Riot police out in Dearborn after pro...

Riot police out in Dearborn after protesters rush Florida pastor

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Riot police are out in Dearborn after protesters of Quran-burning Pastor Terry Jones rushed past a police barricade and began throwing water bottles and shoes ...

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Joe

Orlando, FL

#21 Apr 30, 2011
I've always said that sooner or later they'll start the suicide bombings in the US as well. These people are just not like us, but we are being forced to accept them.

It's like oil and water, they just don't mix and neither do these people. Sometimes you have to understand when society is better off not having an open door policy.
wildwilly360

Fairview, TN

#22 Apr 30, 2011
helema wrote:
just so yall know there are A LOT of non muslims that have protested this freak of a pastor. if a mosque is blown up or a quran burned there are so many like yall that tend to say "freedom of speech" even though the criminal is a prejudicial non muslim and can possibly murder muslims while they are at it. Yet if a muslim defends themselves from such a person they are called terrorists.....take yalls heads out ur arses and find another group to pick on cause we aint what the media portrays us out to be!!
You sure as hell aren't. The media and the government have down played the threat from muslims. When you stand on the steps of the US capital and denounce aspects of your religion that are harmful to women and others, then, maybe those of you who aren't rag-head fanatics might stand a chance. If you choose to lump yourself with everyone else under the term muslim, then you deserve all the hate and criticism you get. After all, you only reap what you sow
Benedictus Quebecensis

Laval, Canada

#24 Apr 30, 2011
"Amid a heavy police presence, Pastor Terry Jones delivered a rambling speech today from the steps of Dearborn City Hall that lashed out at Islam and President Barack Obama, but many of his words were drowned out by the voices of a swarm of protesters.

"Jones repeatedly provoked and insulted the counter protesters. At one point, he ignored police requests by ambling down to the front of the police barricades while taunting his opponents. Angered, some of those protesters stormed past police barricades and marched across Michigan Ave as they hurled bottles and shoes at Jones' supporters in front of them.

"(...)For a moment, it appeared a major clash was about to break out. But Arab-American leaders and police pushed back the angry group of youngsters as dozens of police in full riot gear and masks marched out in single file out to separate the two sides. At least two were arrested.

Dearborn Mayor John O'Reilly said afterward that Jones was responsible for creating the disturbance by ignoring city requests not to approach the barricade. "He refused to comply," O'Reilly said. "He was asked, please don't come to the barricade. He just ignored us.... His goal was to start trouble... That shows his character."

Self-made "pastor" Jones does not seem to heed the Old Testament Prophet Hosea's teaching that if you sow the wind, you may reap the whirlwind.

Jesus gave Christians the "Great Commission" to "go into all the world and TEACH all nations". He said "teach" not berate, insult, provoke or attack. Indeed, he said that the second greatest commandment, after the first to love God without reserve, was to "love your neighbour as yourself".
Abbey

