I don't believe for a minute the jury did not listen to the evidence.Those text message ane very hard to fake.And would take an expert to do. belive me when Brent meet Debby they were texting all the time.he got in trouble at work for texting on the shop floor several times.My opinion is also shared by most people.i feel sorry for Brent but i don't think for a second that he was set up.<quoted text>I agree with what you say about hours of nothing, I also don't feel the prosecutor proved his case, if I had to find two people guilty based off the evidence that was presented, not guilty. I feel the jury just wanted to be done and go home. My opinion is shared by many.
David Grimm was asleep when he was attacked with a claw hammer. Now, Snohomish County prosecutors say his ex-girlfriend Debra Canady and her new boyfriend, Brent Starr, orchestrated the vicious attack not only ...
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#112 Aug 11, 2009
#113 Aug 11, 2009
Back to basics:
Hammer: 20+ times = Anger not Robbery or....
SMS TEXT: Lack of understanding of current technology...
Video: Time of morning does not equal usual pattern for Brent - Video proves he was there 'around the time of the murder'....
Even if he did not do it 'he was in the neighborhood'.... How did he explain that in court? Beyond any stupid statement that he 'was' a free American, and do what the hell he wants anytime he wants... That is old...
Question: WHY WAS HE THERE SO EARLY.... Can he work prove he actually was into work early for a reason (other than "I loved my job and wanted to come in early to continue to be a GREAT employee".... I am sure he came in early so may times before, however not on a day when someone he knew was murdered....
Think of this: In order to get to the Red Barn by 4:05 he would have had to have gotten up earlier to get ready..... That would be maybe 45 minutes to an hour.... that would mean he would have had to gone to bed earlier to get up earlier.... And again WHY? It makes no real sense!!!
The SMS back and forth are so interesting.....
They are so stupid, and they lead a trail right to themselves.
"IF" expert SMS witnesses said that SMS can be faked or spoofed they are not experts...
If I could cut-n-paste screen shots and show you just how SMS works I would.... I don't think I have to go that far:
Again, it is called Math (earlier conversation)....
"IF" Brent was the one that got married in prison why again did he do that?
And why did whoever marry him?
As far as the jury listening..... Cases are won and lost by just a few facts...
When the jury heard enough of the facts why would they need to continue to hear from the defense about 40 other ways this could have been done.
Debby's Lawyer was an Idiot! Her tack was transparent.... She was stirring up everyone just to throw everyone off the scent....
She also did not do a good job!
She was part of Debby's problem.
Anyway, has anyone heard how either of them are doing in prison?
#114 Aug 11, 2009
All these people who think they were set up or framed. keep saying the same thing the state did not prove it's case.wrong the state did prove it's case. Brent and Debby were just really stupid and very easy to convict.That is why a jury of there peers found them guilty in three hours.
#115 Aug 12, 2009
Come ON! Help me with the 'reason' Starr was at the Red Barn again....
As he put it he goes there before work...
"He said hed left Gold Bar at about 3:45, and had made his usual stop at the Monroe Red Barn gas station at about 4 a.m. on his way 'to' work".
1st SMS Text at 3:46am:its done, read the first one, sent at 3:46 a.m.- Ummmmm
So, 2 Questions hit me real quick, and these can be proven one way or another... No bias involved...
1) How often did he go to the Red Barn before work?
2) How often did he go to the Red Barn before at 4am?
To me it is odd that he was at the Red Barn just after the 'spoofed' SMS Text Messages were sent...
Ummmm.... Not only was Starr set up - they knew the exact time he would be at the Red Barn (4am) before work, so he could be video taped.... Again, WOW! Maybe if he had just slept in that morning, and not so eager to go to work to be a GREAT EMployee, he would be a free man..
So, Basically this is also where I got the "Guilty"... this is the "ACTIONS": part I talked about in an eariler email (Motive: Opportunity: Actions).
So again, Murder 3:30'ish.... Red Barn 4am... Starr's 'usual work start time (I heard not 4am).
