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tired of bs

United States

#1 Mar 31, 2012
Twice in 2 days i have posted on here about a certain crackhead. Twice, they have disappeared. I havent said anything in my posts any worse than what I have seen posted about other crackheads. So why is my post about J1e2s3s4i5c6a R7i8l9e0y being deleted?
Busy Body

Independence, MO

#2 Apr 1, 2012
Well, all they have to do is have a friend on the Police Force, warranted or not, message topix and have the comments taken off.

This is Moberly and I assure you, FREE SPEECH is being violated all of the time, but no one ever pushes the issue so MPD will continue to do whatever they want.

However, I do urge you to file a complaint with the Officer for Civil Rights on your free speech being violated. You do that FREE SPEECH is a constituional right?

Get on line, file a complaint and let them know that others are having the same problem.

EVERWHERE BUT MOBERLY MISSOURI

I can see if the comments are slandering someone but the best defense to slander is the TRUTH. However, that is something the under the current Police Chief and City Government, Moberly knows nothing about.

They are only interested in protecting their friends and family, even if they are involved in criminal activiity or if the truth is gonna get out.

I would venture to say, whomever you commented on, is probably related to or knows someone on City Council or Moberly Police Department......

And, this is just my opinion, one I have a legal right to give and print. So, Moberly PD--don't even think of having this deleted since I spoke against your precious Police Dept & City Council. Bunch of inadequate business people......

Also----screen print your comments!
tired of bs

United States

#3 Apr 2, 2012
What does "screen print your comments" mean and how do you do it? I was trying to let people know that Jessica Riley is a theif and a crackhead who stole from me and ran to the crack shack (in and alley between West End and Franklin St. West of Dorser to hide with her Afro-American boyfriends (yes, more than one, and one of their names is David). Since meeting this wonderful piece of humanity, i have found MANY other white bretheren who have fallen victim to her schemes and any attempt at any LEGAL remedy to the situation has been thwarted because for some reason no one will prosecute her. I didnt call the cops on her myself, but she did call them on me because I was calling her phone and saying I was making threats. I hope to run into her very soon and that will be a joyous time for me!
Busy Body

Independence, MO

#4 Apr 3, 2012
tired of bs wrote:
What does "screen print your comments" mean and how do you do it? I was trying to let people know that Jessica Riley is a theif and a crackhead who stole from me and ran to the crack shack (in and alley between West End and Franklin St. West of Dorser to hide with her Afro-American boyfriends (yes, more than one, and one of their names is David). Since meeting this wonderful piece of humanity, i have found MANY other white bretheren who have fallen victim to her schemes and any attempt at any LEGAL remedy to the situation has been thwarted because for some reason no one will prosecute her. I didnt call the cops on her myself, but she did call them on me because I was calling her phone and saying I was making threats. I hope to run into her very soon and that will be a joyous time for me!
Dear Tired of this BS, put your curser at the end of what you want to print. Then, right click HOLD down-do not let up, blue will appear and move your curser (still holding down) over the whole thread. You should turn it all blue, then hit print.......good luck!
Busy Body

Independence, MO

#5 Apr 3, 2012
Busy Body wrote:
Well, all they have to do is have a friend on the Police Force, warranted or not, message topix and have the comments taken off.
This is Moberly and I assure you, FREE SPEECH is being violated all of the time, but no one ever pushes the issue so MPD will continue to do whatever they want.
However, I do urge you to file a complaint with the Officer for Civil Rights on your free speech being violated. You do that FREE SPEECH is a constituional right?
Get on line, file a complaint and let them know that others are having the same problem.
EVERWHERE BUT MOBERLY MISSOURI
I can see if the comments are slandering someone but the best defense to slander is the TRUTH. However, that is something the under the current Police Chief and City Government, Moberly knows nothing about.
They are only interested in protecting their friends and family, even if they are involved in criminal activiity or if the truth is gonna get out.
I would venture to say, whomever you commented on, is probably related to or knows someone on City Council or Moberly Police Department......
And, this is just my opinion, one I have a legal right to give and print. So, Moberly PD--don't even think of having this deleted since I spoke against your precious Police Dept & City Council. Bunch of inadequate business people......
Also----screen print your comments!
To whomever marked my comments "nuts"etc, really? The lawsuits won against the city of Moberly does not validate my claims? Isn't it odd that this Poster mentioned the Moberly Police will do nothing about her complaints and yet, that is what other posters said too.

