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Obama to GOP: Stop fighting jobless benefits

There are 465 comments on the Fox 31 KDVR story from Jul 19, 2010, titled Obama to GOP: Stop fighting jobless benefits. In it, Fox 31 KDVR reports that:

On the eve of a vote to extend jobless benefits, President Obama urged Republican senators to set aside partisanship and vote for a package that will provide relief to 2.5 million out-of-work Americans.

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WHATDOYOUCARE

Denver, CO

#1 Jul 19, 2010
Republicans simply want him to take the $30Mil out of the 50% of the unspent stimulus, from pork like Harry Reid's $900Mil choo-choo from Vegas to Disneyland!

But Democrats would rather create more debt with no answers to the problem and keep their special interest spending rolling on and then try to look like Santa Claus while making Republicans look like Scrooge.

And the people who believed Obama before will believe him again, without looking at the FACTS. That is how the Dems gained power, and how they will attempt to keep it- by obfuscation, theft, and lies.
Elbert

Kiowa, CO

#3 Jul 19, 2010
WHATDOYOUCARE wrote:
Republicans simply want him to take the $30Mil out of the 50% of the unspent stimulus, from pork like Harry Reid's $900Mil choo-choo from Vegas to Disneyland!
But Democrats would rather create more debt with no answers to the problem and keep their special interest spending rolling on and then try to look like Santa Claus while making Republicans look like Scrooge.
And the people who believed Obama before will believe him again, without looking at the FACTS. That is how the Dems gained power, and how they will attempt to keep it- by obfuscation, theft, and lies.
Well said. Additionally- what part of the Dems have full majority of everything and control of everything am I missing?

The fact is, Obama has worn out his welcome even with a lot of his Democratic Senators after he made them walk the Obamacare gang plank. Now that November is so close the Dems who are up for reelection are saying NO WAY MR PRESIDENT, NO MORE BORROWING, so he has to blame it on someone, Obama is all about political white wash.

Do not pay attention to Obama's shaking right hand complaining about Republicans, it's his left hand you must pay attention to.
BonnieMay

Castle Rock, CO

#4 Jul 19, 2010
Do the democrats think the jobless should just keep drawing benefits forever? Instead, how about stopping the job-killing policies they keep enacting? It seems they would rather keep people out of work than do something about the joblessness. I know several people who have not even seriously looked for jobs because the unemployment benefits were just enough to keep afloat without having to work. They've used the time off for multiple vacations. One person I know increased her volunteer work schedule. At least she's doing something productive. How about having people work in food banks or homeless shelters or other charities in order to draw extended unemployment benefits. At least they would be doing something to contribute. What do the dems propose we do when the country is so in debt they can no longer keep borrowing to keep up these "humane gestures"?
madmadmad

Denver, CO

#5 Jul 19, 2010
Hymie Goldberg wrote:
The Republicans are washed up old Bitter Pricks with more Money than they will ever need.They Don't give a chit for the common working person.If they did they would have worked out a compromise a long time ago.Same old Political BS.
What part of can we pay for it with unspent stimulus money do you not understand? They offered a compromise. A very reasonable compromise. Now who's fault is it that it didn't pass? You got it. The dems. This is a political ploy by the democrats to make the Republicans look bad because we're coming up on election time and you fell for it.

Ya know what? Stupid should hurt. If you had to go OUCH everytime you fell for that liberal propaganda they would quit trying that kind of crap and we could get something done.
Hymie Goldberg

Chesterfield, MO

#6 Jul 19, 2010
BonnieMay wrote:
Do the democrats think the jobless should just keep drawing benefits forever? Instead, how about stopping the job-killing policies they keep enacting? It seems they would rather keep people out of work than do something about the joblessness. I know several people who have not even seriously looked for jobs because the unemployment benefits were just enough to keep afloat without having to work. They've used the time off for multiple vacations. One person I know increased her volunteer work schedule. At least she's doing something productive. How about having people work in food banks or homeless shelters or other charities in order to draw extended unemployment benefits. At least they would be doing something to contribute. What do the dems propose we do when the country is so in debt they can no longer keep borrowing to keep up these "humane gestures"?
One Question. Do you have a job? This is a shame that this bill is Becoming a Political football. Most people I run into that are Unemployed are actively seeking Jobs. I feel Bad that do to the Economic Climate we can not hire more people.If extending these Benifits prevents these people from losing their homes or becoming Homeless its worth it. Now for the bitterness expressed by some narrow minded people.If it were you that could not find a Job you would be singing a different tune and the first to demand benifits.Thanks to Our Government we are owned by China and the Walmarts of this country are Hiring Part time with no Benifits.Do you actually believe that the Republicans or for that matter the Democrats are not at Blame for this Economic mess this Country is in.Do Some Research and open your Mind and Eyes.
Hymie Goldberg