And his work was not 2 hours away...- Ummmm
Other SMS Court Evidence:
Was it quiet
mostly then he thought I was (somebody else)
U may have to toss yr clothes if they come to question you then Erase yr phone
I left the trailer at 3:45 ok
make sure you lock the door when you lreave please. Love u baby.
Love you too."
He said that "he did have a key to the home" = Opportunity = B-I-N-G-O!
Any lights going off yet?
Motive: No brainer here....$$$/ He was a "Bad Person" / Pictures / Living Situation
Pick one you know, or like.....
Any fingerprints on the doorknob? Guess what I thinking... "No ones prints on the doorknow"..
Right...? As if no one used the knob...
Not just anyone - No One!!! Right???
Help me I am wanting to hear from persons in the know... Maybe Debby herself or Starr...
My questions are not hard.
I am not on any side.
These facts are hard to just walk away from...
#116 Aug 12, 2009
even if they found prints or DNA on the scene of the crime. Starr lived there part time.when you ask these questions all of starr and debby's friends clam up they know he is guilty there's no doubt about it!
#117 Aug 13, 2009
So, Lastly - Does anybody in Sultan still talk about this or has everyone moved on?
I am guessing they have moved on.
They don't like what occurred, and everyone is sad, and in full agreement that Murder was a extreem thing to happen.... Right....
No one is saying he deserved it...and "I wish I had done it 1st".... right....
That would be a bit much....
Anyway, I guess I ran out of thoughts here, so enough of this for now unless you all have new things or want to go over old ground....
#118 Aug 16, 2009
Why put a name. We all just need to let it go
now and move on. I fell sorry for all the familys
that were effected by this. All the children.
They will have to live with this for the rest of there lives. Be kind to them.God Bless them
#119 Aug 17, 2009
#120 Aug 17, 2009
yes i agree but he was convicted for a reason. cause he did it
#121 Aug 22, 2009
this woman is insane debbie is a woman who did meth- horses and only god knows what else
#122 Aug 24, 2009
Hello Who Cares...
I think we have reached the end of this blog conversation.
Anything more from either of us is reduntant.
I think you made all the points you needed too.
#123 Nov 24, 2009
Obviously you dont know debbie very well or else you are in denial..they have proof that she was in on it!! maybe she didnt acually do the deed but the bitch planned it. text measages prooved it!! so yes there is a way that she was in on it she is a crazy bitch so just face it! and anyone who is sick enough to do this to someone should be judged and besides im sure debbie judges people too. I hope that she gets her ass kicked in prison or dies from some decease of some sort and rots in hell!! nasty bitch!!
#124 Nov 30, 2009
SERIOUSLY MAN, I KNOW YOU BUT YOU DONT KNOW ME.. AND THATS PROLLY A GREAT THING NOW IM SORRY OF WHAT HAPPEND AND HOW YOUR FAMILY WAS TORE APART AND HOW YOU ALL LOST THE HOUSE AND ALL BUT MAN STOP STICKING UP FOR YOUR MOM.. ITS CALLED DENIAL HUNNY WE ALL HAVE SOME OF THAT.. THERE IS PROOF OF WHAT WENT ON AND YA MAYBE SHE DIDNT ACUALLY DO IT BUT SHE WAS AN ACCOMPLIS AND SHE PLANNED IT OUT. YOU ALL CANT KEEP STICKING UP FOR HER AS MUCH AS YOU LOVE HER SHE DID WRONG AND NOW SHE IS PAYING FOR IT. AS HARD AS IT IS TO BELIEVE IT HAPPEND AND ITS OVER WITH AND DAVID IS GONE AND YA HE MIGHT BE A LITTLE SICK IN THE HEAD BUT MURDER IS EVEN SICKER. AND THE WAY HE WAS MURDERED IS WORSE THEN JUST SHOOTING HIM IN THE HEARD DAMN. IM GLAD IT WASNT MY STEP DAD THAT WAS THE ONE SHE DECIDED TO KILL!!! THERES A HINT WHO THIS IS *MALAYA* I HOPE THAT LIFE GOES GOOD FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND HOPE THAT THIS SHIT DONT HAPPEN AGAIN HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!!