Isn't it odd that several people are making the same complaints, the City Council knows of similar complaints and yet,comments get marked as "nuts". Mmmmmm. Isn't it odd that you could not type any comments to REFUTE these claims? Isn't odd that you marked my comments to show that you disapprove, and yet, you could not engage in any dialog to refute the claims in words. Possibly because you know of actual instances where complaints have been refused, negelected or ignored by Moberly Police and when people do complain on topix, their comments are taken off. Funny how others are making the same claims that the City government and Police have been made aware of and yet, you mark them "nuts"?

These behaviors set a pattern of Moberly PD. If you do not like people complaining of this pattern of behavior, then please, FIX YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
tired of bs

United States

#6 Apr 3, 2012
ok, now i know what screen print is, how does it help? do u mean to literally print it onto paper?
Busy Body

Independence, MO

#7 Apr 3, 2012
tired of bs wrote:
ok, now i know what screen print is, how does it help? do u mean to literally print it onto paper?
Yes, you have right to free speech and if someone is deleting your comments, when they are not slandering anyone, then your rights are being violated. So, screenprint them onto paper and then you will have a record of your comments in case they do get deleted. At that point, you could contact Office for Civil Rights or lawyer because your right to free speech is being violated. No one should be deleting your posts unless they are false and slander someone. However, Moberly watches this and will delete posts that they do not like, question the integrity of City Government/PD or may tell the truth and get people riled up. They do not want to draw attention to themselves
tired of bs

United States

#8 Apr 6, 2012
i see that another thread/post has disappeared. this one completely unrelated 2 me. the one bout the crane accident on the railroad has vanished. poof! so much for free speech!
MOB

Bowling Green, MO

#9 Apr 6, 2012
tired of bs wrote:
i see that another thread/post has disappeared. this one completely unrelated 2 me. the one bout the crane accident on the railroad has vanished. poof! so much for free speech!
it is still on here!!
tired of bs

United States

#10 Apr 6, 2012
its back?! amazing. where did it go this morning? not a trace of it then but now its back? hmmm...
unknown

Rock Springs, WY

#11 Apr 7, 2012
tired of bs wrote:
Twice in 2 days i have posted on here about a certain crackhead. Twice, they have disappeared. I havent said anything in my posts any worse than what I have seen posted about other crackheads. So why is my post about J1e2s3s4i5c6a R7i8l9e0y being deleted?
???
London

Ballwin, MO

#12 Apr 10, 2012
The Crown Press Thread is deleted too......
junk

Columbia, MO

#13 Apr 11, 2012
all the tullous threads are gone, too. hmmmm...
Lilly Sanderson

Kansas City, MO

#14 Apr 11, 2012
The Topix website is not ran by anyone local. It is clear to see that just by looking at the vast amount of cities that have forums on here. Also, you may want to check out the Terms of Service that is on this website. Topix has the right to remove or edit anyone's threads, and another part of the terms of service is that people be polite.

Personally, I think freedom of speech goes out the window when you type things about people on a website without even leaving your name. If you have something important to say, and your are a credible person, then there is no reason why you shouldn't be putting your name behind your facts.

I will never take anyone seriously, or believe a word they say about someone when they write things and can't even put their name behind what they say. I have no idea whether the person is a credible source, if they are known for lying, or if they have some alterior motive for saying the things they are saying about that person.

With that said, if you write anything about another person on a website, without having any facts or evidence to back up your claims, then you are guilty of slandering their character, and that person may report your comments to Topix and ask them to have your comments removed. If this is upsetting to you, I would suggest not using this site any longer.