Cape Town, South Africa

#25 May 1, 2011
Benedictus Quebecensis wrote:
"Amid a heavy police presence, Pastor Terry Jones delivered a rambling speech today from the steps of Dearborn City Hall that lashed out at Islam and President Barack Obama, but many of his words were drowned out by the voices of a swarm of protesters.
"Jones repeatedly provoked and insulted the counter protesters. At one point, he ignored police requests by ambling down to the front of the police barricades while taunting his opponents. Angered, some of those protesters stormed past police barricades and marched across Michigan Ave as they hurled bottles and shoes at Jones' supporters in front of them.
"(...)For a moment, it appeared a major clash was about to break out. But Arab-American leaders and police pushed back the angry group of youngsters as dozens of police in full riot gear and masks marched out in single file out to separate the two sides. At least two were arrested.
Dearborn Mayor John O'Reilly said afterward that Jones was responsible for creating the disturbance by ignoring city requests not to approach the barricade. "He refused to comply," O'Reilly said. "He was asked, please don't come to the barricade. He just ignored us.... His goal was to start trouble... That shows his character."
Self-made "pastor" Jones does not seem to heed the Old Testament Prophet Hosea's teaching that if you sow the wind, you may reap the whirlwind.
Jesus gave Christians the "Great Commission" to "go into all the world and TEACH all nations". He said "teach" not berate, insult, provoke or attack. Indeed, he said that the second greatest commandment, after the first to love God without reserve, was to "love your neighbour as yourself".
The DEMON HOLY SPIRIT POSSESSED REV. JONES Needs help . Is there an EXCORCIST available , this is an Emergency .
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#26 May 1, 2011
Abbey wrote:
<quoted text> The DEMON HOLY SPIRIT POSSESSED REV. JONES Needs help . Is there an EXCORCIST available , this is an Emergency .
Those who threaten Rev. Jones' life are the ones in need of an excorcist.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#27 May 1, 2011
Benedictus Quebecensis wrote:
"Amid a heavy police presence, Pastor Terry Jones delivered a rambling speech today from the steps of Dearborn City Hall that lashed out at Islam and President Barack Obama, but many of his words were drowned out by the voices of a swarm of protesters.
"Jones repeatedly provoked and insulted the counter protesters. At one point, he ignored police requests by ambling down to the front of the police barricades while taunting his opponents. Angered, some of those protesters stormed past police barricades and marched across Michigan Ave as they hurled bottles and shoes at Jones' supporters in front of them.
"(...)For a moment, it appeared a major clash was about to break out. But Arab-American leaders and police pushed back the angry group of youngsters as dozens of police in full riot gear and masks marched out in single file out to separate the two sides. At least two were arrested.
Dearborn Mayor John O'Reilly said afterward that Jones was responsible for creating the disturbance by ignoring city requests not to approach the barricade. "He refused to comply," O'Reilly said. "He was asked, please don't come to the barricade. He just ignored us.... His goal was to start trouble... That shows his character."
Self-made "pastor" Jones does not seem to heed the Old Testament Prophet Hosea's teaching that if you sow the wind, you may reap the whirlwind.
Jesus gave Christians the "Great Commission" to "go into all the world and TEACH all nations". He said "teach" not berate, insult, provoke or attack. Indeed, he said that the second greatest commandment, after the first to love God without reserve, was to "love your neighbour as yourself".
Is what Jones said about islam true?

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#28 May 1, 2011
serfs up

Plano, TX

#29 May 1, 2011
Benedictus Quebecensis wrote:
"Amid a heavy police presence, Pastor Terry Jones delivered a rambling speech today from the steps of Dearborn City Hall that lashed out at Islam and President Barack Obama, but many of his words were drowned out by the voices of a swarm of protesters.
"Jones repeatedly provoked and insulted the counter protesters. At one point, he ignored police requests by ambling down to the front of the police barricades while taunting his opponents. Angered, some of those protesters stormed past police barricades and marched across Michigan Ave as they hurled bottles and shoes at Jones' supporters in front of them.
"(...)For a moment, it appeared a major clash was about to break out. But Arab-American leaders and police pushed back the angry group of youngsters as dozens of police in full riot gear and masks marched out in single file out to separate the two sides. At least two were arrested.
Dearborn Mayor John O'Reilly said afterward that Jones was responsible for creating the disturbance by ignoring city requests not to approach the barricade. "He refused to comply," O'Reilly said. "He was asked, please don't come to the barricade. He just ignored us.... His goal was to start trouble... That shows his character."
Self-made "pastor" Jones does not seem to heed the Old Testament Prophet Hosea's teaching that if you sow the wind, you may reap the whirlwind.
Jesus gave Christians the "Great Commission" to "go into all the world and TEACH all nations". He said "teach" not berate, insult, provoke or attack. Indeed, he said that the second greatest commandment, after the first to love God without reserve, was to "love your neighbour as yourself".
The words of Christ were and are used against Christians by all things that is progressive media. We are at war in four independent nations that have muslim populations going on ten years. America now needs the Christian teachings it had and lost. But you made Hollywood, liberal television, the print media and others your gods now. You have sympathy for an oppressive religion over the one you grew up with which you despise because it actually demands you have some discipline in your life and can get away with. Imagine that! It is obvious you are using the teachings against the teachers. You got your way...but you created a potential catastrophic outcome unseen in human history. An economic collapse will bring the love out in all of us. the continual slow bleeding will usher in the police state hanging over our heads for decades as pushed by our traitorous politicians. For they traded personal success over the good for us all. We got the crumbs, they got the cake. And we loved it as they paid people in their fiefdoms dumb azz amounts of money and still do. Income is so much needed if you don't wipe your azz right you might be fined for it. Well I am giving you a rambling thread. But that reverend is no different then the view, or behar, or maher or springer or anything else that is sick in broadcasting. He is just on the total opposite side. Oh well..