Chesterfield, MO

#7 Jul 19, 2010
madmadmad wrote:
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What part of can we pay for it with unspent stimulus money do you not understand? They offered a compromise. A very reasonable compromise. Now who's fault is it that it didn't pass? You got it. The dems. This is a political ploy by the democrats to make the Republicans look bad because we're coming up on election time and you fell for it.
Ya know what? Stupid should hurt. If you had to go OUCH everytime you fell for that liberal propaganda they would quit trying that kind of crap and we could get something done.
Keep Believing that BS.I think the Republicans and for that matter the Democrats are doing a good job making each other and themselves look bad without the help of others ie; Scott McGinnis. I am not a Dem or Liberal. T can see Both Parties are out for their own Party and not for the American People.
Hymie Goldberg

Chesterfield, MO

#8 Jul 19, 2010
madmadmad wrote:
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What part of can we pay for it with unspent stimulus money do you not understand? They offered a compromise. A very reasonable compromise. Now who's fault is it that it didn't pass? You got it. The dems. This is a political ploy by the democrats to make the Republicans look bad because we're coming up on election time and you fell for it.
Ya know what? Stupid should hurt. If you had to go OUCH everytime you fell for that liberal propaganda they would quit trying that kind of crap and we could get something done.
Heres a little more for you to read...Next Time before you call People Stupid do some Research. The conservative blockade on the extension of unemployment insurance (and relief for the state revenue crisis) might just be starting to crumble. As with the debates over health care and Wall Street reform, it appears that powerful facts are finally starting to wear down the nonsensical and ideological opposition of the far right. Distilled to its essence, here is the hard factual and political reality that confronts the right and the its chief spokesperson, the hapless Senate Minority Leader, Mitch McConnell: Most people simply find it illogical to block $35 billion in unemployment relief at the same time that one defends keeping nearly $1 trillion in tax cuts for the rich. Most Americans care about the federal debt, but they’re also smart enough to understand the difference between sane, disciplined fiscal policy that requires shared sacrifice and the absurd brand of snake oil economics being peddled by McConnell and the market fundamentalists. I Would post more but don't want to Educate the whole site.Now please reseach this yourself before making anymore unfounded remarks. Its all over the internet LOOK IT UP!!!!!
SimpleMan

United States

#9 Jul 19, 2010
Hymie Goldberg wrote:
The Republicans are washed up old Bitter Pricks with more Money than they will ever need.They Don't give a chit for the common working person.If they did they would have worked out a compromise a long time ago.Same old Political BS.
Everyone knows there is no such thing as a Millionaire Democrat…
madmadmad

Denver, CO

#10 Jul 19, 2010
Hymie Goldberg wrote:
<quoted text> Heres a little more for you to read...Next Time before you call People Stupid do some Research. The conservative blockade on the extension of unemployment insurance (and relief for the state revenue crisis) might just be starting to crumble. As with the debates over health care and Wall Street reform, it appears that powerful facts are finally starting to wear down the nonsensical and ideological opposition of the far right. Distilled to its essence, here is the hard factual and political reality that confronts the right and the its chief spokesperson, the hapless Senate Minority Leader, Mitch McConnell: Most people simply find it illogical to block $35 billion in unemployment relief at the same time that one defends keeping nearly $1 trillion in tax cuts for the rich. Most Americans care about the federal debt, but they’re also smart enough to understand the difference between sane, disciplined fiscal policy that requires shared sacrifice and the absurd brand of snake oil economics being peddled by McConnell and the market fundamentalists. I Would post more but don't want to Educate the whole site.Now please reseach this yourself before making anymore unfounded remarks. Its all over the internet LOOK IT UP!!!!!
Before you believe that those tax cuts are for the rich you might want to educate yourself. By not renewing the tax cuts EVERYBODYS taxes go up substantially. Even the lowest tax brackets. The deduction for child care goes from $1000 to $500. Some deductions for student loans go away altogether. Even people still collecting unemployment on Jan 1 will have to pay more tax on it. The rich, of course can absorb the increase. The middle class and poor will be hurt.

