Montebello dependent on imported Wate...

Alhambra, CA

#62 Oct 14, 2013
CBS News just aired a segment on the Metropolitan Water District's concerns about a possible water shortage in the near future. MWD is asking customers to conserve water because supplies are so low.

You can read more here:

Monrovia Patch
MWD Officials Urge Southern Californians to Cut Back on Water Use

“Hilltop Park Above All”

Since: Sep 08

Montebello, CA

#63 Oct 16, 2013
Another dry year could be bad news for California

-LA Times 10/14/13

Water managers Monday urged Californians to step up their conservation efforts, warning that many parts of the state could face water shortages next year if this winter proves to be another dry one.

“Use these dry conditions as a wake-up call,” said Mark Cowin, director of the state Department of Water Resources.

Officials are not ready to declare a statewide drought. And managers of the Metropolitan Water District of Southern California, the region’s wholesaler of imported water, said they have sufficient supplies in regional storage to avoid mandatory cutbacks for at least another year.

But two dry years in a row have pushed water levels in the state’s biggest reservoirs to below normal. Lake Shasta is at 66% of the average for this time of year and Lake Oroville is at 73% of average.

More than a decade of severe drought in the Colorado River basin — the source of about a quarter of urban Southern California’s supplies — has left both Lake Powell and Lake Mead less than half full. The last two years on the Colorado have been among the driest on record in about a century of measurements.

The last time MWD cut deliveries was 2009, when it imposed higher prices on member agencies for water purchases above certain levels. That reduced demand by about 30%, said Jeffrey Kightlinger, MWD’s general manager. But it has since crept back up by about half that amount.

The widespread use of low-flow indoor fixtures helped drive down per capita water use in Southern California in recent decades. The region uses about the same amount of water it did 20 years ago, despite population growth.

Overall, Los Angeles uses less water than it did four decades ago, even though it has added more than 1 million residents during that time. Per person water use in Los Angeles is 123 gallons a day, compared to 187 gallons in the mid 1980s.

Water districts are increasingly focusing their conservation efforts outdoors, which makes up about half of a typical household’s water use.

The Los Angeles Department of Water and Power has increased rebates for residential lawn removal to $2 a square foot. City restrictions on landscape watering adopted several years ago remain in effect. The regulations limit lawn sprinkling to three days a week and ban hosing down driveways and sidewalks.

MWD recently expanded its conservation incentives to include rebates for the installation of rain barrels and soil moisture sensors. The agency board also approved funding to accelerate efforts to develop local supplies, including recycled water, storm water capture and groundwater cleanup.

“We want our use of water in Southern California to remain flat as we continue to add people,” Kightlinger said.“To do that, we’re going to have to get everybody to use a little bit less every single year.

"What happens if we don’t do that?" he added. "It becomes unsustainable.”

“Hilltop Park Above All”

Since: Sep 08

Montebello, CA

#64 Oct 16, 2013
Story by Bettina Boxall
Theolona Ranger

Littleton, CO

#65 Oct 20, 2013

When the Big one comes Montebello may not have Water for six Months
Time for a earthquake hardned waster system
MTB resident

Rosemead, CA

#66 Oct 21, 2013
I like to state that i did my own water tests and let me tell you, Montebello water is borderline to "do not drink" category .
On another matter, I had water leak and had to shot off the water line, there was a foot high dirt on top of water meter that is supposedly checked monthly for usage by Montebello irrigation co.
Concerned Bystander

West Covina, CA

#67 Oct 21, 2013
MTB resident wrote:
I like to state that i did my own water tests and let me tell you, Montebello water is borderline to "do not drink" category .
On another matter, I had water leak and had to shot off the water line, there was a foot high dirt on top of water meter that is supposedly checked monthly for usage by Montebello irrigation co.
Montebello water comes from 5 different companies or groups. The La Merced area gets its water from the Artesian Wells of the San Gabriel Water Company, first dug by the San Gabriel Mission, and is regularly among the top 5 best tasting municipal waters in the country. Some water comes from the DWP, and other water from different sources.

