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Concerned Bystander

West Covina, CA

#248 Apr 1, 2014
The General Plan definitely needs to address whether the city will assume the risk for building condos DIRECTLY on top of FIVE earthquake faults, one of which reportedly can generate a 7.0+ quake.

God knows the developer and oil company would be off the hook for liability after a few years. Then who get the financial burden? You guessed it: the residents and taxpayers of the city!!!
Concerned Bystander

West Covina, CA

#249 Apr 1, 2014
Does anyone know how much the hills rose from the most recent quake?

I believe they went up a few inches from the Whittier quake.
trash talk

Rosemead, CA

#250 Apr 2, 2014
Couple of inches, rise was more in Pico Rivera as thrust fault raised whole area --area had just been resurveyed prior to the quake
Will ask Theolona Ranger for details.
5.9 Epicenter was under Rosemead's Wall Mart or SCE Helipad area Walnut Grove x Rush ave
Puente Hills Thrust can generate a 7.5 if whole thing ruptured
4.9-5.1 "Aftershock" is not exactly correct as it really was a "triggered event" on the intersecting Whittier Fault- also could generate a 7.5 if both Whittier and Elsinore (and East Montebello-Alhambra Wash) broke together
Concerned Bystander

West Covina, CA

#251 Apr 2, 2014
trash talk wrote:
Couple of inches, rise was more in Pico Rivera as thrust fault raised whole area --area had just been resurveyed prior to the quake
Will ask Theolona Ranger for details.
5.9 Epicenter was under Rosemead's Wall Mart or SCE Helipad area Walnut Grove x Rush ave
Puente Hills Thrust can generate a 7.5 if whole thing ruptured
4.9-5.1 "Aftershock" is not exactly correct as it really was a "triggered event" on the intersecting Whittier Fault- also could generate a 7.5 if both Whittier and Elsinore (and East Montebello-Alhambra Wash) broke together
Wow! That's enough to concern anyone.
trash talk

Rosemead, CA

#252 Apr 2, 2014
yep- 7.5 on two faults but 7.5 would be rare- use for nukes or hazardous application- and water system
7.2 not so rare- use for everything else
San Andreas can also give great shaking but at longer wavelengths but for a much longer duration and much more frequently.
Montebello fault is unknown but may be stimulated by the others
Remember that the uplift causes (and is shown by) the anticline which runs E-W along the ridge of the Montebello Hills
so it's not just UP it's UP and Spread/ split
Concerned Bystander

West Covina, CA

#253 Apr 2, 2014
trash talk wrote:
yep- 7.5 on two faults but 7.5 would be rare- use for nukes or hazardous application- and water system
7.2 not so rare- use for everything else
San Andreas can also give great shaking but at longer wavelengths but for a much longer duration and much more frequently.
Montebello fault is unknown but may be stimulated by the others
Remember that the uplift causes (and is shown by) the anticline which runs E-W along the ridge of the Montebello Hills
so it's not just UP it's UP and Spread/ split
Isn't there some kind of new law that prevents buildings from being built on top of known earthquake faults? What person in their right mind would want to buy a condo on top of an active fault that would raise their home, probably cracking the foundation and walls?
reality check

Rosemead, CA

#254 Apr 2, 2014
no new laws
Building on an active surface (Whittier and Montebello) fault is prohibited by the building code whether it's in a mapped Alquist-Priola zone or not.
The BIG Whittier Fault does not run under the project, just along the North and East side of the hills. The Montebello fault does.

Buried thrust faults (here the Santa Fe Springs segment Puente Hills Thrust) are not covered except for their potential shaking.
Where the thrust fault comes near the surface (Bellflower) could be a VERY hazardous place to build but danger has not been addressed (it's relatively new)
The buried Puente Hills Thrust fault could very easily have a back thrust (which is shown on cross-sections in professional papers) as suggested by the folding (topography) of the hills and the very existence of the E-W trending Montebello surface fault.
The Montebello fault dips steeply to the North but the back thrust dips south under the proposed project.
reality check

Rosemead, CA

#255 Apr 2, 2014
http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/general-news/...

