Should School be extended?

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MCR

United States

#1 Oct 2, 2009
President Obama thinks the school year should be extended. This may be a good idea but it won't do any good if they aren't taught any more than they are now. Get back to the 3 R's, and work from there.

Obama's overriding point is correct. Federal, state and local school communities need to do many things to prepare American students for the rigors of the 21st century global economy. Productive debate about adding hours in class or days to the calendar should be high on that list.
But that's no substitute for tackling all of the tough issues, such as rebuilding curriculum, improving school conditions, offering new technologies and getting parents involved in their children's education.

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Reason

Canton, OH

#2 Oct 2, 2009
No.

Since: Aug 09

Erie, PA

#3 Oct 2, 2009
Yes it should. The schools are producing idiots. There is a problem when one graduates, and can't read the diploma. How many children can't make change without the register telling them how much? Please, extend school, and educate the children. Do you really want to have a country led by illiterates in 25 years?
TWTL

Edinboro, PA

#4 Oct 2, 2009
The best thing Obama can do is get rid of NCLB.
AsI See It

United States

#6 Oct 2, 2009
Go ahead and extend the schools so that kids are there 365 days a year. Won't make much difference if so many continue to walk out the door each morning from homes with parents who don't give a dead rat's behind about behavior and performance standards. What goes on within the four walls of a kids home every day has a much greater affect on how they will turn out than what goes on within the four walls of a school. If damaged goods enters a school building each day there is little that a school environment can do to reverse the poisonous atmosphere that festers within the home. Sure there are always isolated examples of success despite the odds that dispel my claim but these are so few and far between that none of us should be satisfied with the "one in a hundred " feel good stories that make us think these problems are going away. A good school can help but only so much. Measures have to be taken to get the message out to parents and /or guardians that their influences are where it all begins and are what reinforces the efforts of public education. I am convinced that without a solid home base that molds our kids from the cradle all efforts to fix these problems within the schools will fall far short of the desired outcomes........ But you know what ? Ask any parent if they think they are a good parent. They will all answer a resounding "yes" and will see no reason to change. Thus the beat goes on and on and on.
General

Stow, OH

#7 Oct 3, 2009
AsI See It wrote:
Go ahead and extend the schools so that kids are there 365 days a year. Won't make much difference if so many continue to walk out the door each morning from homes with parents who don't give a dead rat's behind about behavior and performance standards. What goes on within the four walls of a kids home every day has a much greater affect on how they will turn out than what goes on within the four walls of a school. If damaged goods enters a school building each day there is little that a school environment can do to reverse the poisonous atmosphere that festers within the home. Sure there are always isolated examples of success despite the odds that dispel my claim but these are so few and far between that none of us should be satisfied with the "one in a hundred " feel good stories that make us think these problems are going away. A good school can help but only so much. Measures have to be taken to get the message out to parents and /or guardians that their influences are where it all begins and are what reinforces the efforts of public education. I am convinced that without a solid home base that molds our kids from the cradle all efforts to fix these problems within the schools will fall far short of the desired outcomes........ But you know what ? Ask any parent if they think they are a good parent. They will all answer a resounding "yes" and will see no reason to change. Thus the beat goes on and on and on.
They should be teaching children languages from kindergarten like they teach English to children in other countries. Here, languages aren't taught til at least junior high and in this global environment, kids should be able to speak two languages. It can only help them get ahead in the world.
Toots

United States

#8 Oct 3, 2009
It won't do any good to extend the school year if they don't start teaching these kids the basics. The no child left behind did more harm than good. Get rid of it.
Toots

United States

#9 Oct 3, 2009
Why should they be taught other languages when they can't even speak or write English?
General wrote:
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They should be teaching children languages from kindergarten like they teach English to children in other countries. Here, languages aren't taught til at least junior high and in this global environment, kids should be able to speak two languages. It can only help them get ahead in the world.
K Mac

Erie, PA

#10 Oct 3, 2009
General wrote:
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They should be teaching children languages from kindergarten like they teach English to children in other countries. Here, languages aren't taught til at least junior high and in this global environment, kids should be able to speak two languages. It can only help them get ahead in the world.
Lengthening the school day could help that. There's only room in the day for so many classes; if there were longer days, they could add time for more useful electives.
BeckyKnapp

Stow, OH

#11 Oct 3, 2009
K Mac wrote:
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Lengthening the school day could help that. There's only room in the day for so many classes; if there were longer days, they could add time for more useful electives.
I agree with you, and i also agree with General. My aunt says when she was growing up in Japan, they started learning English in kindergarten. Very young children pick up a second language so much faster than older kids/adults -- so why do we wait until a kid is in 7th or 8th grade to start offering Spanish/French/German electives? It would be SO much smarter to start while they're YOUNG.
I took Spanish in school, but when my son was four, the Adult Education program at our neighborhood high school offered Spanish classes for adults -- and offered one for pre-K kids at the same time. I enrolled both of us -- and it was so cool to learn TOGETHER. We could "practice" our Spanish together, and it was fun for both of us -- but HE picked it up much quicker and easier than I did. I think it's better to start them young.
BeckyKnapp

Stow, OH

#12 Oct 3, 2009
Toots wrote:
Why should they be taught other languages when they can't even speak or write English?
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I think you are one of those very narrow-minded people who are frozen in time about 50 years back. You'd LIKE to live in an era of black-and-white TVs and party-line telephones. Sorry, TOOTS ... but that ain't happenin'. It's called GLOBALIZATION.
Nasty

Edinboro, PA

#13 Oct 3, 2009
Schools fail because parents fail before them.
BeckyKnapp

Stow, OH

#14 Oct 3, 2009
Nasty wrote:
Schools fail because parents fail before them.
I'd wager that that is a true statement.