Like I said. Stupid should hurt. They got you again. Stop believing the propaganda and get the facts.
WHATDOYOUCARE

Denver, CO

#11 Jul 19, 2010
I am a small business owning conservative. I am no millionaire. If I didn't have the tax burden I do and didn't have to pay twice the SS as a sole proprietor I could create more jobs, by having work done on my own home and having more business services and hiring more employees. Please don't try to tell me that massive spending and subsidization of failure b gov't is the cure to anything, and that I am heartless for knowing that. It's Econ 101, which the Dems and their followers push aside like a spoiled child who won't eat their peas.

But don't worry, Hymie- they are shoving it through, hidden in the tax package that they let expire last year. Estate tax laws, Estimated Tax laws, tax cuts for teachers, etc, all sitting in the Senate for 9 months now. Do you have any idea how much money has gone uncollected because there are no Estate tax laws in place, like from Steinbrenner, real rich people? Thank the Dems for that. Or how much people are handing over to lawyers for planning? Or how businesses are doing nothing until they know what their tax burdens will be? Or that if they don't deal with the Estinated Alternative Tax thousands upon thousands of middle income earners will pay substantially more?

Congress is going to add three times what they need for the unemployment extension to the tax package, holding it hostage for even more bailouts and money for Medicaid as well.

Don't be fooled- the Dems are wolves in sheep's clothing, count on it.
Ginger

Denver, CO

#12 Jul 19, 2010
What happens when this money is gone?
madmadmad

Denver, CO

#13 Jul 19, 2010
Ginger wrote:
What happens when this money is gone?
What money?

We ran out of money $14,000,000,000,000.00 ago (thats what 14 trillion dollars looks like).
Elbert

Kiowa, CO

#14 Jul 19, 2010
Hymie Goldberg wrote:
<quoted text>One Question. Do you have a job? This is a shame that this bill is Becoming a Political football. Most people I run into that are Unemployed are actively seeking Jobs. I feel Bad that do to the Economic Climate we can not hire more people.If extending these Benifits prevents these people from losing their homes or becoming Homeless its worth it. Now for the bitterness expressed by some narrow minded people.If it were you that could not find a Job you would be singing a different tune and the first to demand benifits.Thanks to Our Government we are owned by China and the Walmarts of this country are Hiring Part time with no Benifits.Do you actually believe that the Republicans or for that matter the Democrats are not at Blame for this Economic mess this Country is in.Do Some Research and open your Mind and Eyes.
Actually if I were out of work I would prefer the administration DO EXACTLY WHAT THE REPUBLICATIONS SUGGESTED- PROVIDE THE BENIFETS FROM UNSPENT STIMULAS. After all, the $900,000,000 stimulus minus wat is left was wasted on campaign paybacks and special interest groups and actually lost jobs, once you remove the Obama white wash.

It's government over taxing, spending and borrowing the root cause of the 24%(real) unemployment.

Wait until the Bush tax cuts expire in January, here comes another 1 TRILLION in tax increases, which Obama sez he will allow.

The current administration is trying to put out a forest fire with gasoline, and not experienced at anythiing enough to notice, or care.
Hymie Goldberg

