'Mother without hope' needs help

'Mother without hope' needs help

There are 36 comments on the Meridian Star story from Apr 7, 2007, titled 'Mother without hope' needs help. In it, Meridian Star reports that:

My 27-year-old son is struggling with an addiction to pain medications and has upon several occasions lost consciousness and been hospitalized.

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MAPS

Kalispell, MT

#32 Sep 22, 2007
Here is the link for the drugs that can cause Torsades des Pointes. You will be amazed at the list. A regluarly used drugs such as Erythomyicin is even on the list....so you cant say rip a drug that has done so much good, I mean more good than bad right off the market because of one issue such as TdP

http://www.arizonacert.org/medical-pros/drug-... #
MAPS

Kalispell, MT

#33 Sep 22, 2007
Reetz, I had not seen your post before I wrote mine because I was so flippin ...well you know..LOLOLOL

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MAPS

Kalispell, MT

#34 Sep 22, 2007
I had my post disappear so I hope it shows up sometime. I am not going to rewrite it as it basically said what you said Reetz, but my point of view..and well not quite as congenial as it could have. Been a rough weekend for me. Call me and I will let you know about the follow-up sleep study. NOT GOOD RESULTS AGAIN. UGHHHHHHHH!!!! This LUPUS is really kicking my ass!!!!

“If you Believe,You can Achieve”

Since: Dec 06

Fort Atkinson, WI

#35 Sep 23, 2007
MAPS....
I am seeing that the #31 post is missing, so I am gathering that was your post,MAPS ??
My goodness, it couldn't have been that bad....
too sad.
karen archer

Dillon, SC

#38 Nov 5, 2007
I will continue to take a stand against Methadone. I think it,s potential for abuse is too great,ranging from the selling of Methadone or to people mixing drugs with it. Also the risk of children getting hold of it. Not to mention accidents after people are dosed at a clinic.6% of our society carry a gene that would make this drug cardiotoxic to them! How do you determine who these people would be? Methadone may have proven affective for Heroin patients: however I continue to believe the administration of Methadone should be monitored closely- no one should be given take home doses too much risk for abuse. I do believe as a society we should work to make inpatient drug rehab available to everyone. This focus should be on detox ,using drugs to taper people off drugs: not encouraging a life time of drug use.Their are stidies being done of the brain & how to decrase the cravings R/t drug addiction Alcohol Food etc...I continue to believe, we must work together to find a better solution for drug addiction.
bethc

Kansas City, MO

#39 Nov 5, 2007
Karen, Yes, you can stop taking the medication, the difficult part is to live a decent life after you do that. Addiction is a brain disease, you think that "Inpatient Drug Re-hab" should be made available to everyone, how many times should a person be allowed to fail? Do you know the failure rate of the "traditional re-hab"? Do you know the cost of such failure, in human lives, financial,mental and just the disappointmentthat you feel when you realize that almost 95% of people who do re-hab fail. How many of those people die or then have legal problems? I would like to hear more about your plan, but know that untreated addictions cause far more deaths than Methadone.
karen archer

United States

#40 Nov 8, 2007
I agree with you that inpatient treatment is very expensive, but I do believe everyone should have the opportunity for inpatient drug rehab, not repeated stays. I do not believe that Methadone should be the first treatment used. I know that detox alone will not fix the problem: extensive counseling will be needed. A program such as AA will have to be put in place for the rest of their lifes. I watched a program this week that showed a scientist working on crack addiction, he placed the patient in the crack house using videos. Then applied a stimulus to decrease cravings.I feel their is hope if we all work together for a solution. I have been reading many articles and studies done: one report from a forensic pathologist related to autopsies revealed that whether the drug was taken by children or alone or in combination such as poly drug abuse that 60% of the deaths were linked to genetic mutations! I do not have all the answers,however its obvious our current treatment is not working Pray that God heals and will give us the ability to find a solution.
karen archer

United States

#41 Nov 8, 2007
Error in previous statnent, Death related to genetic links.
bethc