#125 Nov 30, 2009
UMMM IM PRETTY SURE THE HOUSE GOT TAKEN!!!
#126 Nov 30, 2009
WOW MALAYA CALM DOWN!!! HERE IN WASHINGTON IF YOU KNOW ABOUT SHIT YOU GET IN TROUBLE TO AND IF DAVID WAS DOING SHIT THAT WAS SOOOOO WRONG OR SICK YOU SHOULD HAVE TURNED HIM IN... YOUR MOM DID THAT SHIT TOO LIKE HAVING SEX WITH THE ANIMALS ALL HE WAS DOING WAS TAKING THE PICS THEY ARE BOTH NASTY THATS JAIL TIME RIGHT THERE. THEY WERE BOTH IN THE WRONG BUT NOW DAVID IS DEAD SO HE DIDNT GET IN TROUBLE AND IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHING STUPID DONT SEND A FU*KING TEXT THOSE ARE RECOVERABLE DUHHHH!!
#127 Dec 26, 2009
these people are never going to admit that brent and debby are guilty. the fact is they are both in prison for the next 26.5 years cause they were found guilty by a jury of there peers.and yes Malaya your mother did horses and dog she is a very sick person.
#128 Jan 21, 2010
Brent stopped at the red barn every morning (minus the very rare missed days from off beat mornings). He is diabetic and always made sure to pick up his diet sodas for work that day. his stopping there was no by any means unusual.
food for thought: if brent sent out that morning 2 murder someone why would he ask my mom 2 bring him a pair of pants all the way from gold bar? brent never left any clothes at our house so he would of known that he had nothing to change into.
I cleaned the aftermath of that room and i can tell you with out a shadow of doubt that he would of needed more than a pair of pants.
the dumbass detectives are trying 2 paint the picture that brent stopped in at my mothers killed a man with my grandmother sleeping downstairs. managed to clean himself up without getting any blood anywhere. "find clothes" and changed and show up at the red barn all calm and collected. YA RIGHT. men have this thing call adrenaline and once its pumping its hard 2 get it to just turn off. let alone think calmly and rationally. all you have to have is common sense (which obviously snohomish county sherriff's nor the district attorney possess) to see that the detectives failed to do their job and follow evidence. they only came to my house and collected evidence that fit their theories. any other evidence was over looked anything that might prove them wrong was thrown out.
this county sickens me. our wonderful officers upholding the law by not doing their jobs sickens me. you didnt get to hear how they came with a search warrant for all hammers in my house and not even 2 mins after watching them toss my home for the 3rd time did i lift one shirt that they had tossed in the middle of my moms room, did i find a what looked like a hammer on one side, a hatchet on the other, and a crow bar on top. I bagged the evidence (that they later took in their 4th toss of my home) and did their job for them. so please stop trying to understand how they could of done this and focus on why it doesnt make sense on how they could of. My mom is the one that taught me that life is never that bad. take a breath and a step back and look at all your options. there is always a way...murder not being one of them. i wish you people could of gotten to know my mom. then you see what i know to believe as the truth.
#129 Feb 17, 2010
YES BRENT STOPED BY THE RED BARN EVERYDAY BUT NOT AT 4:01AM HE DID NOT SHOW UP AT WORK UNTILL 6:AM IT IS ABOUT A TWENTY MINUTE DRIVE. BRENT WAS ALSO BRAGGING AT WORK HOW RICH HIS GIRLFRIEND WAS GOING TO BE HUMMM.SO TELL ME WHY WAS HE SO EARLY. YOUR MOTHER AND BRENT ARE GUILTY GET OVER IT THEY WERE CONVICTED BY A JURY OF THERE PIERS. GROW UP AND LEARN FROM IT
#130 Feb 20, 2010
"...there piers"? Don't you mean them there piers? Or maybe them thar piers? Or possibly those piers?
And what the heck do piers have to do with a murder trial?
#131 Feb 23, 2010
you must be from sultan or goldbar
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