Race and School Choice

Race and School Choice

There are 30 comments on the KARD story from Jul 31, 2012, titled Race and School Choice. In it, KARD reports that:

Some parents in Richland Parish are upset over a controversial letter sent from the school district.

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Since: Apr 11

United States

#1 Aug 2, 2012
Can't be white from rayville and go to start...but as rediculous as it sounds you can be black from start and go to rayville, affirmative action at for
CONCERNED

United States

#2 Aug 2, 2012
A llittle late to protest this has been a rule since 1986
get the facts

Calhoun, LA

#3 Aug 2, 2012
our kids are being punished for being white. It is not right to keep our kids in a failing school but not vice versa. The Federal Law is so outdated. We need to find out how to update this. This is called reverse discrimation. This is so racial. I do not consider myself a racist, but the way the laws are,they are fast making me racist. I do have a grandchild in the Rayville Elementary School, so I do know what goes on there. It was so bad for him last year. It makes me think that there is no hope for him to get the education he needs. He will be so far behind. At this rate he will never be able to learn enough to go to college.
Doubly fine

United States

#4 Aug 2, 2012
get the facts wrote:
our kids are being punished for being white. It is not right to keep our kids in a failing school but not vice versa. The Federal Law is so outdated. We need to find out how to update this. This is called reverse discrimation. This is so racial. I do not consider myself a racist, but the way the laws are,they are fast making me racist. I do have a grandchild in the Rayville Elementary School, so I do know what goes on there. It was so bad for him last year. It makes me think that there is no hope for him to get the education he needs. He will be so far behind. At this rate he will never be able to learn enough to go to college.
go to the police jury and petition a school change. Three years ago my son switched from Rayville to Holly Ridge via the School Board and police jury. With exceptional teachers, smaller classes he is so much happier and really learning. Good luck to you!
macro2micro2macr o

Modesto, CA

#5 Aug 2, 2012
There's no such thing as reverse racism. If you are discriminated based on the color of your skin, it's racism. Any child being excluded from the law based on skin color is racism. The important question here is why was Rayville Elementary given an F rating and how does the district fix it? Is it strictly a socioeconomic issue or bad policy? As an outsider looking in, it's probably a combination of both.

Since: Apr 11

Haslet, TX

#6 Aug 3, 2012
As my dear friend revealed to me, the black community should be the most offended, the school boards answer to fixing the f rating is simply lowering the percentage of blacks that go to RES...regardless who or what color you are you should be offended, back in the day you just went to the school which area you lived, no race issues then, you simply went to school, you worked hard and succeeded or you failed
Common sense

Shreveport, LA

#7 Aug 3, 2012
RAZORBK wrote:
As my dear friend revealed to me, the black community should be the most offended, the school boards answer to fixing the f rating is simply lowering the percentage of blacks that go to RES...regardless who or what color you are you should be offended, back in the day you just went to the school which area you lived, no race issues then, you simply went to school, you worked hard and succeeded or you failed
They are not removing the Black students from the school. They are removing the students with the lowest scores and placing them in the other schools. I'm pretty sure that there are white students who have low scores too. They are not letting the honor roll students transfer out. Because of the federal laws in place, the white students with low scores will not be allowed to transfer. No, they are not getting rid of just the black students. If everyone had read the entire letter it tells you that the students with the lowest scores take priority. I feel sorry for the teachers. Not only will there be added children, but they are probably testing below their current grade. And I'm pretty sure that some white kids qualified to go just like the black kids.
oh please

United States

#8 Aug 3, 2012
Common sense wrote:
<quoted text>They are not removing the Black students from the school. They are removing the students with the lowest scores and placing them in the other schools. I'm pretty sure that there are white students who have low scores too. They are not letting the honor roll students transfer out. Because of the federal laws in place, the white students with low scores will not be allowed to transfer. No, they are not getting rid of just the black students. If everyone had read the entire letter it tells you that the students with the lowest scores take priority. I feel sorry for the teachers. Not only will there be added children, but they are probably testing below their current grade. And I'm pretty sure that some white kids qualified to go just like the black kids.
The letter plainly states that the white children will not be allowed to transfer.
Holly_Ridge_is_B etter_Off

West Monroe, LA

#9 Aug 4, 2012
Go read the letter that Mr. Christman wrote to the NSW ( Newsstar.com ). I am thankful that Mrs. Gallman has been sent to HRS.
I have not seen nor read the letter that was sent out by RPSB. I only know the backlash that has been reported. Could someone enlighten me with the EXACT contents ofthe letter. Thanks.

