EPCC plans another 2 early college hi...

EPCC plans another 2 early college high schools

There are 36 comments on the El Paso Times story from Aug 17, 2008, titled EPCC plans another 2 early college high schools. In it, El Paso Times reports that:

A successful community college program that allows high-school students to graduate with both a diploma and an associate's degree will begin at two new campuses Aug.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at El Paso Times.

First Prev
of 2
Next Last
walt phillips

El Paso, TX

#1 Aug 17, 2008
What a super program that only adds to the proof that our young can do, and will do, great in the world. Giving them an added incentive to actually be able to graduate with a four year degree at the tender age of 19 or 20 is awesome.
We just can't say enough great things about EPCC and their great visionary leadership. I salute all of you.
frugal mom

El Paso, TX

#4 Aug 18, 2008
I love this program! As expensive as higher education is we are so lucky to have this wonderful opportunity for our children. Keep up the good work, EPCC!
concerned

United States

#5 Aug 18, 2008
Are you kidding!!! We can't graduate 43% of our kids from high school, we have the biggest drop out rate in the State, and our kids cannot pass the TAKS..........
stumped

El Paso, TX

#6 Aug 18, 2008
I'm curious as to which major university will accept this program.
Jane

Colorado Springs, CO

#7 Aug 18, 2008
This is just another way to give Mexican illegal alien students a college education…courtesy U.S. tax payers. BTW: The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is a financial backer of La Raza.
TheStudent

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#8 Aug 18, 2008
This is one of those things that is not fair. I struggled to maintain a 4.0 average while attending EPCC and get an associates degree. They may get the degree, but they will not be qualified because they are still too young. If they get an associates degree with a high school diploma, how about giving me a masters degree with my bachelors?
Twig

El Paso, TX

#9 Aug 18, 2008
Are home-schooled children eligible for this program?
mclencho

El Paso, TX

#10 Aug 18, 2008
stumped wrote:
I'm curious as to which major university will accept this program.
I believe any school in the UT system is required to accept the credits, anyone have more info?
Gringo

El Paso, TX

#11 Aug 18, 2008
jUTEP and EPCC have an agreement. Therefore, sinct UTep is in the UT system then the credits will be honored. Also by extension, the regional accredition that accredits jUTEP will also transfer. Someone state 43% can not graduate. That is fine I too like to get my car washed and go to Mickey D's. At least 57% will have this chance.
maybenot

Troy, MI

#12 Aug 18, 2008
For those seeking difficult majors, this program will be best as a college preparation program. The environment sounds like one that would really value education and a college degree.

Many of those 60 credits however could be used to "water down" their major-intensive semester's in college. If not, their GPA could take a hit.

In transferring from EPCC to UTEP, you experience an increase in the difficulty of your coursework. Doing so from a high school program to a University would definately have similar results.

If the student decides to take less courses, they may not be eligible for scholarships or financial aid.

Their GPA will not transfer, so their scholarship eligibility will depend on their university GPA. As such, that A in English would have helped bring up that C in organic chemistry, microbiology, etc.)
Gringo

El Paso, TX

#13 Aug 18, 2008
maybenot wrote:
For those seeking difficult majors, this program will be best as a college preparation program. The environment sounds like one that would really value education and a college degree.
Many of those 60 credits however could be used to "water down" their major-intensive semester's in college. If not, their GPA could take a hit.
In transferring from EPCC to UTEP, you experience an increase in the difficulty of your coursework. Doing so from a high school program to a University would definately have similar results.
If the student decides to take less courses, they may not be eligible for scholarships or financial aid.
Their GPA will not transfer, so their scholarship eligibility will depend on their university GPA. As such, that A in English would have helped bring up that C in organic chemistry, microbiology, etc.)
The main thing is they take care of the first two years of the BS classes like English, Science, Math, Social Studies, and Humanities. Once you knock out those Freshman type classes, you can start on your real major.

Since: Apr 08

El Paso

#14 Aug 18, 2008
I hope its only for Americans and Legal Residents. NO illegals or Border Crossers allowed, I hope the school screens their applicants well.
TheStudent

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#15 Aug 18, 2008
Since being in UTEP I have seen students use their relatives adress in order to get more financial aid. They get an $800.00 refund and I end up owing $200.00. That's not fair. I work hard and end up paying. While they slack off and get greatly compensated for lying on their application. UTEP does not do a good job in screening individuals.
Mike

Las Cruces, NM

#16 Aug 18, 2008
Gringo wrote:
jUTEP and EPCC have an agreement. Therefore, sinct UTep is in the UT system then the credits will be honored. Also by extension, the regional accredition that accredits jUTEP will also transfer. Someone state 43% can not graduate. That is fine I too like to get my car washed and go to Mickey D's. At least 57% will have this chance.
stupidest thing I've read all day.
HootyWho

El Paso, TX

#17 Aug 18, 2008
Kool! I'm all for more schools to educate people of all ages. Keep truckin!
someone who knows

Florence, AL

#18 Aug 18, 2008
There is so much you don't know about this program. Most of the students are already at-risk. Other programs around the country funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Program are finding that the students do ok with High School classes, but when they enter college classes they struggle and often fail. This is because they do not have the same one-on-one connection with the instructors. Of course not. EPCC has one of the highest part-time instructor rates in the country. They are paid very little, have absolutely no part of any decision-making, no one cares how they teach, and yet they teach most of the students. How is that for setting students up for failure. EPCC is just taking the money, but they have a very low success rate with non-high school students. I'm waiting to see how they are going to make this one work. Lesson: how to make failure look like success -- use rhetoric.
TheStudent

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#19 Aug 18, 2008
Wow. Make failure look like siccess. What they are trying to do is help the studenst who don't care care even less.
concerned as well

United States

#20 Aug 18, 2008
concerned wrote:
Are you kidding!!! We can't graduate 43% of our kids from high school, we have the biggest drop out rate in the State, and our kids cannot pass the TAKS..........
I am concerned as well. This is so true.
someone

El Paso, TX

#21 Aug 18, 2008
TheStudent wrote:
Since being in UTEP I have seen students use their relatives adress in order to get more financial aid. They get an $800.00 refund and I end up owing $200.00. That's not fair. I work hard and end up paying. While they slack off and get greatly compensated for lying on their application. UTEP does not do a good job in screening individuals.
turn them in with proof!
Ti-Ti-Di

United States

#22 Aug 18, 2008
This is retarded. As it is, most of the EPCC students are failures once they get to UTEP or a REAL university.

At EPCC most profs test on the power points, give a bunch of extra credit and don't even require a book.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker
First Prev
of 2
Next Last

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Mission Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
News Fleeing violence and corruption, Hondurans with... Apr 19 Send em back 2 Ho... 29
Looking for hapiness (Apr '17) Apr 18 Angie 3
News Sessions orders 'zero tolerance' policy to pros... Apr 17 Fart Rate 24
Melissa Michelle García (Apr '14) Apr 17 Cepillin 3
Healing tree (Feb '10) Apr 10 Hilda Alaniz 11
Couples theater at RGV video ? (Jan '16) Apr 6 James 7
the red door club (Mar '13) Mar 31 Troy 72

Mission Jobs

Personal Finance

Mission Mortgages