Shots fired into Mexico by U.S. border agents

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bottlecap

Largo, FL

#1 Sep 13, 2010
And why, pray tell, doesn't the US Government have US troops on the border????

The Chinese leadership seems to be much smarter that that of dummies like Bush and Obama.

When faced with a massive influx of ILLEGALS from North Korea the Chinese government knew what to do.

China sends troops to the North Korean border:

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/15/internation...

Now isn't it sad to have to watch dummies like Obama having to beg money from China to prop up our own government?

And I thought Bush was bad---and he was---BUT Obama is even worse.

Since: Sep 10

Clarksville, TN

#2 Sep 14, 2010
bottlecap wrote:
And why, pray tell, doesn't the US Government have US troops on the border????
The Chinese leadership seems to be much smarter that that of dummies like Bush and Obama.
When faced with a massive influx of ILLEGALS from North Korea the Chinese government knew what to do.
China sends troops to the North Korean border:
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/15/internation...
Now isn't it sad to have to watch dummies like Obama having to beg money from China to prop up our own government?
And I thought Bush was bad---and he was---BUT Obama is even worse.
because Obama doesn't think we need them there! I think the USA needs not borrow from another country! If the government (state,city, local, and federal)stops spending money like there is no tomorrow, and start making all government people pay for their own gas, vacations , and healthcare like us the people. Pay their share of taxes, cut the loop holes, one example, if a person owes back taxes, they should pay ALL of it not get off with paying a spit of it! You and I have to make that up! People on welfare, get off their lazy tail and find a job. Instead of giving these ppl money, help them train and get a job. Same thing with government housing, it should be a temporary help NOT permanent!
Chylloh

United States

#3 Sep 14, 2010
The theory is that our government during several presidential administrations has allowed the infiltration and invasion of illegal immigrants to syphon and damage the structure of America in order to bring American down to a dictatorship-two-class society.

The two classes would be the elitist including the corrupted politicians on both sides of the fence and the rich, the poor class would be everyone else.

While they leave the border unsecured, they have allowed the terrorist cells to build and monopolize all over America.

We are now dealing with terrorist within and around the world.

This is nothing more than a second-coming of Hitler.

The "edge of apocalypse" is near.

GOD is our only refuge and savior from this.
bottlecap

Cocoa, FL

#4 Sep 14, 2010
Chylloh wrote:
The theory is that our government during several presidential administrations has allowed the infiltration and invasion of illegal immigrants to syphon and damage the structure of America in order to bring American down to a dictatorship-two-class society.
The two classes would be the elitist including the corrupted politicians on both sides of the fence and the rich, the poor class would be everyone else.
While they leave the border unsecured, they have allowed the terrorist cells to build and monopolize all over America.
We are now dealing with terrorist within and around the world.
This is nothing more than a second-coming of Hitler.
The "edge of apocalypse" is near.
GOD is our only refuge and savior from this.
There is no question that OUTSIDE FORCES--GLOBALISTS if you will--
are trying to damage the United States thru illegal immigration and Islamic terrorism. They are doing the same thing in Europe!

The problem is that they have control of the main-stream media, so they put out "politically correct" propaganda to further their evil designs.
bottlecap

Cocoa, FL

#5 Sep 14, 2010
luciek wrote:
<quoted text>
because Obama doesn't think we need them there! I think the USA needs not borrow from another country! If the government (state,city, local, and federal)stops spending money like there is no tomorrow, and start making all government people pay for their own gas, vacations , and healthcare like us the people. Pay their share of taxes, cut the loop holes, one example, if a person owes back taxes, they should pay ALL of it not get off with paying a spit of it! You and I have to make that up! People on welfare, get off their lazy tail and find a job. Instead of giving these ppl money, help them train and get a job. Same thing with government housing, it should be a temporary help NOT permanent!
Sooo true. The so-called "great society" programs that the American people were misled by the Main-Stream Media into thinking they would work to the benefit of society, have turned our country into a begging debtor nation.

It was war against Nazi Germany that got the United States out of the depression so maybe a WAR with another rascist supremist country like Mexico would do the same.
my 2 cents

Virginia Beach, VA

#6 Sep 14, 2010
luciek wrote:
<quoted text>
because Obama doesn't think we need them there! I think the USA needs not borrow from another country! If the government (state,city, local, and federal)stops spending money like there is no tomorrow, and start making all government people pay for their own gas, vacations , and healthcare like us the people. Pay their share of taxes, cut the loop holes, one example, if a person owes back taxes, they should pay ALL of it not get off with paying a spit of it! You and I have to make that up! People on welfare, get off their lazy tail and find a job. Instead of giving these ppl money, help them train and get a job. Same thing with government housing, it should be a temporary help NOT permanent!
i agree fully with you..and if i have to take a urine test to get a great job ..wouldnt it make since to have to take a urine test to be on welfare??!! makes sense though!:)

