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Millcreek Dog

Erie, PA

#1 Dec 31, 2013
Well we got socked with a one mill tax hike in the township and that idiot supervisor McGrath wanted an extra $100,000.00 for his golf course but could not get a second. That guy is the biggest looser in local politics and Millcreek is stuck with the jerk for 4 more years.
Millcreek Cat

Erie, PA

#2 Dec 31, 2013
Why complain about something you can't control, who gives a crap about taxes? Either do something to change it, or pay Caesar what belongs to Caesar!
tyred

Erie, PA

#3 Dec 31, 2013
Millcreek needs additional money because of the potential 3.4 million dollar bill due for the Eminent Domain Case that they lost to the Erie Insurance heir. It should have never happened.

The Millcreek Supervisors lost a pile of money and now the taxpayers have to dig deeper into their pockets. A LOT deeper.

Next election, send Mr McGrath out the same way as Mr Kujawa....
Stu Pedaso

Erie, PA

#4 Dec 31, 2013
Millcreek should be run like a business and that golf course converted to an illegal landfill.
hes back

Erie, PA

#5 Dec 31, 2013
Millcreek Dog wrote:
Well we got socked with a one mill tax hike in the township and that idiot supervisor McGrath wanted an extra $100,000.00 for his golf course but could not get a second. That guy is the biggest looser in local politics and Millcreek is stuck with the jerk for 4 more years.
Now, now Loser Lou. You'll run against him in two years and lose again, and again, and again, and again....
Millcreek Dog

Erie, PA

#6 Dec 31, 2013
tyred wrote:
Millcreek needs additional money because of the potential 3.4 million dollar bill due for the Eminent Domain Case that they lost to the Erie Insurance heir. It should have never happened.
The Millcreek Supervisors lost a pile of money and now the taxpayers have to dig deeper into their pockets. A LOT deeper.
Next election, send Mr McGrath out the same way as Mr Kujawa....
McGath is a joke, lifetime politician who could not get a job in the real world.

Since: Oct 12

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#7 Dec 31, 2013
Outside of the golf course and unequal water rates in Millcreek, I feel that the taxes in Millcreek and rather reasonable. Those that complain have obviously never lived anywhere other than Erie.
visitor

Union City, PA

#8 Dec 31, 2013
Orange Space Monkey wrote:
Outside of the golf course and unequal water rates in Millcreek, I feel that the taxes in Millcreek and rather reasonable. Those that complain have obviously never lived anywhere other than Erie.
So very true. Living here is very inexpensive!
Stu Pedaso

Erie, PA

#9 Dec 31, 2013
The medians are very reasonably priced!
visitor wrote:
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So very true. Living here is very inexpensive!
okay

Erie, PA

#10 Jan 1, 2014
Orange Space Monkey wrote:
Outside of the golf course and unequal water rates in Millcreek, I feel that the taxes in Millcreek and rather reasonable. Those that complain have obviously never lived anywhere other than Erie.
Then you can pay the 300 more my tax will be since it is so "easy"
the economist

Erie, PA

#12 Jan 1, 2014
Just had to comment on that last few posts.....yeah in comparison to the national average, the taxes don't seem to bad....but factor in school taxes and other local taxes/fees....then look what you are getting out of it?....I mean you're right look at it as a business... really it's a product that you purchase...if I give u a lower price than the national average on apples but the apples are rotten....not really a good investment eh?....think about it....our advertising to young new families and thus the next generation of taxpayers is "Come to Millcreek, we closed two schools last year....had a huge scandal with school finances...tried to hide it with a new McDowell ....we're still paying the crooked guy who is "on leave" that caused the issues....our businesses don't develop in Millcreek because BIU (building inspector underwriters) have a monopoly and can't handle it so they over regulate to keep demand down....we don't have a fire inspector....only about 7000 people get there water from Millcreek and the rest is outsourced to Erie( which is a private company)...but yet we still pay for a water authority to essentially do nothing......not even mentioning the corrupt study commission results, the school audit, the lack of technological investment in schools and this giant mistake of a lawsuit"........no matters how you "feel" on these.....you have to admit....would u buy this product we call Millcreek Township if you we re a young millennial starting a family and invest your tax dollars for the next twenty years here? We're losing our competitive advantage faster than we can replace our leaders and I really worry about the long term viability of the township....you think this tax hike is it? What do you think will happen when there's no more old people because they have died and there's no young people because they never moved in....property values go down taxes go up....Millcreek becomes a place that used to be nice
Nasty

