Bush Compares Terrorists To Nazis

Bush Compares Terrorists To Nazis

There are 460 comments on the Cbs13.com story from Aug 31, 2006, titled Bush Compares Terrorists To Nazis. In it, Cbs13.com reports that:

President George W. Bush on Thursday predicted victory in the war on terror at a time when Americans are disillusioned with his strategy, likening the struggle against Islamic fundamentalism with the fight ...

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dudfivers

India

#525 Sep 20, 2006
morhammed faslarrah wrote:
president bush would be an excellent 2nd grade teacher in any public school..He knows how to read books to children of 7 and 8 years old,He knows how to make up stories and then say we thought they have it.and he knows exactly who and which individuals are terrorist...this is our president of the u.s. of 2006..lets all congrtulate him
if you dont like it, go and live in some Islamic hell hole. stop complaining about the West, or dont live in it.
spuds

United States

#526 Sep 20, 2006
dudfivers wrote:
<quoted text>
if you dont like it, go and live in some Islamic hell hole. stop complaining about the West, or dont live in it.
Can't see the forest for the tree aye? well piss up a rope will help.
Victor

Napa, CA

#527 Sep 20, 2006
The BBC has obtained the first pictures of Kurdish soldiers being trained by Israelis in Northern Iraq. The sensitivities for the Kurdish authorities are serious, since their political enemies have long accused them of being in cahoots with Israel. The Kurdish authorities have previously denied allowing any Israelis into northern Iraq.
Danniboy

Melbourne, Australia

#528 Sep 21, 2006
dudfivers wrote:
<quoted text>
if you dont like it, go and live in some Islamic hell hole. stop complaining about the West, or dont live in it.
You know, it never ceases to amaze me how many people parrot this 'love it or get out' crap without even thinking about what they're saying. Consider, for a moment, what you just said Dud...try applying it to another culture/country and see if it stands up to even a modicum of intelligent thought. I like to use the tired old example of 1930s Germany to illustrate this point.

What you're saying is that people of 1930s Germany who didn't like the rising nationalist movement should have simply left their country as opposed to, say, standing up to ensure it didn't descend into madness.

So 'if you don't like it get out' is, in all, a pretty stupid thing to say hey?
Danniboy

Melbourne, Australia

#530 Sep 21, 2006
Victor wrote:
It has been said that, some day, fascism will come to America but under a different name, we are witnessing the beginnings of it. I is likely Rumsfeld will be put on trial in the near future and possibly receive the death penalty
Far too late matey, far too late. Examine, if you will, a definition of fascism and compare it to the US style of governance (at least the current one ).

Wiki defines it as "a radical political ideology that combines elements of corporatism, authoritarianism, nationalism, militarism, anti-anarchism, anti-communism and anti-liberalism."

As far as I can see the current US government ticks of every single one of these attributes. Every. Single. One. But perhaps seven points of similarity are not enough - there are many authoritarian regimes that meet those 7 but avoid the over-used name of 'fascist'.

Let's try John T. Flynn, an old US right-wing journalist who wrote, in 1944,:

"The test of fascism is not one’s rage against the Italian and German war lords. The test is – how many of the essential principles of fascism do you accept and to what extent are you prepared to apply those fascist ideas to American social and economic life? When you can put your finger on [1] the men or the groups that urge for America the debt-supported state,[2] the autarchial corporative state,[3] the state bent on the socialization of investment and [4] the bureaucratic government of industry and society,[5] the establishment of the institution of militarism as the great glamorous public-works project of the nation and [6] the institution of imperialism under which it proposes to regulate and rule the world and, along with this,[7] proposes to alter the forms of our government to approach as closely as possible the unrestrained, absolute government – then you will know you have located the authentic fascist.

"But let us not deceive ourselves into thinking that we are dealing by this means with the problem of fascism. Fascism will come at the hands of [8]perfectly authentic Americans,[9] as violently against Hitler and Mussolini as the next one, but who are [10] convinced that the present economic system is washed up and that the present political system in America has outlived its usefulness and [11] who wish to commit this country to the rule of the bureaucratic state; [12] interfering in the affairs of the states and cities; [13] taking part in the management of industry and finance and agriculture; [14] assuming the role of great national banker and investor,[15] borrowing millions every year and spending them on all sorts of projects through which such a government can paralyze opposition and command public support; [16] marshaling great armies and navies at crushing costs to support the industry of war and preparation for war which will become our greatest industry; [17] and adding to all this the most romantic adventures in global planning, regeneration, and [18] domination all to be done under the authority of a powerfully centralized government in which the executive will hold in effect all the powers with Congress reduced to the role of a debating society. There is your fascist. And the sooner America realizes this dreadful fact the sooner it will arm itself to make an end of American fascism masquerading under the guise of the champion of democracy."

