Child Support Abuse!
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Obama bin Laden

Ashtabula, OH

#1 Sep 29, 2008
Let's start forcing women who collect child support to submit monthly receipts for their purchases. I am sick and tired of seeing people that work too hard for a living dish out more than half of their paychecks to some women who only got pregnant so that she can sit back and spend the money on herself.
There is ABSOLUTELY no reason that a women who is collecting child support should be out shopping a Victoria's Secret to buy lingerie or spending hundreds of dollars on new purses and shoes.
That money is supposed to be used to help support the CHILD, NOT the gold digging whore that bore him...

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Skeptic

Elizabeth, PA

#2 Sep 29, 2008
Wow, you give half of your paycheck to the less fortunate? That's very Christian of you!
Kgo

Erie, PA

#4 Sep 29, 2008
I totally agree! I think if they are not using the money for the child they should have to put it into an account for college or for the child when he/she turnes 18. Our system is a joke when it comes to fairness.
Erie resident

Erie, PA

#5 Sep 29, 2008
What about all the deadbeat dad's that do not pay and the mother ends up working 2 or more jobs to make ends meat, every side has a story.
Think About This

Ashtabula, OH

#6 Sep 29, 2008
Why can't the custodial parent spend the money the way they want? Child support isn't nearly enough to help with food, clothing, shelter, utilities, transportation, and activities. Do you really think that child support is enough for a child to live on with no other source of income? The entire child support system is a joke, try calling enforcement and see if they get you anywhere, while the noncustodial parent racks up thousands of dollars in arrears, and then is late on a payment. They will tell you 'we know he's/she's 9 grand behind in support but they are paying an extra $50.00 a month to catch that up, so we'll keep tacking the money on there.' And the custodial parent gets stuck with all the fees associated with it also, like the annual federal user fee to support the enforcement officers who don't do anything but tell you to wait longer. Or the fees charged by the IRS to intercept the tax return so you can get the money that is owed to you in arrears. Yeah in the past year, I have paid $150.00 to collect the money that is owed to me & my kids. If you think that I don't look forward to that money coming into the household to help me out you are way wrong. And who do you think has paid for these children when my ex was not paying support? That's right me. And who do you think supports the children when child support payments aren't being made on time? The custodial parent! Think about it from both points of view.
Obama bin Laden

Ashtabula, OH

#8 Sep 30, 2008
Think About This wrote:
Why can't the custodial parent spend the money the way they want? Child support isn't nearly enough to help with food, clothing, shelter, utilities, transportation, and activities. Do you really think that child support is enough for a child to live on with no other source of income? The entire child support system is a joke, try calling enforcement and see if they get you anywhere, while the noncustodial parent racks up thousands of dollars in arrears, and then is late on a payment. They will tell you 'we know he's/she's 9 grand behind in support but they are paying an extra $50.00 a month to catch that up, so we'll keep tacking the money on there.' And the custodial parent gets stuck with all the fees associated with it also, like the annual federal user fee to support the enforcement officers who don't do anything but tell you to wait longer. Or the fees charged by the IRS to intercept the tax return so you can get the money that is owed to you in arrears. Yeah in the past year, I have paid $150.00 to collect the money that is owed to me & my kids. If you think that I don't look forward to that money coming into the household to help me out you are way wrong. And who do you think has paid for these children when my ex was not paying support? That's right me. And who do you think supports the children when child support payments aren't being made on time? The custodial parent! Think about it from both points of view.
I am not talking about those parents who actually need the support, I am talking about those who abuse the system. The systems needs to understand that, even without children, a person will still have those types of bills. By having a child, those bills don't just automatically appear.