Erie, PA

#13 Jan 1, 2014
the economist wrote:
Just had to comment on that last few posts.....yeah in comparison to the national average, the taxes don't seem to bad....but factor in school taxes and other local taxes/fees....then look what you are getting out of it?....I mean you're right look at it as a business... really it's a product that you purchase...if I give u a lower price than the national average on apples but the apples are rotten....not really a good investment eh?....think about it....our advertising to young new families and thus the next generation of taxpayers is "Come to Millcreek, we closed two schools last year....had a huge scandal with school finances...tried to hide it with a new McDowell ....we're still paying the crooked guy who is "on leave" that caused the issues....our businesses don't develop in Millcreek because BIU (building inspector underwriters) have a monopoly and can't handle it so they over regulate to keep demand down....we don't have a fire inspector....only about 7000 people get there water from Millcreek and the rest is outsourced to Erie( which is a private company)...but yet we still pay for a water authority to essentially do nothing......not even mentioning the corrupt study commission results, the school audit, the lack of technological investment in schools and this giant mistake of a lawsuit"........no matters how you "feel" on these.....you have to admit....would u buy this product we call Millcreek Township if you we re a young millennial starting a family and invest your tax dollars for the next twenty years here? We're losing our competitive advantage faster than we can replace our leaders and I really worry about the long term viability of the township....you think this tax hike is it? What do you think will happen when there's no more old people because they have died and there's no young people because they never moved in....property values go down taxes go up....Millcreek becomes a place that used to be nice
What you've really done is describe the entire region and not just Millcreek. It has become a rapid downward swirl that very few have the intellect to recognize and call out. You're right, people of economic potential and hope for rebuilding a decaying community do not choose to come here. At least not in the numbers needed to make any noticeable difference.
Given the choice between warmer, sunnier, and better job prospects regions of the country versus the stark cold and gray low paying Erie area realities, which would you find more attractive as a young and promising upstart ?
Erie and the surrounding region moves in only one direction. It continues to grow older, poorer, and dumber with each passing day. The smarter young ones know this better than those entrenched here who seem to lack the capacity to figure out the hard sad truth of what's happened to their once proud home.
Millcreek Dog

Erie, PA

#14 Jan 1, 2014
Don't get me started on those idiots on the school board. What a bunch of puppet dummies that let a pretty good school district go to hell. Apparently they felt justified in appointing a new super who was second in command when this whole mess happened. Why is it we let over educated liberals run our schools?
Factoid

Erie, PA

#15 Jan 1, 2014
Millcreek has no clue of what's coming. Walmart is now being used by a nonprofit and the locust/ parasite population is firmly established in Grenada and spreading. You will be over run with the parasites and locusts as Erie has been and you will watch your tax base get gobbled up by the non profits. Nobody with a 20-30yr vision would even consider moving to Millcreek. The $250,000 homes will be selling for $60-$70 thousand in 15-20 yrs. Here's a big clue; lood at the number of multi-family units being built in Millcreek. These will be inhabited by section 8 families soon and watch what happens to your beloved school district. You will be the new Erie school district. In debt, broken, and an utter failure.
jebus

United States

#16 Jan 1, 2014
Millcreek Dog wrote:
Don't get me started on those idiots on the school board. What a bunch of puppet dummies that let a pretty good school district go to hell. Apparently they felt justified in appointing a new super who was second in command when this whole mess happened. Why is it we let over educated liberals run our schools?
Being 'over educated' is not possible.
Vanderputte

Lady Lake, FL

#17 Jan 1, 2014
Factoid wrote:
Millcreek has no clue of what's coming. Walmart is now being used by a nonprofit and the locust/ parasite population is firmly established in Grenada and spreading. You will be over run with the parasites and locusts as Erie has been and you will watch your tax base get gobbled up by the non profits. Nobody with a 20-30yr vision would even consider moving to Millcreek. The $250,000 homes will be selling for $60-$70 thousand in 15-20 yrs. Here's a big clue; lood at the number of multi-family units being built in Millcreek. These will be inhabited by section 8 families soon and watch what happens to your beloved school district. You will be the new Erie school district. In debt, broken, and an utter failure.
Right on oh wise one.
Rob Wilson

United States

#18 Jan 1, 2014
Shut up and pay your taxes, Creekers!
Stu Pedaso

Erie, PA

#19 Jan 1, 2014
"Outsource" your water? That's a funny way to put it. The Millcreek Water Authority is funded by those 7000 folks who receive their water from two sources. Bulk water is purchased from the City, re-priced 300% and combined with well water, then delivered.