To the best of my perception, the current US government also ticks off every single one of these elements except perhaps [3]. So, in total, the current US government ticks of 24 of 25 hallmarks of fascism - 18 of which were predicted by a well respected, right-wing US journalist.

That's pretty amazing isn't it? Not exactly news but amazing nonetheless and definitely worth some thought.
Matrix CA

Shalvey, Australia

#531 Sep 21, 2006
Danniboy wrote:
<quoted text>
You know, it never ceases to amaze me how many people parrot this 'love it or get out' crap without even thinking about what they're saying. Consider, for a moment, what you just said Dud...try applying it to another culture/country and see if it stands up to even a modicum of intelligent thought. I like to use the tired old example of 1930s Germany to illustrate this point.
What you're saying is that people of 1930s Germany who didn't like the rising nationalist movement should have simply left their country as opposed to, say, standing up to ensure it didn't descend into madness.
So 'if you don't like it get out' is, in all, a pretty stupid thing to say hey?
Mate, we can not expect the great majority of Americans to have the same intellectual capacity as those from other countries. They are being led by a President who can not read or write english good (Zoolander).
Bill R

Long Island, WA

#532 Sep 21, 2006
Matrix CA wrote:
<quoted text>
Mate, we can not expect the great majority of Americans to have the same intellectual capacity as those from other countries. They are being led by a President who can not read or write english good (Zoolander).
Uh, it is "write English well."
Bill R

Long Island, WA

#533 Sep 21, 2006
Danniboy wrote:
<quoted text>
Far too late matey, far too late. Examine, if you will, a definition of fascism and compare it to the US style of governance (at least the current one ).
Wiki defines it as "a radical political ideology that combines elements of corporatism, authoritarianism, nationalism, militarism, anti-anarchism, anti-communism and anti-liberalism."
As far as I can see the current US government ticks of every single one of these attributes. Every. Single. One. But perhaps seven points of similarity are not enough - there are many authoritarian regimes that meet those 7 but avoid the over-used name of 'fascist'.
Let's try John T. Flynn, an old US right-wing journalist who wrote, in 1944,:
"The test of fascism is not one’s rage against the Italian and German war lords. The test is – how many of the essential principles of fascism do you accept and to what extent are you prepared to apply those fascist ideas to American social and economic life? When you can put your finger on [1] the men or the groups that urge for America the debt-supported state,[2] the autarchial corporative state,[3] the state bent on the socialization of investment and [4] the bureaucratic government of industry and society,[5] the establishment of the institution of militarism as the great glamorous public-works project of the nation and [6] the institution of imperialism under which it proposes to regulate and rule the world and, along with this,[7] proposes to alter the forms of our government to approach as closely as possible the unrestrained, absolute government – then you will know you have located the authentic fascist.
"But let us not deceive ourselves into thinking that we are dealing by this means with the problem of fascism. Fascism will come at the hands of [8]perfectly authentic Americans,[9] as violently against Hitler and Mussolini as the next one, but who are [10] convinced that the present economic system is washed up and that the present political system in America has outlived its usefulness and [11] who wish to commit this country to the rule of the bureaucratic state; [12] interfering in the affairs of the states and cities; [13] taking part in the management of industry and finance and agriculture; [14] assuming the role of great national banker and investor,[15] borrowing millions every year and spending them on all sorts of projects through which such a government can paralyze opposition and command public support; [16] marshaling great armies and navies at crushing costs to support the industry of war and preparation for war which will become our greatest industry; [17] and adding to all this the most romantic adventures in global planning, regeneration, and [18] domination all to be done under the authority of a powerfully centralized government in which the executive will hold in effect all the powers with Congress reduced to the role of a debating society. There is your fascist. And the sooner America realizes this dreadful fact the sooner it will arm itself to make an end of American fascism masquerading under the guise of the champion of democracy."
To the best of my perception, the current US government also ticks off every single one of these elements except perhaps [3]. So, in total, the current US government ticks of 24 of 25 hallmarks of fascism - 18 of which were predicted by a well respected, right-wing US journalist.
That's pretty amazing isn't it? Not exactly news but amazing nonetheless and definitely worth some thought.
I guess it is okay by you, given your embrace of
Wikipedia and the definition of a certain dead guy
named Flynn from 1944 during World War II. If that
is the definition you needed to support your beliefs,
go for it. But no, its not worth a whole of thought.
Would it be permissible to quote a dead guy from
1944 who thought differently?
Bill R