Since: Oct 11

Location hidden

#10 Aug 5, 2012
Links to article concerning Rayville Elementary School and letter from the school district.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/01/rayv...
http://i.imgur.com/nrrw2.jpg

Since: Apr 11

United States

#11 Aug 5, 2012
Regardless to what the letter says this isn't a white thing, it's simply a minority thing, if your a minority at the school your at you cannot transfer...this includes black children cannot leave start to go to rayville...just more of that trying to hard to be equal...you outta just go to school where you live and that's it
Common Sense

Monroe, LA

#12 Aug 5, 2012
oh please wrote:
<quoted text>
The letter plainly states that the white children will not be allowed to transfer.
The FIRST page of the letter does plainly state that white children will not be allowed to transfer DUE TO the present provisions issued in the federal Richland Parish School desegregation case. The SECOND page of the letter also states that the lowest achieving students on free/reduced lunch will receive priority in Section 1116 transfers.
I have served as a sub in Rayville elementary. And you can rest assured that there are white children who fit that description as well as black children. So it is not simply about transferring black students out. Common sense should prevail in this situation. And as far as the comment that Holly Ridge would be better off, so was Eula D. Britton.
The black community was better off with desegration. White people did not want us to use their facilities, so guess what. We created our own. We took care of our own children. In my honest opinion, we were better off with desegration than we are now. We had our own schools, teachers, businesses, transportation system, and numerous other things. Black teachers cared for our Black students. There was not any hidden racism.
It amazes me how you feel that Holly Ridge and Start would be better off without the black students, but you can't keep your children away from our black children. There are several of your precious little white children who act more ghetto than my own black children. There are several of you precious little white girls who love our black men more than I do.
And this is coming from an EDUCATED black woman that attended RES, RJH, and RHS. Oh, and I graduated in the top 5% of my class. Also went to college and graduated from there as well. And I am so sick and tired of people getting on the forums and acting like the problem is always a black/white thing.
These teachers need help. These students need to be taught at home as well as at school. There needs to be after school programs for these kids. You make sure they get to baseball, football, basktetball, and cheerleading practice. These same parents need to get together and make sure that homework is done and they studied for the test, regardless of color or income.
Everytime Rayville is in the news it is for something negative.
oh please

United States

#13 Aug 5, 2012
Common Sense wrote:
<quoted text>The FIRST page of the letter does plainly state that white children will not be allowed to transfer DUE TO the present provisions issued in the federal Richland Parish School desegregation case. The SECOND page of the letter also states that the lowest achieving students on free/reduced lunch will receive priority in Section 1116 transfers.
I have served as a sub in Rayville elementary. And you can rest assured that there are white children who fit that description as well as black children. So it is not simply about transferring black students out. Common sense should prevail in this situation. And as far as the comment that Holly Ridge would be better off, so was Eula D. Britton.
The black community was better off with desegration. White people did not want us to use their facilities, so guess what. We created our own. We took care of our own children. In my honest opinion, we were better off with desegration than we are now. We had our own schools, teachers, businesses, transportation system, and numerous other things. Black teachers cared for our Black students. There was not any hidden racism.
It amazes me how you feel that Holly Ridge and Start would be better off without the black students, but you can't keep your children away from our black children. There are several of your precious little white children who act more ghetto than my own black children. There are several of you precious little white girls who love our black men more than I do.
And this is coming from an EDUCATED black woman that attended RES, RJH, and RHS. Oh, and I graduated in the top 5% of my class. Also went to college and graduated from there as well. And I am so sick and tired of people getting on the forums and acting like the problem is always a black/white thing.
These teachers need help. These students need to be taught at home as well as at school. There needs to be after school programs for these kids. You make sure they get to baseball, football, basktetball, and cheerleading practice. These same parents need to get together and make sure that homework is done and they studied for the test, regardless of color or income.
Everytime Rayville is in the news it is for something negative.
I feel that it could have been worded a little different.
SMG

Shreveport, LA

#14 Aug 9, 2012
I think they should just try to fix what is broken with the Rayville school system. Do a total replacement of faculty that should fix the problem but that will NEVER happen! Rayville is too much about ,Who you are in the community.They could Never piss off that many Adults to help the children. Oh lord No ! It must be the children's faults that they are not learning ? Right ? I mean aren't they supposed to teach themselves? I'm sure thats what makes Start and Holly Ridge schools better, the kids are just smarter !! Give me a break So many people want to blame things on children , when it is clearly a teacher / faculty issue ! I mean really people?? Grow the Hell up and Grow a pair and stand up for the children !!