How your tap water tastes depends, in large part, where in Montebello you live.
Theolona ranger

Norwalk, CA

#68 Oct 22, 2013
Thanks for posting bystander
There are no more artesian wells
SGV Water company and others have lowered the basins water table so much that there may not even much left to pump if the drought continues.
There used to be artesian springs in the Whittier narrows- with them dry the aquatic life in them has perished
Anyone else remember the frogs, crayfish, etc.
SGV Water company has not paid to replenish the water it pumped (and it may not have owned rights to all it pumped)
I'd like to see the water table restored to pre Whittier Narrows dam levels
Theolona Ranger

Norwalk, CA

#69 Oct 27, 2013
"“below normal rainfall” "

History makes a strong case for California Delta water plan: Tim Rutten

It also might move you to take a much more serious look at the expansion and overhaul of the California water system that is among Gov. Jerry Brown’s most ambitious — and controversial — proposals.

Southern California is home to 21.5 million people whose demands long ago outstripped local water supplies. By 2020, that number is expected to grow to 26 million.

Meanwhile, the drought conditions through which we’ve been suffering have been generalized across the Mountain West.

The Colorado River’s flow into Lake Mead — on which we depend for a significant share of our water — has been below historic averages for 10 of the past 13 years.

Last week, the National Weather Service’s Oxnard facility issued its formal prediction on the coming winter’s precipitation, and the forecast is for “below normal rainfall” in Southern California and along the Central Coast.

If the prediction is accurate, we’re looking at the third consecutive rainy season in which the moisture level fails to meet recent historical expectations.
Last January and February, in fact, were the driest on record in Los Angeles.

That matters, because 75 percent of our annual rainfall occurs between November and March and half of that usually happens December through February.
Trash talk

Monterey Park, CA

#70 Oct 30, 2013
Water rates are going up folks
don't shoot the messengers- it impedes long term planning

"Weathered in place by wind and water, the resistant block, a Slick Rock member of the Entrada Sandstone formation, "balances" over the less resistant Dewey Bridge member of the Carmel Formation.

These rocks were deposited in the Middle Jurassic Period, about 164 to 161 million years ago. Subsequent weathering of the underlying strata resulted in the formation of unusually shaped blocks that in places are precariously balanced. In the distant background are the snow-capped peaks of the La Sal Mountains, so named by early Spanish explorers who mistook the snow for salt.

These mountains are an important source of water in the area.

A recent study by the Bureau of Reclamation on the impacts of climate change on the basin indicates that the region will become hotter and dryer,

with significant diminishment in Colorado River flow—an important water source for Western states.

Beth Rosner
Publisher, Science
Trash talk

Monterey Park, CA

#71 Oct 30, 2013

The Cortez-backed challengers are running on several issues, including opposition to the 88  percen t, two-year increase in water rates that was approved earlier this year.

Molinari said the city’s water system only serves a small percentage of the city — about 7  percent .

“To suggest to people that water rates are skyrocketing and rates age going up uncontrolled is absolutely false,” Molinari said.

It was the first rate increase since 2004, and city customers still pay less than most others in Montebello, he said.

But (Christina shills))Delgado, Gallarzo and Hernandez said “mismanagement” is the reason for the increase.

“That’s the stuff that happened,” Hernandez said.“Water rates were increased. Mr. Molinari said it only represents a small part of the city. At the end of the day, we mismanaged that water system and it resulted in losses (to the general fund).”

Mismanagement- what mismanagement except that water rates for the City owned water system have not kept up with costs???
meanwhile the SGVH20CO is pumping the wells dry- what then???
Look at the big picture
All of Montebello needs a new water system
and it will not be free
Wonder why

Los Angeles, CA

#72 Oct 31, 2013
Water and transportation will be critical issues in the future. Realistic planning needs to start now. That includes facing the fact that we live in a semi-desert region. Unrealistic water availability studies, like the one San Gabriel Valley Water Company provided for the proposed Montebello Hills Condo project, need to be a thing of the past. At times in the future severe water conservation measures will be necessary. But that should be because of drought or earthquake caused water delivery system issues. It shouldn't be because out-of-town developers and giant oil companies want to make even more money by doing an unwise high density development on top of an active oil field.
Knight Owl

Monterey Park, CA

#73 Oct 31, 2013
Agree with Wonder Why
Another problem with the condo project besides the number of people served on an inadequate, undersized, fragile water system is the lack of adequate storage tanks and the dependence on electrically pumped water for fire fighting.
That is a recipe for disaster as recently shown in Brea and Anaheim Hills
Trash Talk

Monterey Park, CA

#74 Nov 1, 2013
Water management

100 Years of Water: Los Angeles Aqueduct, William Mulholland helped create modern L.A.

Does not Reach Montebello
Trash Talk

Monterey Park, CA

#75 Nov 1, 2013

In a written statement Steinberg said,
“Nothing is more sacred to us as Senators than the public’s trust in the integrity of this institution.
That’s why it is so shocking and disturbing for us to read and hear the allegations presented in these media reports over the last 24 hours.”