Chesterfield, MO

#15 Jul 19, 2010
WHATDOYOUCARE wrote:
I am a small business owning conservative. I am no millionaire. If I didn't have the tax burden I do and didn't have to pay twice the SS as a sole proprietor I could create more jobs, by having work done on my own home and having more business services and hiring more employees. Please don't try to tell me that massive spending and subsidization of failure b gov't is the cure to anything, and that I am heartless for knowing that. It's Econ 101, which the Dems and their followers push aside like a spoiled child who won't eat their peas.
But don't worry, Hymie- they are shoving it through, hidden in the tax package that they let expire last year. Estate tax laws, Estimated Tax laws, tax cuts for teachers, etc, all sitting in the Senate for 9 months now. Do you have any idea how much money has gone uncollected because there are no Estate tax laws in place, like from Steinbrenner, real rich people? Thank the Dems for that. Or how much people are handing over to lawyers for planning? Or how businesses are doing nothing until they know what their tax burdens will be? Or that if they don't deal with the Estinated Alternative Tax thousands upon thousands of middle income earners will pay substantially more?
Congress is going to add three times what they need for the unemployment extension to the tax package, holding it hostage for even more bailouts and money for Medicaid as well.
Don't be fooled- the Dems are wolves in sheep's clothing, count on it.
I Believe it or Not I agree with alot of what you say.Both Parties and all Politicians are out for Themseles and own Agenda. My objection to all of this is that they are playing with peoples lives and futures to accomplish their own objectives.I also believe the public is so brain washed by these politicians they are forgetting who these Bums work for and whos money they are spending.Its Ours not Theirs.!!! Do you actually believe either party is any better than the other ? If you do,Welcome to the Brain Washed masses.They have succeeded.
Hymie Goldberg

Chesterfield, MO

#16 Jul 19, 2010
madmadmad wrote:
<quoted text>
Before you believe that those tax cuts are for the rich you might want to educate yourself. By not renewing the tax cuts EVERYBODYS taxes go up substantially. Even the lowest tax brackets. The deduction for child care goes from $1000 to $500. Some deductions for student loans go away altogether. Even people still collecting unemployment on Jan 1 will have to pay more tax on it. The rich, of course can absorb the increase. The middle class and poor will be hurt.
Like I said. Stupid should hurt. They got you again. Stop believing the propaganda and get the facts.
Here you Go some more Logic and Fact Believe it or not.2010 Unemployment Extension: Benefits Bad for Deficit Spending, Tax Breaks Good?
The unemployment extension hasn’t passed in part because of deficit spending. The measure comes with a $33 billion price tag which is supposed to be paid for using deficit spending. Republicans are against spending money that the country doesn’t have to pay the checks for the jobless in America
This makes sense, if their logic was consistent. The Bush Tax Cuts initiated during his administration are due to expire in 2011. Republicans support extending the tax cuts, adding $600 billion to the deficit.
Yes.$600 billion in tax cuts for the wealthy is okay – but $33 billion for the jobless benefits is a bit excessive.Time for you to do some research....
There are two Republican senators that are for the measure – Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins from Maine . Other than that, the extension isn’t supported by anyone but the Democratic senators.
Tomorrow is the date that the measure will be once again brought to the floor, with chances of passage. If passed, Obama will sign the measure and it will become law. Millions will be able to rest knowing that help is on the way.Do you Care ???
It’s been a long road; the extension expired on June 2, 2010. Now, people have been worried about what is next for them – where their next mortgage payment will come, how they will feed their families. Hopefully all that is behind them. I will not use the term Stupid or sink to your level, we are just in a Discussion.
GSXR

Longmont, CO

#17 Jul 19, 2010
Why doesn't BO set aside partisanship and do something good for the country for a change?
WHATDOYOUCARE

Denver, CO

#18 Jul 19, 2010
All I know is what I see, Hymie, and right now that is a Congress that is not running the country, just running it into the ground with their agenda, and a President who claims to want "bi-partisanship" and does everything he can to undermine it. He is more of an idealogue than Bush or Clinton ever were, and he really is not one of us, in a strictly experience-based way.

I agree that neither party has a patent on political propaganda to serve the power base, not the people. But right now, if the damm Republicans would just get some leadership going I believe they are on a more reasonable track, fiscally, than the Democrats. They learned some lessons from the Bush presidency, I think, or some of them did, and it seems the Dems learned nothing, overreaching as they are.