Since: Apr 11

Rayville, LA

#15 Aug 10, 2012
I just don't feel it's a teacher problem, not saying all kids are dumb...just I don't think theres much positive help at home after school...I could read before I went to kindergarten thanks to my grandmother, making learning easier for me later...my friend has 3 boys in the rayville system, and other than gettin picked at a lil for being white they do pretty good in school..,good kids do good in any school that's my point...
CONCERNED

Rayville, LA

#16 Aug 12, 2012
Will Riverfield take the children with school vouchers?
really

Dublin, Ireland

#17 Aug 15, 2012
Common Sense wrote:
<quoted text>
The black community was better off with desegration. In my honest opinion, we were better off with desegration than we are now.
And this is coming from an EDUCATED black woman that attended RES, RJH, and RHS. Oh, and I graduated in the top 5% of my class. Also went to college and graduated from there as well.
Shouldn't an EDUCATED black woman know the difference between desegregation and segregation (and how to spell the words)? Desegregation is what you have NOW, segregation was what you had when blacks were segregated to their own schools.
SMH

Pocatello, ID

#18 Aug 15, 2012
really wrote:
<quoted text>Shouldn't an EDUCATED black woman know the difference between desegregation and segregation (and how to spell the words)? Desegregation is what you have NOW, segregation was what you had when blacks were segregated to their own schools.
Nice catch. Must not have been hard to make top 5%. lol
Holly_Ridge_is_B etter_Off

Calhoun, LA

#19 Aug 25, 2012
Common Sense wrote:
<quoted text>
The FIRST page of the letter does plainly state that white children will not be allowed to transfer DUE TO the present provisions issued in the federal Richland Parish School desegregation case. The SECOND page of the letter also states that the lowest achieving students on free/reduced lunch will receive priority in Section 1116 transfers.
I have served as a sub in Rayville elementary. And you can rest assured that there are white children who fit that description as well as black children. So it is not simply about transferring black students out. Common sense should prevail in this situation. And as far as the comment that Holly Ridge would be better off, so was Eula D. Britton.
The black community was better off with desegration. White people did not want us to use their facilities, so guess what. We created our own. We took care of our own children. In my honest opinion, we were better off with desegration than we are now. We had our own schools, teachers, businesses, transportation system, and numerous other things. Black teachers cared for our Black students. There was not any hidden racism.
It amazes me how you feel that Holly Ridge and Start would be better off without the black students, but you can't keep your children away from our black children. There are several of your precious little white children who act more ghetto than my own black children. There are several of you precious little white girls who love our black men more than I do.
And this is coming from an EDUCATED black woman that attended RES, RJH, and RHS. Oh, and I graduated in the top 5% of my class. Also went to college and graduated from there as well. And I am so sick and tired of people getting on the forums and acting like the problem is always a black/white thing.
These teachers need help. These students need to be taught at home as well as at school. There needs to be after school programs for these kids. You make sure they get to baseball, football, basktetball, and cheerleading practice. These same parents need to get together and make sure that homework is done and they studied for the test, regardless of color or income.
Everytime Rayville is in the news it is for something negative.
Sorry if you read something into my post; I was simply referring to Gloria Gallman being named principal at Holly Ridge, thus "Holly Ridge is Better Off" with Gallman at the helm of the school! Nothing in the comment has any mention of children.
I also just asked a question about the contents of the letter AS I wasn't aware of the EXACT information. I have no comment nor personal thoughts on the "Letter" , I only want the best educational system for Richland Parish children. I don't think anyone disagrees on this point. I am sorry if you were offended by my comment. With all of Jindal's changes, vouchers, etc-LA PUBLIC Schools are being BLED inhumanely. He expects higher scores, better education, et al with LESS Dollars. I agree 100% with you about the teachers needing help, most specifically-parental involvement! Learning starts at home!
DElHI PARENT

Pineville, LA

#20 Aug 29, 2012
I understand your concerns but it is not simply black or white. Delhi students cannot transfer to Rayville high only to Mangham which is a very long commute from Delhi. We all need to really address the real problem with what is causing the failures instead of trying to run from the problem to another school. Even if they let the kids go to Holley Ridge they will still have to mix with the same kids in jr. high and high school which if they are left behind in grades earlier they will still be a drag on the system at this point. the teachers will have to tailor their classes to the lowest common denominator and the kids from Holley Ridge if more advanced will be taught at that level, undoing any perceived advantage to attending Holley Ridge elementary. IMHO we would be better served to kick out the present school board and supt and hire people that understands todays education requirements not the ones from decades ago. The world has advanced but we remained mired in old ideas and technology.

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