Child Support Abuse!
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Semon

Reno, NV

#230 Sep 29, 2013
If you can't afford Kids don't have sex it's that simple. If you are a parent that truly can't take care of the kid/kids on your own, then I have this to say...give them up for adoption. Give them to people who can take care of them. Stop using the child to get back at your former spouse or the destroy them financially. Because I promise you this happens and have seen many good men few of them my friends have there lives destroyed because of it. Many people who have children and aren't truly financially strong should not have kids. By the way if your I.Q is below average you should not breed, because you will fill those wold full of stupid people who keep breeding like in the movie Idiocracy. If you can't keep your red rocket in your pocket then get a vasectomy, and woman if you cant keep the nickel between your legs, get your tubes tied. Planed parenthood will pay for it especially if you are low income.
Stu Pedaso

Erie, PA

#231 Sep 29, 2013
Semon wrote:
If you can't afford Kids don't have sex it's that simple. If you are a parent that truly can't take care of the kid/kids on your own, then I have this to say...give them up for adoption. Give them to people who can take care of them. Stop using the child to get back at your former spouse or the destroy them financially. Because I promise you this happens and have seen many good men few of them my friends have there lives destroyed because of it. Many people who have children and aren't truly financially strong should not have kids. By the way if your I.Q is below average you should not breed, because you will fill those wold full of stupid people who keep breeding like in the movie Idiocracy. If you can't keep your red rocket in your pocket then get a vasectomy, and woman if you cant keep the nickel between your legs, get your tubes tied. Planed parenthood will pay for it especially if you are low income.
If you don't want the low IQ to breed, how are we democrats supposed to increase our voter rolls? You are a racist!!
Mad Dad

Hampton, VA

#232 Nov 18, 2013
Erie resident wrote:
What about all the deadbeat dad's that do not pay and the mother ends up working 2 or more jobs to make ends meat, every side has a story.
That does not excuse women using children as their security blanket!! You would be surprised at the abuse that permeates this country from women who use their gender to accomplish their agenda without a penny going to the children. Let's not forget that in more than half of all child custody cases, there has been no spousal abuse to warrant a dissolution of marriages or removing children from a home that has been provided to them by their Father's hard work and money, only to be faced with a mother who just wants to move on out of her own selfish wants. This system is broken and if not repaired soon, will explode!! Then people will ask "What happened" It's sickening to hear people who have no idea of a situation make comments that do nothing to resolve abuse. Just do this one thing: Imagine the abuse of child support funds that never reach a child!!! Just do that and then respond to that!!!!!
Mad Dad

Hampton, VA

#233 Nov 18, 2013
That does not excuse women using children as their security blanket!! You would be surprised at the abuse that permeates this country from women who use their gender to accomplish their agenda without a penny going to the children. Let's not forget that in more than half of all child custody cases, there has been no spousal abuse to warrant a dissolution of marriages or removing children from a home that has been provided to them by their Father's hard work and money, only to be faced with a mother who just wants to move on out of her own selfish wants. This system is broken and if not repaired soon, will explode!! Then people will ask "What happened" It's sickening to hear people who have no idea of a situation make comments that do nothing to resolve abuse. Just do this one thing: Imagine the abuse of child support funds that never reach a child!!! Just do that and then respond to that!!!!!
Withheld

UK

#234 Nov 19, 2013
Mad Dad wrote:
<quoted text>That does not excuse women using children as their security blanket!! You would be surprised at the abuse that permeates this country from women who use their gender to accomplish their agenda without a penny going to the children. Let's not forget that in more than half of all child custody cases, there has been no spousal abuse to warrant a dissolution of marriages or removing children from a home that has been provided to them by their Father's hard work and money, only to be faced with a mother who just wants to move on out of her own selfish wants. This system is broken and if not repaired soon, will explode!! Then people will ask "What happened" It's sickening to hear people who have no idea of a situation make comments that do nothing to resolve abuse. Just do this one thing: Imagine the abuse of child support funds that never reach a child!!! Just do that and then respond to that!!!!!
I think I missed the legislative change that made divorce only justified in cases of spousal abuse?
Aurthor

Tulsa, OK

#235 Jan 25, 2014
You mean none of you are denied the right to work because of living in a state that promotes discrimination? Because I finally came out as gay in 2009 Ever since then I found out that the state of Oklahoma fires anyone based on orientation it's legal here. Automatically labeling me as a dead beat dad and I also get to be harassed by employers and other employees in the work place till I can no longer tolerate the harassment. I don't even tell them of my orientation but if someone sees you glance at another person then they tell their friends and so on and so forth till everyone is harassing you. There are no laws here protecting against discrimination against orientation in the work place. Yet the senator has publicly announced that she sees no problem with firing someone because they are gay.
rbeesh