Since: Sep 10

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#7 Sep 14, 2010
bal o takar joono
my 2 cents

Virginia Beach, VA

#8 Sep 14, 2010
what does bal o takar joono mean in english??!!
Chylloh

Louisville, KY

#9 Sep 15, 2010
bottlecap wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no question that OUTSIDE FORCES--GLOBALISTS if you will--
are trying to damage the United States thru illegal immigration and Islamic terrorism. They are doing the same thing in Europe!
The problem is that they have control of the main-stream media, so they put out "politically correct" propaganda to further their evil designs.
I am glad to see some of us have seen the reality of what is coming down and what is in the future for America if we do not take control and now.
Chylloh

Louisville, KY

#10 Sep 15, 2010
luciek wrote:
<quoted text>
because Obama doesn't think we need them there! I think the USA needs not borrow from another country! If the government (state,city, local, and federal)stops spending money like there is no tomorrow, and start making all government people pay for their own gas, vacations , and healthcare like us the people. Pay their share of taxes, cut the loop holes, one example, if a person owes back taxes, they should pay ALL of it not get off with paying a spit of it! You and I have to make that up! People on welfare, get off their lazy tail and find a job. Instead of giving these ppl money, help them train and get a job. Same thing with government housing, it should be a temporary help NOT permanent!
Welfare and extended unemployment benefits have become a career time job.......this is so sad that people have resulted in entitlements to support themselves instead of individual responsibility.
bottlecap

Clearwater, FL

#11 Sep 15, 2010
Chylloh wrote:
<quoted text>
I am glad to see some of us have seen the reality of what is coming down and what is in the future for America if we do not take control and now.
At the end of WWII, the GLOBALIST BANKERS who supported Hitler and Mussolinni got off scott free.

"The super-national sovereignty of an intellectual elite and WORLD BANKERS is surely preferable to the auto-determination practiced in past centuries."

David Rockefeller, Bilderburg Meeting 1991

"Some even believe we (the Rockefeller family) are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global, political and economic structure--one world if you will. If that is the charge, I stand guilty, and am proud of it."

Memoirs, p 405

Now what are the ODDS that the BAILOUT MONEY that were supported by neo-cons like Bush/McCain and liberal-elitists like Clinton/Obama, ended up in the GLOBALIST coffers???
Chylloh

Lawrenceburg, KY

#12 Sep 16, 2010
bottlecap wrote:
<quoted text>
At the end of WWII, the GLOBALIST BANKERS who supported Hitler and Mussolinni got off scott free.
"The super-national sovereignty of an intellectual elite and WORLD BANKERS is surely preferable to the auto-determination practiced in past centuries."
David Rockefeller, Bilderburg Meeting 1991
"Some even believe we (the Rockefeller family) are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global, political and economic structure--one world if you will. If that is the charge, I stand guilty, and am proud of it."
Memoirs, p 405
Now what are the ODDS that the BAILOUT MONEY that were supported by neo-cons like Bush/McCain and liberal-elitists like Clinton/Obama, ended up in the GLOBALIST coffers???
Look up some of the members who attended last year's Bilderburg conference, most you will find in the White House cabinets along with notable others, especially Oprah Winfrey.

We have been lied to, raped and deceived by both sides of the parties.

Nothing would be too good for these liars and thiefs, in the ways of the severest and harsh punishment there is.

“your life is great”

Since: Aug 09

you poop in clean water

#14 Sep 17, 2010
Why are US troops not defending our border?

here's why:
The Posse Comitatus Act
Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

-Title 18, U.S. Code, Section 1385

The Posse Comitatus Act..........

Applies only to the Army, and by extension the Air Force, which was formed out of the Army in 1947.

Does not apply to the Navy and Marine Corps. However, the Department of Defense has consistently held that the Navy and Marine Corps should behave as if the act applied to them.

Does not apply to the Coast Guard, which is part of the Department of Transportation and is both an armed force and a law enforcement agency with police powers.

Does not apply to the National Guard in its role as state troops on state active duty under the command of the respective governors.

May not apply to the National Guard (qua militia) even when it is called to federal active duty. The Posse Comitatus Act contains no restrictions on the use of the federalized militia as it did on the regular Army.[9] It is commonly believed, however, that National Guard units and personnel come under the Posse Comitatus Act when they are on federal active duty, and this interpretation is followed today.

Does not apply to state guards or State Defense Forces under the command of the respective governors.

Does not apply to military personnel assigned to military police, shore police, or security police duties. The military police have jurisdiction over military members subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice. They also exercise police powers over military dependents and others on military installations. The history of the law makes it clear that it was not intended to prevent federal police (for example, marshals) from enforcing the law.