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#30 May 1, 2011
Benedictus Quebecensis wrote:
Dearborn Mayor John O'Reilly said afterward that Jones was responsible for creating the disturbance by ignoring city requests not to approach the barricade ...
If the rioters who rushed past a police barricade throwing water bottles and shoes at Jones were completely innocent of wrongdoing, why were (only) two of them arrested?
What

Ava, MO

#31 May 1, 2011
Benedictus Quebecensis wrote:
"Amid a heavy police presence, Pastor Terry Jones delivered a rambling speech today from the steps of Dearborn City Hall that lashed out at Islam and President Barack Obama, but many of his words were drowned out by the voices of a swarm of protesters.
"Jones repeatedly provoked and insulted the counter protesters. At one point, he ignored police requests by ambling down to the front of the police barricades while taunting his opponents. Angered, some of those protesters stormed past police barricades and marched across Michigan Ave as they hurled bottles and shoes at Jones' supporters in front of them.
"(...)For a moment, it appeared a major clash was about to break out. But Arab-American leaders and police pushed back the angry group of youngsters as dozens of police in full riot gear and masks marched out in single file out to separate the two sides. At least two were arrested.
Dearborn Mayor John O'Reilly said afterward that Jones was responsible for creating the disturbance by ignoring city requests not to approach the barricade. "He refused to comply," O'Reilly said. "He was asked, please don't come to the barricade. He just ignored us.... His goal was to start trouble... That shows his character."
Self-made "pastor" Jones does not seem to heed the Old Testament Prophet Hosea's teaching that if you sow the wind, you may reap the whirlwind.
Jesus gave Christians the "Great Commission" to "go into all the world and TEACH all nations". He said "teach" not berate, insult, provoke or attack. Indeed, he said that the second greatest commandment, after the first to love God without reserve, was to "love your neighbour as yourself".
And how many times did Jesus by speaking the truth did those around try to kill Him? Yet He continued to preach the truth and spoke against evil. You need to do some more reading of the Bible!
MrRoberts

Canton, OH

#32 May 1, 2011
Pastor Jones should have set up a BBQ tent and served those peace lovin' Muslims some good old southern pulled pork sandwiches. And I wonder if the neighborhood Gay,Lesbian and Tranny group was protesting with their Muslim "brothers?"
Tinkerbell

Oak Ridge, TN

#33 May 1, 2011
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
A Dearborn court and jury ruled the muslim community in Dearborn is violent and should be feared, to the point a peaceful protest is banned and an innocent person thrown in jail because of fear of what the muslim community will do.
Well there you have it...Dearborn courts have successfully passed islam brainwashing 101. Instead of making a stand....they just bowed to islam.

Lets just take that a step further.....and imagine what will happen to the US if all of our courts act as cowardly as Dearborn.

Is it any wonder communities all over America vote out the building of mosques?! HA!
Wolf

Detroit, MI

#35 May 1, 2011
Ignorance and failing to understand the other side is a problem for both Muslim and non-Muslim communities.

Non-Muslims fail to understand why Muslims strongly believe in their religion and act often emotionally to defend it. Non-Muslims need to think about that and recognize how Islam took the same Abraham-ic message of the Jews and Christians and completed it by creating this strongly demonstrated dedication to loving God and following his rules. Islam teaches its followers that Moses and Jesus were sent by God to deliver a message that was appropriate for human development and civilizations of the time. It also teaches them to respect the followers of these religions - That's why Muslims would not burn the Bible or the Old Testament.

Muslims on the other side fail to explain their belief and their ideas to Non-Muslims. I'm not sure if this is due to cultural and language barriers or if it's because they feel like the other side would never appreciate their narrative.