There have been reports of minor damage and potential gas leaks following a 5.1 earthquake near La Habra, officials said.

Reports of natural gas leaks began flooding in to officials once the shaking stopped, Los Angeles County Fire Department Dispatch Supervisor Ed Pickett said.

“We’ve got reports of lots of gas leaks in the Rowland Heights and La Habra areas,” he said.

Preview of coming attractions
Mtb Political participant

Los Angeles, CA

#256 Apr 8, 2014
glad this whole issue is being brought out in the open...thanks for all the tecnical data and facts.....
Truth squad

Rosemead, CA

#257 Apr 27, 2014
Candidates seeking to replace Los Angeles County Supervisor Zev Yaroslavsky offered competing views on how to cut carbon emissions, clean storm water, replenish local water sources and lure more Angelenos out of their cars during a wide-ranging debate on environmental issues.

Former state lawmaker Sheila Kuehl strongly disagreed with the other candidates. After serving in the state Assembly and Senate for 14 years, including a stint chairing the Natural Resources Committee that overseees the CEQA, she said she sees no need to amend the 44-year-old law.

“Here’s the thing,” Kuehl said.“CEQA does not stop any building. CEQA is about assessing the enivornmental impacts...
What they’re complaining about is that all of these wonderful developments have been held up because they had to obey the California Environmental Quality Act. Well,
I would say boo-hoo.”

The Los Angeles League of Conservation Voters is an influential group that advocates for candidates with environmental credentials.

The league has not yet made an endorsement for Yaroslavksy’s seat -- covering the Westside and the San Fernando Valley -- in the June 3 primary.

For the Eastside seat held by Supervisor Gloria Molina, who like Yaroslavsky must vacate her position because of term limits, the league is backing former U.S. Secretary of Labor Hilda Solis. Kuehl recently received the backing of the Sierra Club.
Truth squad

Rosemead, CA

#258 Apr 27, 2014
Study Suggests ‘Dirty Air’ Clogging Southeast LA County Cities

By Pete Parker and Randy Economy
http://www.loscerritosnews.net/2014/04/23/stu...

A statewide census map has been released by the California Environmental Protection Agency (CEAP) to expose the area’s most laden by pollution, which provides pressure to members of the community with long-term health risks.

The finding show that many local communities in and around Southeast Los Angeles County have scored poorly in regards to the condition of their air quality.

The Diesel particulate matter in the cities of Downey, Montebello, Norwalk, La Mirada, Commerce, Cerritos, Bellflower, Hawaiian Gardens and the City of Lakewood are approximately in the 80-100 percentile of being at risk with contaminants.

Drinking water toxicity in the areas of Cerritos, Artesia, La Palma, Hawaiian Gardens, parts of Bellflower, Downey, Bell Gardens, Commerce and Montebello are near the approximate 80-100 percentile of being at risk with contaminants.

The Ozone concentration of Downey, Bell Gardens, Montebello, Cerritos, Artesia, Hawaiian Gardens, Norwalk, La Habra, La Palma, La Mirada Lakewood, Bellflower and Commerce are in the low percentile range of being at risk with contaminants.

The cities of Downey, Bell Gardens, Montebello, Cerritos, Artesia, Hawaiian Gardens, Norwalk, La Habra, La Palma, La Mirada Lakewood, Bellflower and Commerce are all 100 percent at risk with toxic releases into the air.

Documents obtained by HMG-CN suggest projects could include energy-efficiency upgrades for homes in low-income areas, improvements to bus and rail systems, urban forestry projects and programs to fund cleaner trucks and equipment near ports, rail yards and distribution centers.

If you would like to review, the report based upon the research on the pollution levels please click on the following link.

Draft California Communities Environmental Health Screening Tool 2.0
http://oehha.ca.gov/ej/pdf/CES20PublicReview0...

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