketplace.
Improvements on Plaza Drive, San Gabriel blvd. and Rosemead are telling.
Montebello's loss
Monterey Park's gain.
The mailer's exact words are 'KEY FACT: There will be NO DIRECT VEHICLE ACCESS into the La Merced Neighborhood from the Montebello Hills Community.'

The three Montebello residential areas nearest the proposed condo project are the Neil Armstrong area, Racquet Mountain, and the La Merced Neighborhood. You notice that the flyer is careful not to claim that the proposed project will not improve traffic conditions. Its exact words are 'The plan includes 11 major roadway improvements designed to maintain smooth flowing traffic in and around the Montebello Hills Community.'

Does anyone believe that Montebello Blvd. and San Gabriel now have 'smooth flowing traffic' during school hours and rush hours? What 'improvements' will help with an ADDITIONAL 10,000 or so daily vehicle trips? Their own DEIR says that traffic problems will be an 'unmitigable project impact'. Does anyone believe the flyer actually says anything good for current Montebello residents?
Gridlock

Los Angeles, CA

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#79
Aug 3, 2013
 
I see that Montebello boulevard is show as a solid red line from the project entrance to downtown Montebello.
Exactly like a traffic jam on the freeway.
As overtime points out the only easy access to the housing projects is from the unincorporated L.A. County area of South San Gabriel, but they have no say.
Just more traffic on the way to shop at Rosemead's Walmart.
The 60 freeway and Monterey Park Market place also have easy access.
To get to an emergency in the side of the project nearest Montebello first responders first have to go all the way to the Standard Station at Paramount then come all the way back.
Look at the map.
The more you look the worse the project looks for Montebello.
Why no emergency access to the south end of the project?

“Hilltop Park Above All”

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#80
Aug 3, 2013
 
Gridlock wrote:
The more you look the worse the project looks for Montebello.
Why no emergency access to the south end of the project?
The reason is the overwhelming sentiment of those at the invitation-only meetings with the residents that Cook-Hill held at the Armenian Cathedral facilitated by a certain councilmember about 6 years ago.

While no one that I ever heard at those meeting voiced support for condos in the Hills, the La Merced people were especially in an uproar when they saw a road leading from the proposed project to Poplar in the early drawings.

Since then, this road has been scaled back, first to an 8 foot wide walking/bicycling trail, to an unexplained line on still later drawings, to nothing at all on the still later drawings. However, if you look at the DEIR and some of the developer's website maps, the road/train is still on some of them and not on others.

There is currently emergency access to the southern part of the Hills from Montebello Blvd. just north of Michael Collins Circle and one of the cul-de-sacs north of Los Amigos, along with access from Lincoln in two locations.

“Hilltop Park Above All”

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#81
Aug 3, 2013
 
road/trail, NOT road/train

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