Kansas City, MO

#42 Nov 9, 2007
Knowing that the failure of in Patient re-hab is at some 90-95% failure rate, I feel that some drastic changes should be put into place before I could ever suggest that some one go through that. MAny of them exsist as a "warehouse" to just get them off of the streets and keep them safe for a period of time. I agree that intensive counseling is needed, but AA/NA is not really intensive counseling, or even treatment, but more so a support group. Some people are helped by it, so for that group of people they have done some good and at no cost so it is available to all who will attend. I do think that a person should have some intensive counseling and a medical workup and that MMT should not be used as the first line of treatment. Are you comparing Methamphetamine to Methadone? Not so sure about your comparisons or even if it was? As for limiting "take home doses" because some other person may have access to the Medication? Tobacco kills over 1000 people a day, Alcohol kills some 600 people a day, yet these do not treat a disease and are available to all. Better yet we have a massive educational move to educate people! Many people have been able to improve their lives and have turned their lives around and are employed, taxpaying, law abiding citizens. People who have done the re-hab visits over and over, gone through counseling for years on end, been prescribed antidepressants and attended AA/NA for years, all to feel miserable and like they have failed, many of these people have been able to take the Medication Methadone and have been able to live their lives to the fullest. To make these people have to go somewhere everday to get their medication is just too much. Many people have to drive very far distances to get their medication, adding that cost to the allready high cost treatment. If that were the case, many people would have to stop taking the only medication that has worked for them and risk everything that they have worked for.
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karen archer

United States

#43 Nov 10, 2007
I emphasise with what your saying, but I cannot ignore the recent surge of deaths related to methadone! My son was one of those people. I do think it is far more dangerous than alcohol or tobacco.Coroners are also puzzled by the mass casualties!Evidently some people carry a gene that causes them not to excrete or metabolize drugs at the same rate.Some people may be responsible for take home doses, but many are not: how do we justify such a potent med on the street! I do believe Education is the Key- I think they should publicise the Pro- Con of Methadone so everyone will be aware of the dangers before begining treatment with this drug. I also think that just like they have you sign a paper telling you not to mix it with benzoids or antidepressants; they should also have you sign a waiver related to the risk of death and cardiotoxicity related to geneology. Then if you decided to seek treatment you would be well informed of the risk! Many people think Methadone clinics are designed to taper people off drugs. The reality is you will probably remain on this drug the rest of your life and the public should be made aware of this.
Not Applicable

United States

#44 Jan 19, 2008
My ex-husband died in Jan. 08. He had already had several back surgeries. He began taking Lortab, that was back in 2001. He was never quite able to completely quit. His mother was just as addicted as he was. I feel like I threw him out to the wolves when we divorced, because he ended up living with her and that is where he died. I have felt if someone had really taken the time to just wrap him with love and supportive people he would still be here. I think back to when we did divorce, he was no where near as bad as he was lately. He was only 33. I truly feel that he could have been saved and I had completely quit trying.
karen archer wrote:
MY son died June20,2006. cause of death a drug induced cardiac arrhythmia. He was 22 years old.I cant describe in words the pain a mother feels. My mother says, if you survive this you can deal with anything because their is no greater loss. I have searched my soul to find answers to this Methadone problem. I continue to believe its use is too dangerous for the general public due to increased risk related to problems with the heart. I realize that drug addicted patients become very sick,and need somthing when they have no drugs.Our society needs a wake up call, our children are dying. How can we help them? I feel that addicts are very valuable people,and deserve the right to a healthy happy life.I refuse to believe that once an addict always an addict.I dont have the answers but pray that God will heal, and give us the knowledge to save a dying society.
Not Applicable

United States

#45 Jan 19, 2008
Please remove my comment. I do not want to offend his family.
karen archer wrote:
MY son died June20,2006. cause of death a drug induced cardiac arrhythmia. He was 22 years old.I cant describe in words the pain a mother feels. My mother says, if you survive this you can deal with anything because their is no greater loss. I have searched my soul to find answers to this Methadone problem. I continue to believe its use is too dangerous for the general public due to increased risk related to problems with the heart. I realize that drug addicted patients become very sick,and need somthing when they have no drugs.Our society needs a wake up call, our children are dying. How can we help them? I feel that addicts are very valuable people,and deserve the right to a healthy happy life.I refuse to believe that once an addict always an addict.I dont have the answers but pray that God will heal, and give us the knowledge to save a dying society.
mike