We both Muslims and Non-Muslims need to look beyond our differences. Highlighting extremist ideas from the Koran and focusing on certain teachings of Islam that seem out of norm for us 1,400 years later are only signs of ignorance and failure on both sides. The great 3 Abraham-ic religions were often misinterpreted and misused to serve certain personal and political gains throughout history. The Jews killed Jesus himself. The Christian Crusaders killed many non-Christians in their effort to spread Christianity. There are extreme Jewish people who call for the killing Palestinians and there are Christians who believe in polygamy and early marriage for women (in Utah and elsewhere). We need to think and recognize what the God of the Jewish, Christians and Muslims wanted us to figure out. This is part of the test that we will be graded on on Judgment Day. The fundamentals of all these religions and the historic evidence proves that they are consistent with helping us humans live a greater life on this earth. Do we want to be with those who got it wrong and didn't pass?
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#36 May 1, 2011
Wolf wrote:
Ignorance and failing to understand the other side is a problem for both Muslim and non-Muslim communities.
Non-Muslims fail to understand why Muslims strongly believe in their religion and act often emotionally to defend it. Non-Muslims need to think about that and recognize how Islam took the same Abraham-ic message of the Jews and Christians and completed it by creating this strongly demonstrated dedication to loving God and following his rules. Islam teaches its followers that Moses and Jesus were sent by God to deliver a message that was appropriate for human development and civilizations of the time. It also teaches them to respect the followers of these religions - That's why Muslims would not burn the Bible or the Old Testament.
Muslims on the other side fail to explain their belief and their ideas to Non-Muslims. I'm not sure if this is due to cultural and language barriers or if it's because they feel like the other side would never appreciate their narrative.
We both Muslims and Non-Muslims need to look beyond our differences. Highlighting extremist ideas from the Koran and focusing on certain teachings of Islam that seem out of norm for us 1,400 years later are only signs of ignorance and failure on both sides. The great 3 Abraham-ic religions were often misinterpreted and misused to serve certain personal and political gains throughout history. The Jews killed Jesus himself. The Christian Crusaders killed many non-Christians in their effort to spread Christianity. There are extreme Jewish people who call for the killing Palestinians and there are Christians who believe in polygamy and early marriage for women (in Utah and elsewhere). We need to think and recognize what the God of the Jewish, Christians and Muslims wanted us to figure out. This is part of the test that we will be graded on on Judgment Day. The fundamentals of all these religions and the historic evidence proves that they are consistent with helping us humans live a greater life on this earth. Do we want to be with those who got it wrong and didn't pass?
islam is not represented by a few muslims but by the ummah, muslim community, which as presently represented by islamic nations is a dark pall over humanity. There are no redeeming qualities to be found in islamic nations anywhere in the world; they are all intolerant towards non-muslims.

The crusades were a response to the aggression of muslims in the Holy Land and their preying on Christian pilgrims to the Holy Land and not to spread Christianity.
Wolf

Detroit, MI

#37 May 1, 2011
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
islam is not represented by a few muslims but by the ummah, muslim community, which as presently represented by islamic nations is a dark pall over humanity. There are no redeeming qualities to be found in islamic nations anywhere in the world; they are all intolerant towards non-muslims.
The crusades were a response to the aggression of muslims in the Holy Land and their preying on Christian pilgrims to the Holy Land and not to spread Christianity.
Check your facts- Crusades were also fought against non-muslims:
Crusades were fought against Muslims who had occupied the near east, although campaigns were also waged against pagan Slavs, pagan Balts, Jews, Russian and Greek Orthodox Christians, Mongols, Cathars, Hussites, Waldensians, Old Prussians, and political enemies of the various popes.
Wolf

Detroit, MI

#38 May 1, 2011
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
There are no redeeming qualities to be found in islamic nations anywhere in the world; they are all intolerant towards non-muslims.
You cannot generalize like that.
- There are qualities that Muslim people have that are to be admired.
- Also, the most populous Muslim nation, Indonesia is one of the most tolerant nations.

Don't let your fear of the unknown and the failure of muslims to explain themselves to lead you into extreme views
Anonymous

New York, NY

#39 May 1, 2011
This is ass backwards Muslims want their religion treated with respect.Yet by in far Muslims treat every other religion with disdain .The truth is that everybody now at days Muslim or not thinks they and theirs should be respected while they proceed to S??T on everyone else.
LBer

Long Beach, CA

#40 May 1, 2011
Can anyone, truly, say that their country has been enriched by letting in a sizable number muslims? Or atleast nothing negative has happened because of it?

What is staring us in the face doesn't take an engineer to figure out...
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#41 May 1, 2011
Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>
Check your facts- Crusades were also fought against non-muslims:
Crusades were fought against Muslims who had occupied the near east, although campaigns were also waged against pagan Slavs, pagan Balts, Jews, Russian and Greek Orthodox Christians, Mongols, Cathars, Hussites, Waldensians, Old Prussians, and political enemies of the various popes.
Your point is what? The crusades against muslims were defensive wars against an agreesor: muslims. If the other groups want to complain against the crusades then we will look at them one at a time to see if the were also defensive wars.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#42 May 1, 2011
Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>
You cannot generalize like that.
- There are qualities that Muslim people have that are to be admired.
- Also, the most populous Muslim nation, Indonesia is one of the most tolerant nations.
Don't let your fear of the unknown and the failure of muslims to explain themselves to lead you into extreme views
Indonesia is a tolerant nation??? The would not let Christians use the name allah for God and banned the Bible and only after fighting for the Bible did the Indonesia government relented and allowed the Bible with a warning that they were dangerous.

What qualities do the muslims nations, which are the true face of isalm, have?

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