The rest of the folks getting their water from Erie are paying substantially less for it. It's your authority that's a home grown political scam.
the economist wrote:
Just had to comment on that last few posts.....yeah in comparison to the national average, the taxes don't seem to bad....but factor in school taxes and other local taxes/fees....then look what you are getting out of it?....I mean you're right look at it as a business... really it's a product that you purchase...if I give u a lower price than the national average on apples but the apples are rotten....not really a good investment eh?....think about it....our advertising to young new families and thus the next generation of taxpayers is "Come to Millcreek, we closed two schools last year....had a huge scandal with school finances...tried to hide it with a new McDowell ....we're still paying the crooked guy who is "on leave" that caused the issues....our businesses don't develop in Millcreek because BIU (building inspector underwriters) have a monopoly and can't handle it so they over regulate to keep demand down....we don't have a fire inspector....only about 7000 people get there water from Millcreek and the rest is outsourced to Erie( which is a private company)...but yet we still pay for a water authority to essentially do nothing......not even mentioning the corrupt study commission results, the school audit, the lack of technological investment in schools and this giant mistake of a lawsuit"........no matters how you "feel" on these.....you have to admit....would u buy this product we call Millcreek Township if you we re a young millennial starting a family and invest your tax dollars for the next twenty years here? We're losing our competitive advantage faster than we can replace our leaders and I really worry about the long term viability of the township....you think this tax hike is it? What do you think will happen when there's no more old people because they have died and there's no young people because they never moved in....property values go down taxes go up....Millcreek becomes a place that used to be nice
the economist

Erie, PA

#20 Jan 1, 2014
Didn't want to have to get specific on one issue but....you do realize that right on the water authority's website they state that "96% of Millcreek receives water from Erie" which is due to the commercial side of things...and there's wells that pump into these lines too?...it's a bad situation because of overhead....my thought is that we are currently operating under a 757,000 water deficit and 2.2 million dollar sewer deficit....and we pay 3.4 million in water operating expenses which includes 2.4 million to buy Erie water and on top of that another 560,000 in administration costs....and pay about a million bucks in overhead/administration for the sewer authority and the township(our taxes) also pays about 680,000 in a"management fee" (included in sewer income).....it doesn't take a mathematician to look at there budgets and realize yes we do outsource the majority of the end product to other townships/cities, yes there is a large portion of our taxes/fees going to overhead/administration.....ye t 96% get the water for the 2.4 million we are paying Erie.....why not completely outsource it to Erie and disband the authority removing our administrative and overhead....?....rumor is it's going to happen by year end
okay

Erie, PA

#21 Jan 1, 2014
the economist wrote:
Just had to comment on that last few posts.....yeah in comparison to the national average, the taxes don't seem to bad....but factor in school taxes and other local taxes/fees....then look what you are getting out of it?....I mean you're right look at it as a business... really it's a product that you purchase...if I give u a lower price than the national average on apples but the apples are rotten....not really a good investment eh?....think about it....our advertising to young new families and thus the next generation of taxpayers is "Come to Millcreek, we closed two schools last year....had a huge scandal with school finances...tried to hide it with a new McDowell ....we're still paying the crooked guy who is "on leave" that caused the issues....our businesses don't develop in Millcreek because BIU (building inspector underwriters) have a monopoly and can't handle it so they over regulate to keep demand down....we don't have a fire inspector....only about 7000 people get there water from Millcreek and the rest is outsourced to Erie( which is a private company)...but yet we still pay for a water authority to essentially do nothing......not even mentioning the corrupt study commission results, the school audit, the lack of technological investment in schools and this giant mistake of a lawsuit"........no matters how you "feel" on these.....you have to admit....would u buy this product we call Millcreek Township if you we re a young millennial starting a family and invest your tax dollars for the next twenty years here? We're losing our competitive advantage faster than we can replace our leaders and I really worry about the long term viability of the township....you think this tax hike is it? What do you think will happen when there's no more old people because they have died and there's no young people because they never moved in....property values go down taxes go up....Millcreek becomes a place that used to be nice
As of now Millcreek taxes are rather fair, but in the next few years we will lose that "Millcreek Advantage" over the City of Erie. Just look at the 1 mill tax hike from the Township that translates out to $100 bucks per $100K of assessed value. Now they need the money due to being ignorant....The Cress Trust is appealing and will demand that $3.4 plus million be paid back....That is a tragedy because that all could have been avoided. Add that in with increasing health costs, more police and maybe even paid fire.
Then there is the Millcreek School District. What a farce. We are just lucky Ron Wilga was too busy with some man to take out a $100 million dollar bond. The people at the top like Dr. Stephanie Williams, Golde only exemplify greed and selfish arrogance. Our district will lose its footing because of the quality of families if we have too many multifamily homes. What good is a good teacher when the students are too confused and angry from a troubled home life and broken family? Good students are far more rare now than good teachers. Teachers make a bundle of money in PA public schools average is $63K. They are the last ones to worry about. And why do we need assistant principals making $80K? Axe them! How much will the new school tax hike be this year? Another $100 bucks for every $100K? 2014 will be the year property taxes sore 20%, and guess what? The services will be the same maybe even shittier.

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