Long Island, WA

#536 Sep 21, 2006
Steve wrote:
<quoted text>
Dannyboy:
Some good points here. Bush has set our Nation back 50 years in its social development. He has promoted the corporation over the people, profit over people, but the corps turned around and bit him in the ass. Millions of the best jobs in the US have been moved off shore by the corps that this clown favored. And now they have turned out to be his/our real enemy. But all of that village idiots mis steps can not diminish the fact that we are at war with the Muz.
Uh, Steve .... remember NAFTA, the WTO, and such
were all begun under Clinton. Off-shore manufacturing
and purchasing have been around for years now. Get
a grip.
Matrix CA

Shalvey, Australia

#539 Sep 21, 2006
Steve wrote:
<quoted text>
And you can get stuffed, mate. You sit in your country and cast dispersions at the US people, you must be some kind of moron. You have the same social problems there as we do here, so you may want to tend to your own problems before you cast stones at ours. Know what I mean there Hugo.
You vote for an idiot and then expect a worldwide parade.

Im not the only one who feels negatively about Americans (in the recent years). The majority of non-Americans feel the same way, as do a minority of those living in the US.

You can blame the re-surgence of anti-American sentiment on your dear friend GWB and his international policies (or the lack-thereof).
farkle NYState

Brockport, NY

#540 Sep 21, 2006
Bill R wrote:
<quoted text>
Way It Is (Or the Way They Told You It Was)-
Rather than use the tired neo-progressive rant
about Bush went to Iraq for the oil, I'd like
you to drop your repeating what you accept without
verification and do a little research.
How much oil was the U.S. getting from Iraq
before taking out Saddam?
Now, after the removal of Saddam, how much oil
is the U.S. getting from Iraq?
When you get the answers to those questions you'll
realize how dumb it is to claim we went to Iraq
for the oil. You really should learn to read other
sources before drinking from the cup of liberal
whine.
Oh....also take a look to see how much oil France
and Germany were getting before the Oil for Food
program was exposed as a "build me another palace"
scam.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Just because we did not get the oil, doesn't mean we did not go there for it.
The irony is that if we had left after topling S Hussein, we would probably now be enjoying (and wasting) the oil, but we stayed to do the impossible: democratize a non-country with no democratic traditions or experience, so now we are the occupying army and the target for all their frustration and anger.
Matrix CA

Shalvey, Australia

#541 Sep 21, 2006
farkle NYState wrote:
<quoted text>
Just because we did not get the oil, doesn't mean we did not go there for it.
The irony is that if we had left after topling S Hussein, we would probably now be enjoying (and wasting) the oil, but we stayed to do the impossible: democratize a non-country with no democratic traditions or experience, so now we are the occupying army and the target for all their frustration and anger.
I take back my negative remarks made about Americans.

Thank you.
Danniboy

Melbourne, Australia

#542 Sep 21, 2006
Bill R wrote:
<quoted text>
I guess it is okay by you, given your embrace of
Wikipedia and the definition of a certain dead guy
named Flynn from 1944 during World War II. If that
is the definition you needed to support your beliefs,
go for it. But no, its not worth a whole of thought.
Would it be permissible to quote a dead guy from
1944 who thought differently?
Indeed it would - provided you quote from a guy who was commenting on the same thing: the nature of fascism.

Please look up any random definition/commentary on the nature of fascism (as I did - I had previously never heard of John T Flynn) and list it for us and examine whether the hallmarks of fascism are present in the US govt.

And while you're doing so, I would be truly interested to hear why you think your government is not worth a single moment of critical consideration (critical meaning 'a careful and exact evaluation and judgement')- ESPECIALLY in the face of a claim like 'all obervable facts, when compared to accepted definitions, seem to indicate the US government is fascist'. I mean, that's a stupendously ambitious claim - surely you want to think about it a bit just to see if the facts really DO back it up and the accepted definitions really ARE so applicable.