Since: Mar 12

Kansas City, MO

#15 Apr 11, 2012
All the threads about amanda powell are gone too...and all the things said about her were true...very true..
KC GAL

Independence, MO

#16 Apr 11, 2012
Lilly Sanderson wrote:
The Topix website is not ran by anyone local. It is clear to see that just by looking at the vast amount of cities that have forums on here. Also, you may want to check out the Terms of Service that is on this website. Topix has the right to remove or edit anyone's threads, and another part of the terms of service is that people be polite.
Personally, I think freedom of speech goes out the window when you type things about people on a website without even leaving your name. If you have something important to say, and your are a credible person, then there is no reason why you shouldn't be putting your name behind your facts.
I will never take anyone seriously, or believe a word they say about someone when they write things and can't even put their name behind what they say. I have no idea whether the person is a credible source, if they are known for lying, or if they have some alterior motive for saying the things they are saying about that person.
With that said, if you write anything about another person on a website, without having any facts or evidence to back up your claims, then you are guilty of slandering their character, and that person may report your comments to Topix and ask them to have your comments removed. If this is upsetting to you, I would suggest not using this site any longer.
Lilly, you are misinformed. Topix will take off comments if the Police or an Attorney asks them to. It does not mean that the comments are false or that they constitute slander.
All this means is if the truth is put on Topix and someone from one of these areas asks that it be taken down, Topix will oblige because they do not like lawsuits and Supeonas. THAT IS ALL.
It does NOT mean that the information is false.
Sure, maybe in some cases.
Lets not forget, some comments being taken down are OPINIONS.
No one asks for evidence, so how would you know if someone is making claims without any? Do you think that the person commenting is asked to show evidence of their claims BEFORE the comments are taken down? No, they are not. Therefore, they are taken down without knowing if the information is false or not. Therefore, free speech is being squashed in Moberly Mo.

I have copied and pasted public legal documents proving what I have claimed and guess what? The Officials that they were about did not want them on here and had them taken down.

Just because you do not like what someone says about you does not mean that it is slanderous or false. In fact, it is pretty hard to combat someone's OPINION. Court's have upheld that an opinion is an opinion. Slander cannot even be combatted unless one can prove that the slanderous comments were untrue caused them hardship in some way. Therefore, if I call someone a "dishonest person", and their spouse does not leave them, they do not lose their job over it or there are no reprecussions from my comments, there are NO DAMAGES.

Furthermore, these are people's opinions and we do not need you to tell us that we should not use TOPIX if we do not like it. It is a public Forum and if you do not like what we are saying, then please, maybe YOU should not use Topix or read the comments.
Lilly Sanderson

Kansas City, MO

#17 Apr 11, 2012
KC GAL wrote:
<quoted text> Lilly, you are misinformed. Topix will take off comments if the Police or an Attorney asks them to. It does not mean that the comments are false or that they constitute slander.
All this means is if the truth is put on Topix and someone from one of these areas asks that it be taken down, Topix will oblige because they do not like lawsuits and Supeonas. THAT IS ALL.
It does NOT mean that the information is false.
Sure, maybe in some cases.
Lets not forget, some comments being taken down are OPINIONS.
No one asks for evidence, so how would you know if someone is making claims without any? Do you think that the person commenting is asked to show evidence of their claims BEFORE the comments are taken down? No, they are not. Therefore, they are taken down without knowing if the information is false or not. Therefore, free speech is being squashed in Moberly Mo.
I have copied and pasted public legal documents proving what I have claimed and guess what? The Officials that they were about did not want them on here and had them taken down.
Just because you do not like what someone says about you does not mean that it is slanderous or false. In fact, it is pretty hard to combat someone's OPINION. Court's have upheld that an opinion is an opinion. Slander cannot even be combatted unless one can prove that the slanderous comments were untrue caused them hardship in some way. Therefore, if I call someone a "dishonest person", and their spouse does not leave them, they do not lose their job over it or there are no reprecussions from my comments, there are NO DAMAGES.
Furthermore, these are people's opinions and we do not need you to tell us that we should not use TOPIX if we do not like it. It is a public Forum and if you do not like what we are saying, then please, maybe YOU should not use Topix or read the comments.
Your sure got your panty's all in a twist over my comment. You seemed to take my comment very personally. First off, you DO NOT need an attorney to have comments taken down. The comments can be true or false, it does not matter. If you do not like what a person posts, there is no need to retain a lawyer. Just simply report the abuse on the comment you do not like, and write that the person has violated the terms of service.