Does not apply to civilian employees, including those who are sworn law enforcement officers. The origin and legislative history of the act make it clear that it applies only to military personnel. In those days, there were no civilian employees of the Army in the sense that there are today. In particular, no one envisioned that the Army would hire civilian police officers to enforce the laws at its facilities.

Does not prevent the President from using federal troops in riots or civil disorders. Federal troops were used for domestic operations more than 200 times in the two centuries from 1795 to 1995. Most of these operations were to enforce the law, and many of them were to enforce state law rather than federal law.[10] Nor does it prevent the military services from supporting local or federal law enforcement officials as long as the troops are not used to arrest citizens or investigate crimes.
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that's why
bottlecap

Clearwater, FL

#15 Sep 17, 2010
anneutral wrote:
Why are US troops not defending our border?
here's why:
The Posse Comitatus Act
Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.
-Title 18, U.S. Code, Section 1385
The Posse Comitatus Act..........
Applies only to the Army, and by extension the Air Force, which was formed out of the Army in 1947.
Does not apply to the Navy and Marine Corps. However, the Department of Defense has consistently held that the Navy and Marine Corps should behave as if the act applied to them.
Does not apply to the Coast Guard, which is part of the Department of Transportation and is both an armed force and a law enforcement agency with police powers.
Does not apply to the National Guard in its role as state troops on state active duty under the command of the respective governors.
May not apply to the National Guard (qua militia) even when it is called to federal active duty. The Posse Comitatus Act contains no restrictions on the use of the federalized militia as it did on the regular Army.[9] It is commonly believed, however, that National Guard units and personnel come under the Posse Comitatus Act when they are on federal active duty, and this interpretation is followed today.
Does not apply to state guards or State Defense Forces under the command of the respective governors.
Does not apply to military personnel assigned to military police, shore police, or security police duties. The military police have jurisdiction over military members subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice. They also exercise police powers over military dependents and others on military installations. The history of the law makes it clear that it was not intended to prevent federal police (for example, marshals) from enforcing the law.
Does not apply to civilian employees, including those who are sworn law enforcement officers. The origin and legislative history of the act make it clear that it applies only to military personnel. In those days, there were no civilian employees of the Army in the sense that there are today. In particular, no one envisioned that the Army would hire civilian police officers to enforce the laws at its facilities.
Does not prevent the President from using federal troops in riots or civil disorders. Federal troops were used for domestic operations more than 200 times in the two centuries from 1795 to 1995. Most of these operations were to enforce the law, and many of them were to enforce state law rather than federal law.[10] Nor does it prevent the military services from supporting local or federal law enforcement officials as long as the troops are not used to arrest citizens or investigate crimes.
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that's why
Very excellent information:

Since the past four GLOBALIST Presidents(Bush Sr., Clinton, Bush and Obama) IGNORED BORDER LAWS in the first place, and created the downward spiral of the US by their FAILURE to do so, it would follow that the laws you mentioned should carry no weight with that crowd anyway.

“your life is great”

Since: Aug 09

you poop in clean water

#16 Sep 18, 2010
bottlecap wrote:
<quoted text>
Very excellent information:
Since the past four GLOBALIST Presidents(Bush Sr., Clinton, Bush and Obama) IGNORED BORDER LAWS in the first place, and created the downward spiral of the US by their FAILURE to do so, it would follow that the laws you mentioned should carry no weight with that crowd anyway.
just like everything else, people obey the law when it favors their agenda.

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#17 Sep 19, 2010
I hope the agents were hitting their targets.
Little Mexican

Robstown, TX

#18 Nov 17, 2010
Illegal Kenyan wrote:
I hope the agents were hitting their targets.
its more easy to hit a KKK clan member with a cone hat than a Mexican!LOL
Chylloh

United States

#19 Nov 18, 2010
Little Mexican wrote:
<quoted text>its more easy to hit a KKK clan member with a cone hat than a Mexican!LOL
Especially when the mexican target is hiding under 17 other mexicans.

Since: Jun 10

Knoxville, TN

#20 Nov 19, 2010
It would be ok with me to fire 155mm cannons into the northern part of Mexico. That along with mining the Rio Grande and shooting everyone that attempts to cross illegally might stop the ILLEGALS from breaking our laws and sovereignty. WE NEED TO STOP CATERING TO MEXICO AND LET THEM KNOW WE ARE TIRED OF TAKING THEIR POOR, UNEDUCATED, MASS BREEDERS INTO OUR GREAT COUNTY. OUR COUNTRY IS BEING DEGRADED BY THE MASS IMMIGRATION. IF IT WAS CONTROLLED, THEN MAYBE WE COULD ACCEPT SOME, BUT NOT ALL AS THEY WANT. GET A LIFE CALDRON, MOST AMERICANS HATE YOU
Storm Warning

United States

#21 Nov 23, 2010
Chinese Leader Long Dong say Obama Not Chinese so they call him short dong

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