If you are going to make blanket statements that people should not even THINK I'd say you need to back that up with some heavy argument, regardless of wherever you got such an idea.
Danniboy

Melbourne, Australia

#543 Sep 21, 2006
Steve wrote:
<quoted text>
And you can get stuffed, mate. You sit in your country and cast dispersions at the US people, you must be some kind of moron. You have the same social problems there as we do here, so you may want to tend to your own problems before you cast stones at ours. Know what I mean there Hugo.
1) We're casting Aspertions at the States, not dispersions (disparaging remarks vs distributions).

2) Please indicate which of our common social problems you refer to. Highest debt in the entire world? Most rapidly increasing rate of debt in entire world? Lack of social welfare? Monoculture of 'war' and love of guns? High murder rate for a developed country? High poverty for developed nation? Low literacy and numberacy for developed nation? Higher infant mortality than certain African nations? Imperialist drive and singularly dismal and violent foreign policy? Government consisting of signatories to a group called the PNAC that has openly stated they wish to take over the world using military? Oh wait - this isn't my country at all.

Perhaps you were referring to racism, environmental issues and starting wars for patently false reasons? Granted - these are issues on which our countries' governments see eye to eye - although one couldn't say the Australian one starts wars or ignores environmental issues so much as adopts the American lead 100%. Gee - did I just hit upon the reason so many of my country seek to change your government's ways? Yes, perhaps it is - that many of us actually know and see what our problems are and realise a change in our government is worth piss-all when the US is trying to call the tune of the entire world.
Danniboy

Melbourne, Australia

#544 Sep 21, 2006
Re my last post, I would like to point out how much the US murder rate has dropped in the last 2 decades. While large urban centres haven't changed much and the rate of murders by children has risen by 50% the overall murder rate has nearly halved. That doesn't always get pointed out (nor does the fact that, if one considers all types of crime including minor thefts, burglaries and white collar, Australia is around about 1st in the world per capita. 40-ish for murder but very high for all crime. To some degree, however, this reflects that Australians are also among the most likely to report a crime to the police. Gotta be careful about drawing conclusions from stats. Strangely enough, Australians also rate in the top 10 for feeling safe).

I'll trade burglaries and feeling safe for murders and living in perpetual fear of amorphous, hyped threats any day.
spuds

United States

#545 Sep 21, 2006
Danniboy wrote:
Re my last post, I would like to point out how much the US murder rate has dropped in the last 2 decades. While large urban centres haven't changed much and the rate of murders by children has risen by 50% the overall murder rate has nearly halved. That doesn't always get pointed out (nor does the fact that, if one considers all types of crime including minor thefts, burglaries and white collar, Australia is around about 1st in the world per capita. 40-ish for murder but very high for all crime. To some degree, however, this reflects that Australians are also among the most likely to report a crime to the police. Gotta be careful about drawing conclusions from stats. Strangely enough, Australians also rate in the top 10 for feeling safe).
I'll trade burglaries and feeling safe for murders and living in perpetual fear of amorphous, hyped threats any day.
When George has everything here fixed he is planning on yours.
Bertt

Frenchville, PA

#546 Sep 21, 2006
Matrix CA wrote:
<quoted text>
You vote for an idiot and then expect a worldwide parade.
Im not the only one who feels negatively about Americans (in the recent years). The majority of non-Americans feel the same way, as do a minority of those living in the US.
You can blame the re-surgence of anti-American sentiment on your dear friend GWB and his international policies (or the lack-thereof).

AMEN!! It is not the Muslims any longer, it is the world.

WASHINGTON (Reuters)- One of President George W. Bush's fiercest political opponents at home took his side on Thursday, calling Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez a "thug" for his remark that Bush is like the devil.

"Hugo Chavez fancies himself a modern day Simon Bolivar but all he is an everyday thug," House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi said at a news conference, referring to Chavez' comments in a U.N. General Assembly speech on Wednesday.

"Hugo Chavez abused the privilege that he had, speaking at the United Nations," said Pelosi, a frequent Bush critic. "He demeaned himself and he demeaned Venezuela."

