Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

There are 20 comments on the www.cnn.com story from Aug 4, 2010, titled Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage. In it, www.cnn.com reports that:

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#180476 Feb 20, 2013
Big D wrote:
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and here is why you talk about polygamy, how you can relate that to not allowing gay marriage.
Jeffery Dhamer was not involved in a same sex marriage, he didnít use same sex marriage as the "excuse" for his crimes, he is not the face of same sex marriage, never was. In the minds of voters he is just a criminal and has nothing to do whatsoever with same sex marriage.
Not true for your personal hero Warren Jeffs, he IS the public face of polygamy, I donít think he should be, but he is in the minds of a large number of voters. If you would just go out and get your signatures you might realize that.
There are many Islamic polygamists around the world. Many more than Christian.

Does that give polygamy a bad image in your world too? I guess so.

So far your argument seems to be polygamists are bad. And I should go out and gather signatures because no one cares except they hate it because of the ugly "face of polygamy" or something.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#180477 Feb 20, 2013
Big D wrote:
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Not true for your personal hero Warren Jeffs,
Come on, are you going to start that crap again?

Come back when you have an argument, I've heard all your ad hominem. It's stupid.
SpazzO

Covina, CA

#180478 Feb 20, 2013
SpazzO, how are the crime stats this month?
Big D

Modesto, CA

#180480 Feb 20, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Come on, are you going to start that crap again?
Come back when you have an argument, I've heard all your ad hominem. It's stupid.
What crap, no one can talk about the advances that are in the courts now over same sex marriage because of your obsessive infatuation
Big D

Modesto, CA

#180481 Feb 20, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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There are many Islamic polygamists around the world. Many more than Christian.
Does that give polygamy a bad image in your world too? I guess so.
So far your argument seems to be polygamists are bad. And I should go out and gather signatures because no one cares except they hate it because of the ugly "face of polygamy" or something.
I donít have an argument, I am not opposed, I would vote in favor if it ever came up.

I donít think all polygamists are bad, but the bad one are the only ones in the spotlight lately. You should do something about that.

It probably isnít going to come up because no one seems to be working on bringing it up from a legal perspective. We just have people totally obsessed with it that wine and complain but do nothing.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#180482 Feb 20, 2013
Sure they have, there was a case in Utah very recently. Just because you don't know about it doesn't mean it didn't happen, you are ignorant of a lot of things.

But why does it matter how many people want it or how many current court cases there are? WHY? Why do keep saying that?

Do we issue equal rights by popularity contest? Do I get to decide on your marriage?
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#180483 Feb 20, 2013
Big D wrote:
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What crap, no one can talk about the advances that are in the courts now over same sex marriage because of your obsessive infatuation
This crap: "your personal hero Warren Jeffs"

Dishonesty crap. Ad hominem.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#180484 Feb 20, 2013
Big D wrote:
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...It probably isnít going to come up because no one seems to be working on bringing it up from a legal perspective. We just have people totally obsessed with it that wine and complain but do nothing.
http://www.sltrib.com/cat/polygamy
Big D

Modesto, CA

#180485 Feb 20, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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This crap: "your personal hero Warren Jeffs"
Dishonesty crap. Ad hominem.
He has to be, you cant discuss anything else or allow anyone else to discuss anything else.

I bet you have a picture of him in a place of honor where you used to keep an American flag.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#180486 Feb 20, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
Sure they have, there was a case in Utah very recently. Just because you don't know about it doesn't mean it didn't happen, you are ignorant of a lot of things.
But why does it matter how many people want it or how many current court cases there are? WHY? Why do keep saying that?
Do we issue equal rights by popularity contest? Do I get to decide on your marriage?
Let me know how that goes, if it every comes to California or to the supreme court I will take notice.

No we are a nation of law, we donít do civil rights by popularity contest which is why your buddies in Utah are so upset that we are overturning prop 8, they wanted it to be by popularity, but they were wrong.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#180487 Feb 20, 2013
Big D wrote:
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He has to be, you cant discuss anything else or allow anyone else to discuss anything else.
I bet you have a picture of him in a place of honor where you used to keep an American flag.
That crap.

Same sex MARRIAGE, opposite sex MARRIAGE and poly MARRIAGE all deserve the same respect and consideration.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#180488 Feb 20, 2013
Now it begs the question, if your heroes in Utah are so much for marriage equality, why did they fund the campaign in California opposing it?

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#180489 Feb 20, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text><quoted text>I favor regime change in Afghanistan, down with the Taliban. This is where we differ.
It is not our duty to create or destroy governments in foreign lands. Doing so only brings us grief, death, and financial loss in the end.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#180490 Feb 20, 2013
Big D wrote:
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Let me know how that goes, if it every comes to California or to the supreme court I will take notice.
No we are a nation of law, we donít do civil rights by popularity contest which is why your buddies in Utah are so upset that we are overturning prop 8, they wanted it to be by popularity, but they were wrong.
Calm down. They are not my buddies.

I suppose you'll never apply for a job at the American Civil Liberties Union. Since you believe unpopular people don't deserve civil liberty.

Since: Mar 09

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#180491 Feb 20, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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The huge difference is that straights have an option, gays don't. However, in either case, Anal sex is inherently Harmful, unhealthy and demeaning. Moreover, MOST people don't engage in anal sex. Something about common sense...
Smirk.
Are you saying gays Have to have anal sex? No more than straights have to have vaginal sex. It isn't mandatory. There are a few other options.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#180492 Feb 20, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Calm down. They are not my buddies.
I suppose you'll never apply for a job at the American Civil Liberties Union. Since you believe unpopular people don't deserve civil liberty.
Yeah I am laughing a lot, people are starting to notice

seriously why did your "oh so concerned" buddies in Utah fund the campaign to oppose marriage equality?
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#180493 Feb 20, 2013
Big D wrote:
Now it begs the question, if your heroes in Utah are so much for marriage equality, why did they fund the campaign in California opposing it?
How do your heroes on death row in prison feel about it?
Big D

Modesto, CA

#180494 Feb 20, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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How do your heroes on death row in prison feel about it?
I donít have any heroís on death row

but it is interesting that you invoke Utah, the very state that is the champion of fundraising opposed to marriage equality.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

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#180495 Feb 20, 2013
Big D wrote:
Now it begs the question, if your heroes in Utah are so much for marriage equality, why did they fund the campaign in California opposing it?
Kody, and Mrs Brown, and Mrs Brown, and Mrs. Brown, and let's not forget Mrs. Brown, all support mmarriage equality.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#180496 Feb 20, 2013
Big D wrote:
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Yeah I am laughing a lot, people are starting to notice
seriously why did your "oh so concerned" buddies in Utah fund the campaign to oppose marriage equality?
So now your argument is shifting to the "Frankie's heroes in Utah" straw man?

They are not my heroes. I'm not going to bite.

They deserve the same civil rights as you do. Even the .005% of them that are criminals. Which is by the way the about same percentage for you, a heterosexual male.

Do you ban marriage because some men abuse their wives? Do you ban marriage because some men marry underage girls?

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