I am so sick and tired of people standing around with their hands out waiting for someone to take care of them. Come on People! Have you ever heard of personal responsibility? If you cannot afford to raise a child then you have no business engaging in sexual activity...
resident

Erie, PA

#9 Oct 1, 2008
Obama bin Laden wrote:
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I am not talking about those parents who actually need the support, I am talking about those who abuse the system. The systems needs to understand that, even without children, a person will still have those types of bills. By having a child, those bills don't just automatically appear.
I am so sick and tired of people standing around with their hands out waiting for someone to take care of them. Come on People! Have you ever heard of personal responsibility? If you cannot afford to raise a child then you have no business engaging in sexual activity...
I think that would be up to the court system to determine if the parent needs support or not they take both of your incomes and go by a percentage, and than they put a order in if the defendent does not think this amount is fear he or she can appeal it in front of a judge. I personaly need every dime of support that I get just to buy the kids a little extra and beleive me there's not a lot of dimes thrown my way.
lakerman1

Oil City, PA

#11 Oct 1, 2008
Most exes collecting child support use it properly. There are some, however, who spend it on the boyfriend. I am aware of such cases.
JMT

AOL

#13 Oct 1, 2008
Obama bin Laden wrote:
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I am so sick and tired of people standing around with their hands out waiting for someone to take care of them. Come on People! Have you ever heard of personal responsibility? If you cannot afford to raise a child then you have no business engaging in sexual activity...
You get what you vote for. Obama will make this look like a picnic. Generation after generation after generation of dependancy and ir-responsibility in exchange for votes.
Obama bin Laden

Ashtabula, OH

#14 Oct 1, 2008
ManBearPig wrote:
Marry her and keep her happy and you won't have to pay child support loser.
You get what you deserve.
Just to correct you, I am NOT married nor would I marry any uneducated hypocrite like yourself. I was merely commenting on the changes needed in the system.

Get a life you damn liberal democrat!
dtrogers

West Des Moines, IA

#15 Oct 30, 2008
I pay child support to my ex and we have 50/50 visitation with joint custody. The money he gets from me has bought him a harley, 4 horses, 3 trucks, 4 ATV's a boar hunting trip to Texas and lots of concerts...and thats just for 2008.

What have my children gotten? NOTHING!!! I've had to watch him spend their money and they suffer. He doesn't pay for school supplies, clothes, lunches. My lawyer told me to stop paying these things after I had a modification to get more visitation on paper. He used to make me pay cash to see my kids!!! Now I have them more he has more money and they get less because I can't afford to get them what they need anymore because he gets all of my $$$. He even makes more than I do and works side jobs for cash. When I call my kids they're never even with him. He wouldn't even get them holloween costumes this year and refused to take them trick or treating "cause he couldn't afford it"
Obama bin Laden wrote:
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I am not talking about those parents who actually need the support, I am talking about those who abuse the system. The systems needs to understand that, even without children, a person will still have those types of bills. By having a child, those bills don't just automatically appear.
I am so sick and tired of people standing around with their hands out waiting for someone to take care of them. Come on People! Have you ever heard of personal responsibility? If you cannot afford to raise a child then you have no business engaging in sexual activity...
Megz

Coeur D Alene, ID

#17 Apr 13, 2009
Well i can tell you that my husband and i pay $500 a month to his ex. We get to see the child only on holidays and it is a fight to do so. We have nver been late or missed a payment. She lives in low-income housing and gets food stamps (that we also pay for). We have to buy clothes, school supplies, and anything else she needs. The mother has a drinking, drug, and gambling problem that we support. On hard days at work i wish i could go have a beer, however i cant because she has to many habits that we have to support. so tell me where is the $500 a month going if we are paying for food, clothes, and she only pays $150 dollars on an apartment? I'll tell you where, pot, liquor, and the machines. However states favor the good ole mother and we cant afford to contest it.
Mark

Andover, CT

#18 May 18, 2009
I am divorced father of three children. Despite the fact my wife committed Adultery after 17 years of marriage, the court took no consideration of this fact. in 2000 our divorce was finalized. From that time I was ordered to pay $258.00 per week for three children. The 1st of three children was Emancipated by marriage at the age of 17, however I was never told of the marriage, and paid support on her for over 7 months, until I found out an filed for modification, It appears there is no way to get a credit for support over paid due to the dishonesty of the Plaintiff, this is a huge flaw in the laws of this state. Connecticut
DeaJ

United States

#19 May 19, 2009
As much as I agree that there are many women who do do not use support as intended, requiring these people to submit receipts would never work. It would only be a matter of time and they would figure out how to use that money for themselves and turn in receipts.