Next, I was not saying that every person who writes things about people is writing false statements. I said that for me personally, I have a hard time believing anything a person says when they can't even put their name behind it. You would have to be a complete idiot to believe anything you read on a website that doesn't have the name of the person who is making the accusations next to it. Personally, I think it is slander to write negative comments about a person on a website, and I think it always has the potential to cause damages.

I suggested that certain people may not want to use TOPIX anymore, because they were upset about their freedom of speech being violated. The terms of service include that TOPIX has the right to delete any comments on here, so that is why I suggested they may not want to use this site. If it is causing so much anxiety for people, I am not sure why they would want to use it anyhow. Is it really that big of a deal that they get to bash people they don't like on a public forum??

As for me, I will not lose any sleep over anything TOPIX related. I am not the one complaining about the site, or accusing it of having some conspiracy to cover up juicy stories that involve local public figures. So, since I am not the one getting upset with TOPIX, I see no reason why I should stop using the site. I must point out that you contradicted yourself. You said that this is a site for people to share their OPINIONS, but then get upset with me for sharing my own. Make up your mind. Try not to get so stressed out over a silly little TOPIX thread, it is really not that serious.
KC GAL

Independence, MO

#18 Apr 11, 2012
Lilly Sanderson wrote:
<quoted text>
Your sure got your panty's all in a twist over my comment. You seemed to take my comment very personally. First off, you DO NOT need an attorney to have comments taken down. The comments can be true or false, it does not matter. If you do not like what a person posts, there is no need to retain a lawyer. Just simply report the abuse on the comment you do not like, and write that the person has violated the terms of service.
Next, I was not saying that every person who writes things about people is writing false statements. I said that for me personally, I have a hard time believing anything a person says when they can't even put their name behind it. You would have to be a complete idiot to believe anything you read on a website that doesn't have the name of the person who is making the accusations next to it. Personally, I think it is slander to write negative comments about a person on a website, and I think it always has the potential to cause damages.
I suggested that certain people may not want to use TOPIX anymore, because they were upset about their freedom of speech being violated. The terms of service include that TOPIX has the right to delete any comments on here, so that is why I suggested they may not want to use this site. If it is causing so much anxiety for people, I am not sure why they would want to use it anyhow. Is it really that big of a deal that they get to bash people they don't like on a public forum??
As for me, I will not lose any sleep over anything TOPIX related. I am not the one complaining about the site, or accusing it of having some conspiracy to cover up juicy stories that involve local public figures. So, since I am not the one getting upset with TOPIX, I see no reason why I should stop using the site. I must point out that you contradicted yourself. You said that this is a site for people to share their OPINIONS, but then get upset with me for sharing my own. Make up your mind. Try not to get so stressed out over a silly little TOPIX thread, it is really not that serious.
Again, with your misinformation: Taken from Terms of Service---
You agree that we are not liable for any content that is provided or posted by you or others.
We have no duty to pre-screen your content or the content of others, but we have the right to refuse to post or to edit submitted content.

Question to you--If Topix is not liable for content then why would they take their employee's time to read complaints and delete posts just because Joe Blow fills out a form and whines about it?

The only way that they are going to spend employee time on this is if a School or Law Enforcement asks them to.
Who is going to have comments about law enforcement not doing their jobs and being dishonest taken off---except for law enforcement? Do you really think TOPIX is monitoring every word and doing that on their own?

People have their Attornies contact Topix all the time, I have had friends do it because Topix may refuse a person but will take comments off for Attornies. They WILL REFUSE 2delete

Topix is a forum for opinions and thoughts about communities. That is the purpose of the forum. People post about topics that are important to them. Some is just gossip and mean. Some are just exchanges of information. But this is America and we can do that.

If you choose not to, then please, don't come and read the comments in the forum and then bitch about how lame people are for being on here. Isn't that a contradiction?

I did not contradict myself at all. I did not complain about TOPIX and then come and read/comment/put people down for being on it, because, that would mean I was partaking in the very activity I was complaining about. Which is what you did.

You have the right to your OPINION and your FREE SPEECH, but don't condemn others for doing the same.