Bismarck, ND

#236 Feb 17, 2014
i have seen a lot of people posting stupid crude attempts and logic here. the fact of the matter is most women abuse the system to receive more than their fair share of benefits. yes its true the bills are there even without a child, yes men are automatically the bad guys. women believe that because the womens rights movement actually worked that they are entitled to more, sister i think you are miss interpreting the word equal. women should have to provide recipts for the use of support not only from the father but also from the state. it is unfair that most states use child support to fund the welfare system because it gives the elected officals more of a push to screw men out of money unnecessarily. i belive that in order to receive child support you yourself need to maintain a active job as well as monthly UA's. to the retard that posted child support should be able to be used for whatever the custodial parent, ie. the mother, sees fit. you should be shaken until you bleed from your ears. you are the reason abuse of our welfare and child support system continues. shame on you. the fact of the matter is you should not be given help if you refuse to help yourself.
Withheld

UK

#237 Feb 19, 2014
rbeesh wrote:
i have seen a lot of people posting stupid crude attempts and logic here. the fact of the matter is most women abuse the system to receive more than their fair share of benefits. yes its true the bills are there even without a child, yes men are automatically the bad guys. women believe that because the womens rights movement actually worked that they are entitled to more, sister i think you are miss interpreting the word equal. women should have to provide recipts for the use of support not only from the father but also from the state. it is unfair that most states use child support to fund the welfare system because it gives the elected officals more of a push to screw men out of money unnecessarily. i belive that in order to receive child support you yourself need to maintain a active job as well as monthly UA's. to the retard that posted child support should be able to be used for whatever the custodial parent, ie. the mother, sees fit. you should be shaken until you bleed from your ears. you are the reason abuse of our welfare and child support system continues. shame on you. the fact of the matter is you should not be given help if you refuse to help yourself.
Where are the statistics to prove the "fact that most women abuse the system to receive more than their fair share of benefits"?
Nic

Ladson, SC

#238 Mar 11, 2014
Think, for just a moment, that every situation is different. EXAMPLE:$1000.00 a month, for 1 child who is 7 years old……HOW is that NOT enough? Child support is not income, it is SUPPORT. By the time said child is 18…child support total is $132,000. Child support should not be looked at as the only source of income, but again, as support.
Think About This wrote:
Why can't the custodial parent spend the money the way they want? Child support isn't nearly enough to help with food, clothing, shelter, utilities, transportation, and activities. Do you really think that child support is enough for a child to live on with no other source of income? The entire child support system is a joke, try calling enforcement and see if they get you anywhere, while the noncustodial parent racks up thousands of dollars in arrears, and then is late on a payment. They will tell you 'we know he's/she's 9 grand behind in support but they are paying an extra $50.00 a month to catch that up, so we'll keep tacking the money on there.' And the custodial parent gets stuck with all the fees associated with it also, like the annual federal user fee to support the enforcement officers who don't do anything but tell you to wait longer. Or the fees charged by the IRS to intercept the tax return so you can get the money that is owed to you in arrears. Yeah in the past year, I have paid $150.00 to collect the money that is owed to me & my kids. If you think that I don't look forward to that money coming into the household to help me out you are way wrong. And who do you think has paid for these children when my ex was not paying support? That's right me. And who do you think supports the children when child support payments aren't being made on time? The custodial parent! Think about it from both points of view.
myself