Now in my case...my sons father moved 6 states away when my son was 8 and stopped paying support completely. When my son was 24, imagine my shock when I suddenly began receiving support payments. I have had some family members say I should be giving this money directly to my son. I feel that I supported him all those years with no help from dear ole Dad, that money belongs to me now!
Really

Oil City, PA

#20 May 19, 2009
Megz wrote:
Well i can tell you that my husband and i pay $500 a month to his ex. We get to see the child only on holidays and it is a fight to do so. We have nver been late or missed a payment. She lives in low-income housing and gets food stamps (that we also pay for). We have to buy clothes, school supplies, and anything else she needs. The mother has a drinking, drug, and gambling problem that we support. On hard days at work i wish i could go have a beer, however i cant because she has to many habits that we have to support. so tell me where is the $500 a month going if we are paying for food, clothes, and she only pays $150 dollars on an apartment? I'll tell you where, pot, liquor, and the machines. However states favor the good ole mother and we cant afford to contest it.
If she is using drugs and drinking as you state, and you have proof, file for custody, call children's services, if you can't afford an attorney, see if you qualify for a free one, but the main question is, do you want custody of the children?
Agreed

Oil City, PA

#21 May 19, 2009
DeaJ wrote:
As much as I agree that there are many women who do do not use support as intended, requiring these people to submit receipts would never work. It would only be a matter of time and they would figure out how to use that money for themselves and turn in receipts.
Now in my case...my sons father moved 6 states away when my son was 8 and stopped paying support completely. When my son was 24, imagine my shock when I suddenly began receiving support payments. I have had some family members say I should be giving this money directly to my son. I feel that I supported him all those years with no help from dear ole Dad, that money belongs to me now!
I agree with you, the money belongs to you, it was you who took care of your child when no money was coming in, it wasn't to hand over to your child to buy all the things he thought he needed, it was to keep a roof over his head, keep him warm, keep him fed, had the support payments been paid regularly they would have been used at that time to pay for the things the child needed at that time, but since you evidently did it on your own, I would agree that money is yours to do with what you want, you will have people who will not agree with that, most of them will be the ones who pay the support, and believe the money is for the child to buy video games, expensive sneakers and whatever a child would want, they don't care that you probably struggled to care for your child and give him the extras that you could afford, had the money been paid when it should have been, you would have had less to struggle with, enjoy the money....
scammed

Erie, PA

#22 May 20, 2009
Things are changing, girls....if you have primary custody and receive any support appreciate it at this point. You want to know what the real deadbeats are doing now? Going for 50/50 custody and if all they do is lay around that is ok, they are still a daddy. So they go for 50/50 custody just to stop paying support, pawn their kids off on their family, friends, girlfriends, neighbors, whoever will take them here and there and they now have to do absolutely nothing and don't have to pay. Lawyers are really geniuses for deadbeats. Another thing to watch for-happened to my friend-her earning potential was stated at an amount she never ever made in her life, but that was just the potential, which was calculated into how much SHE PAID DEADBEAT with a 50/50 custody. Oh and of course she has to buy every single item if she ever wants her children to have anything. BEWARE MOMMIES!!!!! and of course, being lazy or letting your kids go see everyone they know (but yourself) is not illegal and is not justified to change the 50/50. So moms, appreciate it, take care of your kids, and occassionally buy yourself something special, you probably deserve it.
Chandu

Hudson, OH

#23 May 21, 2009
There's more child support abuse going on amongst the still married who blow their money in bars, casinos, and any number of things they can't afford instead of taking care of their children.

Child support payments go to the custodial parent to do with as they please. End of story.
Agreed

Oil City, PA

#24 May 21, 2009
Chandu wrote:
There's more child support abuse going on amongst the still married who blow their money in bars, casinos, and any number of things they can't afford instead of taking care of their children.
Child support payments go to the custodial parent to do with as they please. End of story.
Right you are....
Omniscient1

Beachwood, OH

#25 May 22, 2009
Chandu wrote:
There's more child support abuse going on amongst the still married who blow their money in bars, casinos, and any number of things they can't afford instead of taking care of their children.
Child support payments go to the custodial parent to do with as they please. End of story.
110% Absoultely wrong, and more chapters to be added to the story.

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