Proposed housing project in Montebello hills may be coming to a head

There are 68 comments on the Whittier Daily News story from Jul 2, 2013, titled Proposed housing project in Montebello hills may be coming to a head. In it, Whittier Daily News reports that:

FILE PHOTO: Oil pumps work in a remote location of the Montebello Hills over looking homes on Tuesday April 15, 2008.

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“Hilltop Park Above All”

Since: Sep 08

Montebello, CA

#62 Jul 20, 2013
As I often (too often, according to some) remind the readers here, the supporters of the proposed condo development ALL ignore the health dangers (not to mention the traffic, fiscal, and other dangers) this 'suicide subdivision' proposal promises.

“Hilltop Park Above All”

Since: Sep 08

Montebello, CA

#63 Jul 20, 2013
Redevelop south Montebello, which already has the streets, sewers, water, electricity, police and fire protection infrastructure. Retail and commercial development is the way for the city to get its fiscal house in order, as shown in EVERY budget the city does.

Also, development in south Montebello has the added benefit of not endangering the lives of thousands of residents as the proposed residential development, surrounded by inflammable chaparral, dowes

'Just say NO' to suicide subdivisions!
theolona ranger

Los Angeles, CA

#64 Jul 20, 2013
Reviewing this weeks posts there is a really clear story in EGP news that leads to clarity for those of you who have not read and understood the Montebello Hills Specific Plan and EIR (or do not want to be enlightened by 42 year resident who has)
First read the story
http://egpnews.com/2013/07/helicopters-help-t...
take a look at the photo
Then read the comments in EGP news that Follow the story

Then read this expose blog

http://themontebellohillsblog.blogspot.com/20 ...

Trash talk then pulled it all together in this thread
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/montebello-ca...
Some sample BS from the Cook Hill consultants
just a sample- from the comment to the story

EIR BS
"The vegetation in the Whitter Narrows Dam area is predominantly a riparian plant community, which is very high in moisture content "
FACT
high moisture content in the winter- Mexican Cane, Bamboo, arundo dries out in the summer and is highly flammable- so are the eucalyptus
Quotes from the EIR BS

" While is is not impossible for these plants to support a wildland fire, if ignited the fire behavior would be very low in heat intensity and would not exhibit extreme fire behavior conditions. Hence, the risk may be real, but the threat is low…"
FACT
see the photo in the story

Now take this small example of EIR BS and extrapolate it to 4,000 pages of EIR.

It's pretty obvious that the EIR was just a pro-forma "fill in the blanks" cut and paste hack job designed to APPEAR to satisfy CEQA where in reality it was a boilerplate document designed to allow cursory review and approval by the Rosie Vasques' regime.
Couple that with PXP planting their hand picked consultants and attorney to prepare and vet the document.
The post 2009 City council replaced the CONFLICTED attorneys with more independent counsel and the EIR is being redrafted but is not yet available.

I requested that ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS on the EIR and Specific Plan be provided to the public.
The public needs to know what needs to be addressed in the new document.
There is no reason not to do this NOW.
Tme is up

Montebello, CA

#65 Jul 24, 2013
Time for the cities elected officials to start doing something rather than saying the same thing every other week about bringing in small business. If we want really small business, might as well talk about Barajas little business. Ridiculous how that false impersonator of a councilman talks as if he knows business when he runs a little mom and pop shirt printing shop practically out of his car. Cortez is another misguided official who doesn't know the least about bringing in industry into the city. This city needs big cash revenues and leaders that know how to think outside the box.
about time

Cerritos, CA

#67 Jul 24, 2013
Tme is up wrote:
Time for the cities elected officials to start doing something rather than saying the same thing every other week about bringing in small business. If we want really small business, might as well talk about Barajas little business. Ridiculous how that false impersonator of a councilman talks as if he knows business when he runs a little mom and pop shirt printing shop practically out of his car. Cortez is another misguided official who doesn't know the least about bringing in industry into the city. This city needs big cash revenues and leaders that know how to think outside the box.
I'll agree with you. But what do you suggest

“Hilltop Park Above All”

Since: Sep 08

Montebello, CA

#68 Jul 24, 2013
Tme is up wrote:
Time for the cities elected officials to start doing something rather than saying the same thing every other week about bringing in small business. If we want really small business, might as well talk about Barajas little business. Ridiculous how that false impersonator of a councilman talks as if he knows business when he runs a little mom and pop shirt printing shop practically out of his car. Cortez is another misguided official who doesn't know the least about bringing in industry into the city. This city needs big cash revenues and leaders that know how to think outside the box.
According to the developer and city staff, the Montebello Hills proposed condo development has drained immense amounts of time from the small development staff of the city that could have been used to revise the General Plan, do retail/commercial outreach, or revise the city's development plans for south Montebello.

If Montebello simply rejects the condo proposal without waiting for the EIR, as they can do by law, then the city can increase their efforts to bring money to the city through sales tax revenue, rather than having city staff wasting time on a money draining project like the MHSP.

As someone who regularly attends city council meetings, I can tell you that all the councilmembers seem to have the goal to improve Montebello's fiscal situation. As Mr. Kosmont said the last time he spoke before the council, however, he said words to the effect that 'it is not clear that the Montebello Hills development will make money for the city at this time.'

It is definitely time to think outside the box of debt that is the proposed condo development and get money generating businesses into the box.
Trash Talk

Los Angeles, CA

#69 Jul 24, 2013
Kosmont said
" Mr. Kosmont said the last time he spoke before the council, however, he said words to the effect that 'it is not clear that the Montebello Hills development will make money for the city at this time.' "

Interesting
I thought that Ksomont was just being fair and even handed when he included the condo project among his "buckets of opportunities" as it was and is a project that is in the proposal stage.

Certainly the developers Economic Impact report raises more questions than it answers.

If the project may not even make money for the city "at this time" it certainly will not later.

“Hilltop Park Above All”

Since: Sep 08

Montebello, CA

#70 Jul 24, 2013
Trash Talk wrote:
Kosmont said
" Mr. Kosmont said the last time he spoke before the council, however, he said words to the effect that 'it is not clear that the Montebello Hills development will make money for the city at this time.' "
Interesting
I thought that Ksomont was just being fair and even handed when he included the condo project among his "buckets of opportunities" as it was and is a project that is in the proposal stage.
Certainly the developers Economic Impact report raises more questions than it answers.
If the project may not even make money for the city "at this time" it certainly will not later.
Mr. Kosmont also said that ALL the underlying assumptions were supplied by the (would-be) developer and that was partially why he couldn't be definitive about the project's cost or benefit to the city.

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