Erie, PA

#239 Mar 15, 2014
I was assesed a wage I have never made in my life. So for every hour I work. I only make 8$ a hour. They charge me 10$ a hour so I am losing 2$ a hour therefore only making 6$ a hour before taxes.I dont have a great job, im a factory worker, but that doesnt give them the right to make it that I cant afford a place of my own. I pay for all medical bills and private tuition. I do not get credit for anything. The mother of my child quit her job once she started getting child support because in her words she doesnt need to work anymore. She does not do any community or any activities with our son for that matter. She sits at the bar drinking. My son has told me he doesnt have cloths that fit him so I buy him clothes. But my son knows his mother is at the bar everynight. While she gets "babysitters" to watch our child. But she doesnt pay for anything and support was never meant to totally support the other person. So they do not have to work. I have not paid support for 10years. And my kid's mom gets mad one day and goes and files with the piece of sh&t house ruining Paige the carpet muncher peasley. Who turned a simple matter into a 3 year custody battle. Getting continuance after continuance. They lied in every court motion we were in. Ocy investigated the mother and she refused to give them 3 drug tests, refused to let ocy talk to our son. And even refused a court ordered drug test and the court did nothing. On top of that, she has been found guilty of 3 contempt of courts, didnt even show up to the last two and nothing at all happened to her, no sanction nothing. She now has 2 more pending(contempts)and I am going to file 2 more because she wont follow a custody order that was put in place a month ago. Will anything happen to her no. Will she keep breaking Custody yes. Why wouldnt she nothing has happened so far. So she feels invinciable at the moment. I would to if I got away with all that. Then me as a father can bet everything I have if the roles were reversed they would have thrown the book at me so to speak. SUPPORT WAS NEVER MEANT THAT ONE PARENT WORKS TO PAY THE OTHERS BILLS. And after I pay this redickulous support order. I wont have enough money to have a place for me and my son to live. How is that right. Now I only have 1 kid and am made to pay 580$ a month. Even though I pay for private school, medical(she lets his insurance lapse every 6 months) and cloths and every thing else for my son. O and our custody is 58% her,42% me. So I do have custody of my son.I know people who do not have any custody of their child and dont pay that much. I know ppl who own their own business and dnt pay that much. I know someone who has 3 kids and doesnt pay that much. Stuff is really biased and one-sided at THE ERIE COURTHOUSE!!!!!!!! I even tried to show all my reicpts that I kept and nobody would look at them. I had this stupid lady Leanne Peterson and all she said was I wnt look at that, I say why, and she says well thats from before. Duh bitch it shows that I pay for everything. same with the stupid judge. Total dick and I thought they were supposed to be non-biased. Well not in ERIE.
Crpl Agarn

New York, NY

#240 Mar 16, 2014
What you ar overlooking is how in alot of places support is a source of income
for the courts, imagine how much money they take in and hold in bank accounts
for whatever period of time investing it and collecting interest. In a lot of places
the court and it'Ss minion receive bonuses based on how much they are able to collect. The court's are also subsidized by the federal gov. for every child support
case prosecuted. In most states if you do not challenge the parenthood within
6 month's of birth you are stuck paying and cannot challenge the parenthood
if you find later the child is not yours. In alot of state they will retroactively modify
your payments without your consent or any financial bases ie. if you have be paying
for ten years and they raise you $100/ month that's callculated for remaining time
and the past ten years you have paid putting you in arrears and subject to prosecution, jail time and interest on the arrears that would make a loanshark
blush. This is abuse!
coty

Columbus, GA

#241 Mar 20, 2014
Erie resident wrote:
What about all the deadbeat dad's that do not pay and the mother ends up working 2 or more jobs to make ends meat, every side has a story.
True but The Child services leave them alone. Its those of us who pay their constantly hound. We fell a little behind on our payments but always sent them money even if it wasnt the full amount and just sent them near 1000 dollars this month to try to catch up. I just got a letter in the mail today saying after penalties and fees were over 5000 behind and this is their final notice or i get locked up. Thats messed up. Atleast im trying.
HeligKo

Overland Park, KS

#242 Oct 7, 2014
Yummy wrote:
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How many intact families can produce receipts for purchases made for their children, or spend spend their monies as they should for their families? So why should Custodial parents be held to a higher standard?
Because they are the the party receiving money from another party against the second party's will. I am perfectly capable and willing to pay for all my kids needs and many of their comforts. After my CS is paid I can't afford to rent a place large enough for my family. I have my kids nearly 1/2 the time. The court took 1 night away every 2 weeks. This doubled my support payment. When we first split I paid for everything, and even in the most expensive months it didn't reach what I pay in support. Things may be different at the low income end, but in the middle class child support usually pays for all the kids expenses. It means the other parent isn't financially responsible for the children at all, and often doesn't have a significant amount more time with them either.
Ohara

Erie, PA

#243 Oct 12, 2014
HeligKo wrote:
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Because they are the the party receiving money from another party against the second party's will. I am perfectly capable and willing to pay for all my kids needs and many of their comforts. After my CS is paid I can't afford to rent a place large enough for my family. I have my kids nearly 1/2 the time. The court took 1 night away every 2 weeks. This doubled my support payment. When we first split I paid for everything, and even in the most expensive months it didn't reach what I pay in support. Things may be different at the low income end, but in the middle class child support usually pays for all the kids expenses. It means the other parent isn't financially responsible for the children at all, and often doesn't have a significant amount more time with them either.
I've heard enough of you women crying about this.I'm paying support like many of these guys ,and too many times I see mom going cheap on the child and out partying with bulk of the money. The system needs fixed

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