They haven't succeeded at much, let alone brainwashing me. But I cannot support this administration's actions, as I think they couldn't be more wrong, whatever their motives may be.
Ginger

Denver, CO

#19 Jul 19, 2010
Hymie Goldberg wrote:
<quoted text> Here you Go some more Logic and Fact Believe it or not.2010 Unemployment Extension: Benefits Bad for Deficit Spending, Tax Breaks Good?
The unemployment extension hasn’t passed in part because of deficit spending. The measure comes with a $33 billion price tag which is supposed to be paid for using deficit spending. Republicans are against spending money that the country doesn’t have to pay the checks for the jobless in America
This makes sense, if their logic was consistent. The Bush Tax Cuts initiated during his administration are due to expire in 2011. Republicans support extending the tax cuts, adding $600 billion to the deficit.
Yes.$600 billion in tax cuts for the wealthy is okay – but $33 billion for the jobless benefits is a bit excessive.Time for you to do some research....
There are two Republican senators that are for the measure – Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins from Maine . Other than that, the extension isn’t supported by anyone but the Democratic senators.
Tomorrow is the date that the measure will be once again brought to the floor, with chances of passage. If passed, Obama will sign the measure and it will become law. Millions will be able to rest knowing that help is on the way.Do you Care ???
It’s been a long road; the extension expired on June 2, 2010. Now, people have been worried about what is next for them – where their next mortgage payment will come, how they will feed their families. Hopefully all that is behind them. I will not use the term Stupid or sink to your level, we are just in a Discussion.
But again, what happens when this debt is exhausted as well? What kind of change are we hoping for? They don't spend the stimulus, and you keep dancing around that fact. Why NOT use it for extensions? Or for pete's sake, just spend it?! The key factor in stimulus spending, is, well, SPENDING IT! Not holding onto it while it accrues millions in interest ever day! What are they waiting for?

No, they are playing good guy/bad guy politics with this, business as usual while we pay and pay and nothing is created at all.
Hymie Goldberg

Chesterfield, MO

#20 Jul 19, 2010
WHATDOYOUCARE wrote:
All I know is what I see, Hymie, and right now that is a Congress that is not running the country, just running it into the ground with their agenda, and a President who claims to want "bi-partisanship" and does everything he can to undermine it. He is more of an idealogue than Bush or Clinton ever were, and he really is not one of us, in a strictly experience-based way.
I agree that neither party has a patent on political propaganda to serve the power base, not the people. But right now, if the damm Republicans would just get some leadership going I believe they are on a more reasonable track, fiscally, than the Democrats. They learned some lessons from the Bush presidency, I think, or some of them did, and it seems the Dems learned nothing, overreaching as they are.
They haven't succeeded at much, let alone brainwashing me. But I cannot support this administration's actions, as I think they couldn't be more wrong, whatever their motives may be.
I support this Bill from a Humanitarian stand only.As far as Both Parties Go.Choose your Poison.Bush was like a Deer in the Headlights when the Economy Imploded without a clue or Idea what happened or what to do.As far as Mr Obama goes Socialist/Idealist Might be an Understatement.
madmadmad

Denver, CO

#21 Jul 19, 2010
Hymie Goldberg wrote:
<quoted text> Here you Go some more Logic and Fact Believe it or not.2010 Unemployment Extension: Benefits Bad for Deficit Spending, Tax Breaks Good?
The unemployment extension hasn’t passed in part because of deficit spending. The measure comes with a $33 billion price tag which is supposed to be paid for using deficit spending. Republicans are against spending money that the country doesn’t have to pay the checks for the jobless in America
This makes sense, if their logic was consistent. The Bush Tax Cuts initiated during his administration are due to expire in 2011. Republicans support extending the tax cuts, adding $600 billion to the deficit.
Yes.$600 billion in tax cuts for the wealthy is okay – but $33 billion for the jobless benefits is a bit excessive.Time for you to do some research....
There are two Republican senators that are for the measure – Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins from Maine . Other than that, the extension isn’t supported by anyone but the Democratic senators.
Tomorrow is the date that the measure will be once again brought to the floor, with chances of passage. If passed, Obama will sign the measure and it will become law. Millions will be able to rest knowing that help is on the way.Do you Care ???
It’s been a long road; the extension expired on June 2, 2010. Now, people have been worried about what is next for them – where their next mortgage payment will come, how they will feed their families. Hopefully all that is behind them. I will not use the term Stupid or sink to your level, we are just in a Discussion.
Again, the tax cuts are NOT just for the wealthy. They affect everybody. The only difference is the wealthy can afford it. The rest of us can't. Tax cuts stimulate the economy. Government spending does not. I'm not talking about the government spending part of the stimulus money they "set aside". I'm talking about the $14,000,000,000,000.00 they've pisssed away on stuff that didn't work.

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