Simon Bolivar led the fight for independence against Spanish rule in several South American countries in the early 19th century and is cited by Chavez as a political model.

Chavez, a vociferous critic of Bush and the United States, has allied himself with U.S. opponents Cuba and Iran and has led a resurgence of left-wing populism in Latin America.

"The devil himself is right in the house. And the devil came here yesterday. Right here," Chavez said as he stood at the U.N. podium where Bush spoke the day before.

"It smells of sulfur still today, this table that I am now standing in front of," Chavez said.

His remarks drew applause from many of the delegates.

His remarks drew applause from many of the delegates.

His remarks drew applause from many of the delegates.


*** This also heppened last time Chavez spoke. The "world" applauded.***
That is when Pat Robertson, the apostate Christian, said to kill Chavez.


Bush administration officials have not responded directly to Chavez's remarks.

It is Bush, who has started the new " Fourth Reich".
Bertt

Frenchville, PA

#548 Sep 22, 2006
Steve wrote:
<quoted text>
How can you compair the two? We have 300 Million here, you have 20 Million. Of course it will be different, ya stup..... Try Canada. Your ignorant rants will go over better there. Feeling safe is not a indication of safty, but more an indication of security. The gang rapes by the Muz in your country must stop, but then you know that already.

Excuuuuuse me? Gang rapes?


http://www.wxow.com/News/index.php...
Wis. girl victimized by sexual assaults
AP Photo: The home where court records allege an 11-year old girl was the victim of repeated...
MILWAUKEE - An 11-year-old girl was sexually assaulted by as many as 20 boys as a 16-year-old girl watched and told her what sex acts to perform, authorities say in the latest mob attack to rock Milwaukee and set off another round of civic soul-searching."It almost leaves me speechless. It is just senseless acts of violence. It is inhumane. It is embarrassing to the city of Milwaukee and its people.... There should be outrage," Barbara Nuell-Moore, director of the neighborhood-improvement group Project Respect.
The 16-year-old girl and a 15-year-old boy have been charged in juvenile court in the alleged attack, which authorities say took place Monday in a house on the city's north side. A 40-year-old man said in court papers to have confessed to having sex with the child may also be charged, authorities said.
As for the others,"we're dealing with a lot of nicknames so we're trying to track down these people," said prosecutor Matthew Torbeson.
Numerous violent crimes have shocked the city this summer, starting with a Memorial Day weekend in which 28 people were shot. Homicides overall are down this year, but two other categories of violent crime are up from 2005 — assaults by 22 percent and robberies by 36 percent, Police Chief Nan Hegerty told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.
Hegerty's spokeswoman said the chief had no comment on the alleged gang rape.
According to court papers, the 11-year-old girl told police she was interested romantically in the 16-year-old girl, who looked and dressed like a boy.
The alleged victim and two friends went to the 16-year-old's house, where the child performed oral sex on three teenage boys, according to court papers. The 40-year-old uncle of the 16-year-old admitted he also had sex with the 11-year-old and told police that the 16-year-old was directing the child, the papers said.
The 11-year-old then went to the basement, where there were about 15 males and she told police she "began to choose who she wanted to perform oral sex on," court papers said.
Several mob attacks have taken place in Milwaukee's inner city in recent years. In 2002, more than a dozen people, mostly boys, chased a man through the streets and beat him to death with shovel handles, rakes and tree limbs.
A mentally ill man died after being beaten and robbed by a group in 2004. Four days after that attack, a 14-year-old boy was kicked, punched and hit on the head with a piece of lumber after he exchanged words with a girl. He was in a coma for two weeks. Also that summer, four brothers were beaten by a group armed with bats, bottles, sticks and socks stuffed with canned food."If all those brains couldn't get together and figure out that was a baby?" he said, adding he has a 3-year-old daughter."I don't have no respect or no love for people who do that." He added:"Whatever they get, they got it coming."
Just what is it that makes America "great"? These horrific crimes occur in other Nations, but they are usually third world, peasant Nations.
Worse, these types of crimes happen by far, so much more in America, than any other Nation