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#15 Oct 4, 2009
K Mac wrote:
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Lengthening the school day could help that. There's only room in the day for so many classes; if there were longer days, they could add time for more useful electives.
Lengthening the school day may help, but doubt it will ever happen. Too many parents could care less about academics and it would cut into "my son's football practice," "daughter's part-time job at Wendys that she needs to pay for car insurance to drive to her job..." If any thing, lengthening the school year should be looked at. There's no reason to have summers off anymore. The crops don't need harvested.
General

Stow, OH

#16 Oct 4, 2009
Omniscient1 wrote:
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Lengthening the school day may help, but doubt it will ever happen. Too many parents could care less about academics and it would cut into "my son's football practice," "daughter's part-time job at Wendys that she needs to pay for car insurance to drive to her job..." If any thing, lengthening the school year should be looked at. There's no reason to have summers off anymore. The crops don't need harvested.
Not likely they'll extend school days or the school year. Teachers and principals would protest longer hours and no summer vacations. They'd lobby against it.
macksmm

Hydetown, PA

#17 Oct 4, 2009
If the teachers cannot teach them in the hours they are in school now, what good is it going to do extending the school day? How much of this problem is the teachers? I am sure it is a combination of many issues such as the fact that the teachers don't have the "authority" to discipline the kids anymore, class size, the attitude of students these day and many more. I don't see how extending the school day will help with these issues.
Nasty

Erie, PA

#18 Oct 4, 2009
There is a big advantage for my kids as other parents screw up their own by not instilling solid educational values and expectations. When it comes time for my kids to choose a college and then vie for a position to start a career they will have a huge advantage over so many of the slugs and underachievers that come out of the public school systems. So keep it up parents. Just ship Johnny and Suzy out the door each morning with no guidance and upbringing about the reasons for a good eduaction. Just go along ignorantly believing that it's all the school's responsibility. Ensure that your kids will be mediocore at best and remember to blame problems and failures on everyone else instead of looking in the mirror. Continue to do this so that my kids will move ahead of yours while yours can perpetuate the dead end cycle and look at sucessful people as " just lucky " and undeserving of the spoils that come their way. Ain't that America these days now ?
Toots

United States

#21 Oct 4, 2009
You are one of the primary people on here always picking on how the English language is used and correcting spelling. Also saying children nowadays don't know how to balance a check book, make change and in general have a very inadequate education? So...Would you not agree children should learn English before learning another language? As far as globalization, it has very little to do with language and everything thing to do with knowing about other cultures and their history.
BeckyKnapp wrote:
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I think you are one of those very narrow-minded people who are frozen in time about 50 years back. You'd LIKE to live in an era of black-and-white TVs and party-line telephones. Sorry, TOOTS ... but that ain't happenin'. It's called GLOBALIZATION.
K Mac

Erie, PA

#22 Oct 4, 2009
Omniscient1 wrote:
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Lengthening the school day may help, but doubt it will ever happen. Too many parents could care less about academics and it would cut into "my son's football practice," "daughter's part-time job at Wendys that she needs to pay for car insurance to drive to her job..." If any thing, lengthening the school year should be looked at. There's no reason to have summers off anymore. The crops don't need harvested.
Agreed.
TWTL

Edinboro, PA

#23 Oct 5, 2009
Knowing that my kids have an opportunity to choose from this list of electives, I'd be in favor of lengthening the days and the school year in order to get in as many of these electives as possible. This is what my kids' school offers in electives in addition to their required courses in Math and English:

Art
Communication Graphics
Ceramics
Drawing
Jewelry/Metalry
Painting I and II
Print Making
Video Communications I and II
Digital Photography I and II
Arts and Humanities
Accounting
College Accounting
Business and Personal Law
Business Concepts
Career Counseling
Keyboarding
International Business
Small Business Management
World of Business/Manufacturing
Computer Animation
Computer Technology I and II
Multimedia I and II
Women in Technology
Programming I, II, III
Programming With Alice
Webmaster I and II
Driver Education
Acting and Set Design
Creative Writing
Intor to Journalism and Publication Design
Newspaper
Public Speaking
Yearbook
SAT Prep
Basic Food and Nutrition
Advanced Food Techniques
Fun Food for Fun Occasions
Child Development I and II
Environmental Design
Fashion
The Lancer Pantry
Reality Check
Relationships
French I, II, III, IV
German I, II, III, IV, V
Spanish I, II, III, IV, V
Fitness and Weight Training
Kids to Kids
Team Sports
Broadway Dinner Choir
Electronic Music
Holiday Choir
Madrigal Singers
Music theory I and II
Vocal Jazz Ensemble
Women's Ensemble
Spring Concert Choir
Developmental Band
Concert Band
Marching Band
Jazz Band I, II, III
Jazz Improvisation I, II
Brass Ensemble
Percussion Ensemble
Symphonic Wind Ensemble
Woodwind Ensemble
Student Conductor
Environmental Biology I, II
Physics
Principles of Technology
Astrophysics
Nuclear Physics
Energy and You
United States History
Current Affairs
Economics
Filtering American Media
Geography Refresher
Global Issues
Government
Psychology
Sociology
US and World History 1848 thru WWI
US and World History 1920 thru Present
World Cultures
Architecture
Case Studies in Manufacturing
Computer Aided Drafting I , II, III, IV
Intro to Metal Materials & Processes
Intro to Wood Material & Processes
Home Maintenance
Power Technology
PreEngineering Skills
Production Systems
Robotics/CNC
TSA Technology Student Association
Technological Designs & Systems for PSSA
Emergency Medical Technician (EMT)
Study Skills
Experience Academy

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