“Make no mistake: the assertions made in certain conversations described in this affidavit bear zero resemblance to reality and are a universe apart from how the Legislature that we know and honor every day conducts the people’s business,” he stated.

From one who has his hand out behind his back and doles out patronage.

From one who sold the environmental movement making a deal with Rotsik to exempt his stadium project from CEQA


apologies to Louis Renault
Trash Talk

Monterey Park, CA

#76 Nov 1, 2013

Calderon corruption allegations of the oldest hustle in politics: Opinion

By Los Angeles News Group editorial board

... one of the biggest state legislative scandals in decades, bring down one of the West’s most powerful political families and seriously damage the Latino caucus that it helped build. And guess who will end up paying? Californians.

It’s the oldest hustle in politics.

... Democratic Sen. Ronald Calderon and his older brother have collected more than $1 million in payments in exchange for shaping legislation in the Capitol.

It looks like the old game of the rich paying politicians to write laws that make them even richer. While these cozy relationships, if true, have bulked up the politician’s pocket they have left taxpayers’ a little thinner...

Outrageous would be an understatement.
But it’s only half the story.
Theolona Ranger

Monterey Park, CA

#77 Nov 1, 2013
Another Trash Talk post xposted

What was funny is that Steinberg was shocked-SHOCKED
Who got the big payoffs from Rotski ? ... ...
Theolona Ranger

Woodland Hills, CA

#78 Nov 4, 2013
Los Angeles’ water future remains challenged by drought, short supplies

The West has been dry for millions of years, with hugely varying annual rainfall, climatologists say.
The Southland gets an average of 15 inches a year — enough water to supply 5 million people.
But that can range from the 3 inches that Los Angeles eked by with seven years ago, to the 38 inches dumped on it during an El Niño season.

Longer cycles could bring severe drought.
The 11th century saw an 80-year drought, long enough to wipe out a tribe of pre-Columbian Pueblo peoples. With the exception of a few water heavy storms, it’s been drier than normal for a decade.

With the influx a century ago of Eastern and Midwestern settlers to Los Angeles and Southern California, young cities began to look far afield for a reliable source of water — namely the snowmelt from the High Sierra and eastern Rockies.

What they didn’t realize, according to Southern California climate guru Bill Patzert,
was the 20th century they were entering was among the wettest centuries in 2,000 years.
And that climate change would shorten the mountain snow season, which acts as a frozen reservoir for the region’s water.

“We built a civilization in Southern California based on great water projects — we have the best water infrastructure in any place in the world,” said Patzert, climatologist for the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in La Cañada-Flintridge.
“The problem is, now that we’re 70 percent dependent on imported water,
the snow in the Sierras has been dry for a decade; the Colorado River has been dry for eight years.

“Now everybody wants water in the American Southwest and the water supply in the past decade has decreased.”
Theolona Ranger

Woodland Hills, CA

#79 Nov 4, 2013

Kitty Barfola
• 6 hours ago
What drought?
This is just another scare tactic to jack up water prices to fund their pensions and pay raises.
It's been done before

True Freedom
• 11 hours ago
I have an idea!
Let's build ton's of high density condos,
so that more people can move here and use water.
Oh wait...
Theolona Ranger

Woodland Hills, CA

#80 Nov 6, 2013

November 5, 2013

AM Alert: California panel wades into groundwater policy

With water issues on the agenda for the coming session in the California Legislature, given a pair of 2014 water bond proposals, it's a good time to take a look at groundwater.

Unlike with other bodies on water policy, there is no state-level entity overseeing groundwater withdrawals, despite the pace at which California is depleting some aquifers as well as issues with access to clean drinking water.
Some policymakers, particularly those skeptical about the Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta tunnel project, wonder why we haven't focused more on replenishing and preserving groundwater.

Read more here:

Recall that SGV water Company (and others like Whittier) have been overpumping the groundwater which is at a very low level
Drought conditions
trash talk

Woodland Hills, CA

#81 Nov 7, 2013
California slow to pass along federal water project funds

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