Ringgold will try, try again

Ringgold will try, try again

There are 19 comments on the O-R Online story from Sep 11, 2012, titled Ringgold will try, try again. In it, O-R Online reports that:

Ringgold School Board, which has reached a stalemate on how to proceed in creating a new middle school and other issues, will make two attempts this week to reach a majority vote on the decisions.

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“A Dog's Life is Good”

Since: Feb 11

Mon Valley, Pa.

#1 Sep 11, 2012
And the board will keep trying untill a few get their way.
fisherman

United States

#2 Sep 12, 2012
i cant believe these people still haven't made a decision on this. if it only costs $4 million more to build a new school over renovating 2 old schools, doesnt common sense tell you to go with the new one? for only a few million more you have a school that will last a good 40 years longer than those other 2 old ones. Not to mention all the additional costs you would be sinking into the old schools over the years to continually upkeep and keep them from falling apart. Had they not wasted all this time and money on architects and inspectors they would still have that extra $4 million and they could have already started on the new school.

It seems people that get elected to run things, not just this school but most businesses and corporations, are not good decisions makers and have no common sense. they only get elected because they are good talkers and public speakers. which has nothign to do with running a company or school or anything of that nature.

“A Dog's Life is Good”

Since: Feb 11

Mon Valley, Pa.

#3 Sep 12, 2012
fisherman wrote:
i cant believe these people still haven't made a decision on this. if it only costs $4 million more to build a new school over renovating 2 old schools, doesnt common sense tell you to go with the new one? for only a few million more you have a school that will last a good 40 years longer than those other 2 old ones. Not to mention all the additional costs you would be sinking into the old schools over the years to continually upkeep and keep them from falling apart. Had they not wasted all this time and money on architects and inspectors they would still have that extra $4 million and they could have already started on the new school.
It seems people that get elected to run things, not just this school but most businesses and corporations, are not good decisions makers and have no common sense. they only get elected because they are good talkers and public speakers. which has nothign to do with running a company or school or anything of that nature.
No argument here.
Taxed enough

Pittsburgh, PA

#4 Sep 12, 2012
The old Mon City building is large enough to hold grades 5,6,7 & 8 if renovated. No need to renovate 2 old hulks except for some directors wanting a school in Donora. Actually, fixing Finley is the least expensive option, The Smith brothers have bought into some dumb idea.
fisherman

United States

#5 Sep 12, 2012
This isnt really about taxes, its about having a safe place for the kids to go to school.

But since we are on that subjuct, renovating is just a temporary solution. It will end up costing taxpayers and the district more money in the long run and you will still have to build the new school at some point anyways. So not only will you be paying more taxes to cover renovation costs, you will pay more taxes to cover the new school when the time comes. Therefore its a waste of money to renovate. Why not just build the new school now. Every other disrict has newer facilities than Ringgold.
fisherman

United States

#6 Sep 12, 2012
...and Finley cant be "fixed" it can only be improved. Those improvements wont last because of the condition of the building and ground. Its jsut a never ending cycle and we will jsut keep pouring money into it. Same goes for "fixing" those old elementary schools. They need to build the new school and be done with it.

“A Dog's Life is Good”

Since: Feb 11

Mon Valley, Pa.

#7 Sep 12, 2012
fisherman wrote:
This isnt really about taxes, its about having a safe place for the kids to go to school.
But since we are on that subjuct, renovating is just a temporary solution. It will end up costing taxpayers and the district more money in the long run and you will still have to build the new school at some point anyways. So not only will you be paying more taxes to cover renovation costs, you will pay more taxes to cover the new school when the time comes. Therefore its a waste of money to renovate. Why not just build the new school now. Every other disrict has newer facilities than Ringgold.
Why can't people face facts. The money will be spent either way. The taxes will go up either way. Is it really that hard to understand? I doubt it. I think what it boils down to is how much will my friends and/or family or myself make from it.
susieq

Canonsburg, PA

#8 Sep 13, 2012
The old Monongahela school is not large enough by state standards to hold even grades 6-8 without an addition. The space requirements per student change for the different grade levels, and when you renovate, the code requirements must be met. Raze the building and use that land to build? Another possibility, but also very costly.
joe

Highland, MI

#9 Sep 13, 2012
I think by now everyone knows a new bldg is inevitable. You have four directors who have cost us millions in state subsidies and they need to be held accountable. A class action lawsuit needs to be brought against them. Their corruption needs to be put to an end.
joe

Highland, MI

#10 Sep 13, 2012
That school should have been completed by now. Backward thinki.g and small time politics is costimg our communities and our children.
UrKiddin

New Castle, PA

#11 Sep 13, 2012
susieq wrote:
The old Monongahela school is not large enough by state standards to hold even grades 6-8 without an addition. The space requirements per student change for the different grade levels, and when you renovate, the code requirements must be met. Raze the building and use that land to build? Another possibility, but also very costly.
Quess the state changed the standards from when I attended high school there..just sayin. Can't imagine there were any less kids at that time than there are now.
Taxed enough

Pittsburgh, PA

#12 Sep 13, 2012
I like the intelligent comments. Now if the Board members would have an intelligent conversation this decision could be made and everyone could move on. Then focus on educating our students.
susieq

Canonsburg, PA

#13 Sep 14, 2012
"Quess the state changed the standards from when I attended high school there..just sayin. Can't imagine there were any less kids at that time than there are now."

I guess they must have, as I am only posting what the architects have said they must design by. These guidelines also fluctuate with the age of the students in the building. The older the child, the more space they require. There are also legal guidelines that state if a certain percentage of work is being done on a building, then the entire building must be brought up to the state standards, not only regarding space, but for ADA and building codes.
fisherman

Concord, CA

#14 Sep 14, 2012
and now they are forced to cancel another meeting on the subjuect because half the board refuses to show up...these are the "adults" we have chosen to run our school? It really is pathetic. Grown adults acting like whining babies just because they aren't getting their way. These people need a slap in the face, literally

“A Dog's Life is Good”

Since: Feb 11

Mon Valley, Pa.

#15 Sep 14, 2012
"If you won't let me win, I'll take my friends and go home". Sheesh what a crew.
UrKiddin

New Castle, PA

#16 Sep 15, 2012
susieq wrote:
"Quess the state changed the standards from when I attended high school there..just sayin. Can't imagine there were any less kids at that time than there are now."
I guess they must have, as I am only posting what the architects have said they must design by. These guidelines also fluctuate with the age of the students in the building. The older the child, the more space they require. There are also legal guidelines that state if a certain percentage of work is being done on a building, then the entire building must be brought up to the state standards, not only regarding space, but for ADA and building codes.
Oh, Well..If the architects said so then it must be true!
susieq

Canonsburg, PA

#17 Sep 15, 2012
UrKiddin wrote:
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Oh, Well..If the architects said so then it must be true!
I am not an architect, only passing along an answer. I would guess that after five new architects were also brought in to give their estimates, that you doubt their expertise as well.
UrKiddin

New Castle, PA

#18 Sep 15, 2012
susieq wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not an architect, only passing along an answer. I would guess that after five new architects were also brought in to give their estimates, that you doubt their expertise as well.
..I don't doubt anything and everything when it comes to the Ringgold School District!

“A Dog's Life is Good”

Since: Feb 11

Mon Valley, Pa.

#19 Sep 18, 2012
No more trying for them. It's up to the judge now. As soon as the judge learns how to do it.
http://www.observer-reporter.com/or/break11/0...

Don't know these people. Could someone enlighten us on whose side they are on?

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