Belzebub

United States

#551 Sep 22, 2006
Bertt wrote:
<quoted text>
Excuuuuuse me? Gang rapes?
http://www.wxow.com/News/index.php...
Wis. girl victimized by sexual assaults
AP Photo: The home where court records allege an 11-year old girl was the victim of repeated...
MILWAUKEE - An 11-year-old girl was sexually assaulted by as many as 20 boys as a 16-year-old girl watched and told her what sex acts to perform, authorities say in the latest mob attack to rock Milwaukee and set off another round of civic soul-searching."It almost leaves me speechless. It is just senseless acts of violence. It is inhumane. It is embarrassing to the city of Milwaukee and its people.... There should be outrage," Barbara Nuell-Moore, director of the neighborhood-improvement group Project Respect.
The 16-year-old girl and a 15-year-old boy have been charged in juvenile court in the alleged attack, which authorities say took place Monday in a house on the city's north side. A 40-year-old man said in court papers to have confessed to having sex with the child may also be charged, authorities said.
As for the others,"we're dealing with a lot of nicknames so we're trying to track down these people," said prosecutor Matthew Torbeson.
Numerous violent crimes have shocked the city this summer, starting with a Memorial Day weekend in which 28 people were shot. Homicides overall are down this year, but two other categories of violent crime are up from 2005 — assaults by 22 percent and robberies by 36 percent, Police Chief Nan Hegerty told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.
Hegerty's spokeswoman said the chief had no comment on the alleged gang rape.
According to court papers, the 11-year-old girl told police she was interested romantically in the 16-year-old girl, who looked and dressed like a boy.
The alleged victim and two friends went to the 16-year-old's house, where the child performed oral sex on three teenage boys, according to court papers. The 40-year-old uncle of the 16-year-old admitted he also had sex with the 11-year-old and told police that the 16-year-old was directing the child, the papers said.
The 11-year-old then went to the basement, where there were about 15 males and she told police she "began to choose who she wanted to perform oral sex on," court papers said.
Several mob attacks have taken place in Milwaukee's inner city in recent years. In 2002, more than a dozen people, mostly boys, chased a man through the streets and beat him to death with shovel handles, rakes and tree limbs.
A mentally ill man died after being beaten and robbed by a group in 2004. Four days after that attack, a 14-year-old boy was kicked, punched and hit on the head with a piece of lumber after he exchanged words with a girl. He was in a coma for two weeks. Also that summer, four brothers were beaten by a group armed with bats, bottles, sticks and socks stuffed with canned food."If all those brains couldn't get together and figure out that was a baby?" he said, adding he has a 3-year-old daughter."I don't have no respect or no love for people who do that." He added:"Whatever they get, they got it coming."
Just what is it that makes America "great"? These horrific crimes occur in other Nations, but they are usually third world, peasant Nations.
Worse, these types of crimes happen by far, so much more in America, than any other Nation
Hey, sounds like fun and I always thought Milwaukee is boring
Danniboy

Melbourne, Australia

#552 Sep 25, 2006
Steve wrote:
<quoted text>
How can you compair the two? We have 300 Million here, you have 20 Million. Of course it will be different, ya stup..... Try Canada. Your ignorant rants will go over better there. Feeling safe is not a indication of safty, but more an indication of security. The gang rapes by the Muz in your country must stop, but then you know that already.
Yes, that's why I speak per capita rather than overall numbers and understand economics of scale - because the populations are so divergent. Otherwise one would think India was the most highly policed yet most murderous place on earth.

Yes, gang rapes must stop - rapes of any kind for that matter. But your implication that muslims in Australia are responsible for some particularly high level of rapes is 100% completely false. No doubt you heard about the spate of gang rapes a couple of years ago in Sydney that were committed by 2 groups of arabic/persian men. They are now in jail.

But this is no basis for a conclusion that muslims rape women more often - especially when you reflect on the fact that less than 1 in 6 rapes is committed by a stranger. That is even less if you're just talking rapes against women. The VAST majority of rapes against women are committed by a father, brother, uncle, husband or boyfriend. This is not limited to any nationality or ethnicity.

I have a friend who did her Masters in Psych on the geographic behaviour of serial rapists and she discovered that location plays a huge role in the prevalence of rape - suggested conclusion being higher rape rates are contributed to by learning more than than inherent tendencies (eg. endemic rape and abuse in some portions of the Australian indigenous population but not in others. It ain't being Koorie that makes you likely to rape kids, it's being raped as a kid or seeing other people do it).

And I'll allow myself some flattery here by saying my rants are not ignorant. Don't flatter yourself by thinking they are.

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