Furthermore, my panties are nice and neat, however, yours seem to be pretty bunched up by the sound of your last post.
Common sense x2

Independence, MO

#19 Apr 12, 2012
Lilly Sanderson wrote:
<quoted text>
Your sure got your panty's all in a twist over my comment. You seemed to take my comment very personally. First off, you DO NOT need an attorney to have comments taken down. The comments can be true or false, it does not matter. If you do not like what a person posts, there is no need to retain a lawyer. Just simply report the abuse on the comment you do not like, and write that the person has violated the terms of service.
Next, I was not saying that every person who writes things about people is writing false statements. I said that for me personally, I have a hard time believing anything a person says when they can't even put their name behind it. You would have to be a complete idiot to believe anything you read on a website that doesn't have the name of the person who is making the accusations next to it. Personally, I think it is slander to write negative comments about a person on a website, and I think it always has the potential to cause damages.
I suggested that certain people may not want to use TOPIX anymore, because they were upset about their freedom of speech being violated. The terms of service include that TOPIX has the right to delete any comments on here, so that is why I suggested they may not want to use this site. If it is causing so much anxiety for people, I am not sure why they would want to use it anyhow. Is it really that big of a deal that they get to bash people they don't like on a public forum??
As for me, I will not lose any sleep over anything TOPIX related. I am not the one complaining about the site, or accusing it of having some conspiracy to cover up juicy stories that involve local public figures. So, since I am not the one getting upset with TOPIX, I see no reason why I should stop using the site. I must point out that you contradicted yourself. You said that this is a site for people to share their OPINIONS, but then get upset with me for sharing my own. Make up your mind. Try not to get so stressed out over a silly little TOPIX thread, it is really not that serious.
That's funny, other people seem to complain about the same "conspiracey", as you put it:
And just to clarify, it seems that the poster was saying the local crooks are covering for their bad behavior and covering for each other.... Not that TOPIX is covering for anyone! Comprehend?

CommonSenseIsASuperpower wrote:

I don't trust anyone in power in that area. None of them. City bureaucracy all in it to line their pockets and help their friends. Justice system is a joke - bunch of good old boys who have decided outcomes long before anything goes to trial - mostly based on money and biases. Prosecutor? I don't even need to talk about that scumbag, it's all self-evident. Judges? In it to boost their own careers and will ruin lives to see it done. Sheriff? Will go out of his way to bust people just trying to get by while ignoring his own family members growing pot out by Huntsville. It's a pathetic mess and I'm glad I am no longer a part of it.
Lilly Sanderson

Kansas City, MO

#20 Apr 12, 2012
You must not be understanding my point. This thread was about peoples posts being deleted and how that violates their freedom of speech. To that, I gave my opinion that it is within the rights of this website to delete posts, because they have included this into their terms of service for the website. Since you have obviously taken the time to read the terms of service, then I am not sure what you are arguing about? It says right there that they can edit or choose not to post comments. That has been my point from the start.

Also, I am sorry that your friend had to get the help of an attorney, but it really was not necessary. Just give it a try. You can click on my comments that you don't like if you want. Just report the abuse and say that it violates the terms of service. The posts will be gone within a day or two. I assure you I am not an attorney, or a person with any power at all.

I can see your reasoning behind your argument, I just have to diagree because I know for a fact that you do not have to be important or use an attorney to have a post removed. If you were offended by my smart-ass comment, I apologize. I suppose I sunk to the level of the comments that I was responding to. My first post was simply giving my opinion, and the facts that I know about the site. I had no idea that anyone would be so angry and take it so personally that I am not upset about posts being deleted. I thought that this was a discussion.

I also never called anyone lame. I just gave a suggestion. Still not sure how that is any different from what you did? I said that if you feel you rights are violated, and his website is upsetting, then if it were me, I would not even use this website anymore. Again, not sure how that is so offensive. The fact is, this website is going to continue to delete posts that are reported as abuse, so if this is something that you feel is a violation of your rights, then I truly think you probably would be happier if you boycotted the site. The problem with typing, is that things get read and taken the wrong way.

It is obvious that this is an issue that is very important to some of you, so I am just going to have to respect your opinions and leave it at that. This website is not as important to me, so it is not necessary for me to discuss the issue any further. Things get taken way to personally, and read the wrong way. I apologize for the panty comment, that was my sarcastic side coming out after being so suprised that my comments actually made people angry. Sorry if it offended you.

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