United States

#47 Jan 19, 2008
rdd wrote:
I have experienced first hand a family member who turned to a Methadone clinic for help with an addiction to pain meds. she would go in to get "dosed" when she was so high that she could hardly stand, they dosed her anyway. Once she even passed out inside the clinic, the called 911, and sent her to ER, dosed her the next day. As long as they have the money to pay, there seems to be little care for the actual well being of these patients. My story does not have a happy ending, her addictions resulted in her death at age 32, she left 3 beautiful children, and family that loved her very much. I believe Methadone can help, but you have to leave everything else alone, and follow the guidelines. when mixed with other substances, it is VERY deadly, and should be considered so. But it is also the way that the government has gotten their hand in the till, the money made off of a single methadone clinic is astronomical. I read all their pamphlets and Methadone is actually made from Morphine and synthetic Heroine. The government makes it, sells it, and gets rich off other peoples cry for help. In reality, the government is peddling something that is illegal on the streets, but it's legal for them. All in all, the way you use it is the determining factor in whether it helps or hurts. Best wishes to all who are addicted.
I absolutely agree with you. And the clinic I am familiar with is run the same way. People are dosed only if they have the money with little else considered. It is wrong, and although there are some people who are there for the right reasons, most are there for a legal dealer. There are happy endings and unhappy ones, and people at that clinic are truly uneducated about ANY harmful effects of taking the drug. Sorry for your loss, I wish you the best.
Basillio

Montgomery, AL

#48 Jan 19, 2008
To Not Applicable, I don't know if this post is too long or too controversial but for the 4th time, I'd like to say, you didn't throw your husband to the wolves, the medical community did. Back surgery is very painful, and lortab is a poor excuse of a drug for that kind of pain. I do have some experience in this field. I was one of the first RNs to become certified in palliative care. If someone is pain controlled they use less medication, heal, faster and can return to there life sooner. Your ex should have been monitored closely and pain assessed frequently. Do you know how much time they spend in med school on pain management? In 1996 it was less then 30 minutes, and avoid opiates if at all possible. Your husband was probably having symptoms of pseudo-addiction. It is a phenomenon that occurs when people in severe pain act out like drug addicts. He had physical dependence, but that is different than addiction. I was a pharmacy tech in the USAF and graduated summa cum Laud from the Univ of Tx. Never took a pill in my life. Then I was diagnosed with a painful autoimmune disease, but no pain meds for me. So I went to the methadone clinic, it didn't do much for the pain,but I felt better. I spent 300 hours studying pain management before this happened and know it improves the immune system, can slow or stop the growth of a cancerous tumor. I'm pretty lazy now but I'll dig up the research because no doctor or media group want you to hear it. I took care of a woman with a tumor the size of a football. she slept kneeling down with her head on a chair. The Dr. gave me full range on controlling her pain. She lived a wonderful life for 10 more years and her tumor did stop growing according to her CAT scans. The same people I gave my life's work to, turned their backs on me in my hour of need. The medical community is responsible for making a generation of drug addicts, by not medicating appropriately for pain. I guess it's because there's a war on drugs. Morphine and methadone are pretty safe when taken appropriately. Take a bottle of aspirin or tylenol and you'll probably never have a headache again. Narcotics do have a place in society, but no one wants to admit it. Peace be to you.
defender of methadone

United States

#49 May 10, 2009
reetz1960 wrote:
Karen,
I am truly sorry of your loss, I swear I am, but much of the first half of your post was wrong.
You say that methadone can't be mixed with anything. What?? Of course it can. It simply cannot be mixed with some benzo's and alcohol.
Highest legal dose is 120mg? Where did you hear that? I personally know of people who are on from 170-280mg. I'm not bragging, I am simply stating the truth.
95% of the people will mix drugs w/methadone? That is ridiculous. Where did you get that data from?
Most people will relapse because this is part of the "addiction process"? That is simply untrue. You might have a problem telling that to the hundreds of thousands of addicts who have NOT relapsed. Again, where are you getting your research?
Then you said that methadone is now being used for "every addiction". No, it isn't! It is used for "Opiate" addiction.
Everyone has a right to their own opinion, but when we state facts, let's get the facts straight please.
It is because of many people who go around spreading their own perception of methadone and the truth about it and calling it the truth that starts all of the bad publicity that comes with it. Many people believe simply because it is written. It's simpler than finding out the truth.
Methadone was brought to the US in 1947 and commercial production was introduced by US company Eli-Lilly, so obviously, Methadone has been used well over 50 years....in fact, nearly 60 years.
As I said, I truly am sorry. But if the truth is going to be told, please make sure it IS the truth.
this is where it all started to go wrong.maps is pp.
liz

Calgary, Canada

#50 May 24, 2009
i cannot believe how all of you are so quick to judge when have any of you experienced the actual addiction itself. with any substance theres a line people to cross to abuse it. methadone can either help people or hurt them, depending on how the person that takes it chooses. i have been addicted to oxys for 5 yearas. i was living on the streets ,i am now on methadon andit has changed my life 4 the better. i live normaly, havea job and dont do drugs.pleasethink twice.

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