Kansas Voting Disqualification Amendment - Mental Illness

[Chris]

You can't take away the right to vote on the grounds of mental illness. That would exclude all religious people, and the crazy right wingnuts would dissappear from government.

[Chris]

......^Oh...Wait.....maybe not such a bad idea after all.

[Brownback rules]

The state is broke, needs money, same as the other 49. So let`s cut taxes and create a mega-billion dollar shortfall. But we`ll have more pocket money and grow 500, 000 more jobs. And this guy has Presidential aspirations for 2016. What a joke.

[et one]

Don-N-Kansas wrote:

I might be a little off base here, but isn't it a guaranteed right of all American citizens to be able to cast a ballot, of course states may impose individual disqualifiers in some instances, like some states removing the right to vote from felons because of past criminal acts but it isn’t like persons who have been determined to be “mentally ill", made the decision to be that way on their own volition, or by any act on their part.
Now I might agree to those not being “mentally competent” as a disqualifier, but not “mentally ill”.
To me it is just much too broad of a term.
And just who gets to determine if someone is "mentally ill"?
I know several people, many of the type right here on Topix, that figure - anyone that doesn't agree with them or their opinion, must be 'mentally ill'.
The next thing you know, voters will have to pass an “IQ” test to be able to vote.
Of course now that I think about it…
Naaa, just kidding ~

I have to commend you on the comment. My understanding from my discussion with Senator King is that the purpose of this legislation is to REMOVE the mental health disqualifer language from the Kansas Constitution...not add it.

As your the comments about the average voter being brainwashed, I have to agree. Just look at some of the replies to those who are willing to stand up for a position. If it goes against the way the ruling party wishes them to think; they move to destroy that person.

[Don-N-Kansas]

et one wrote:

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I have to commend you on the comment. My understanding from my discussion with Senator King is that the purpose of this legislation is to REMOVE the mental health disqualifer language from the Kansas Constitution...not add it.
As your the comments about the average voter being brainwashed, I have to agree. Just look at some of the replies to those who are willing to stand up for a position. If it goes against the way the ruling party wishes them to think; they move to destroy that person.

I was aware of that, my comment on states being able to impose their own disqualifiers was just a statement of fact, not prediction for KS.

One of the first things I did before replying in this thread was go to the Kansas Constitution website and view Article 5 sec. 2:

http://www.kslib.info/government-information/...

But what I can't under stand is: Is this measure BACK on the 2012 ballot?

QUOTE: "The Kansas Voting Disqualification Amendment, also known as Constitutional Amendment Question 2, was on the November 2, 2010 ballot as a legislatively-referred constitutional amendment in the state of Kansas, where it was approved. The measure would eliminate mental illness as a voting disqualification. According to supporters of the amendment, a "mental illness" category was too general and affected as much as 25 percent of Kansas residents." :END QUOTE

http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Kansas_... (2010)

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Don-N-Kansas wrote:

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I was aware of that, my comment on states being able to impose their own disqualifiers was just a statement of fact, not prediction for KS.
One of the first things I did before replying in this thread was go to the Kansas Constitution website and view Article 5 sec. 2:
http://www.kslib.info/government-information/...
But what I can't under stand is: Is this measure BACK on the 2012 ballot?
QUOTE: "The Kansas Voting Disqualification Amendment, also known as Constitutional Amendment Question 2, was on the November 2, 2010 ballot as a legislatively-referred constitutional amendment in the state of Kansas, where it was approved. The measure would eliminate mental illness as a voting disqualification. According to supporters of the amendment, a "mental illness" category was too general and affected as much as 25 percent of Kansas residents." :END QUOTE
http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Kansas_... (2010)

Damned if I know Don. My sense from what I was told in the same meeting is that some dumbass brought it back to the table to keep it and the Senate got it put out to ammend the Kansas Constitution.

Reading between the lines, I sense that someone in the power structure wants to control the voter pool to the max. Can't prove it at the moment...but this is how it seems. Perhaps we need to change out a bunch of the old time leadership and the corrupt govenor with all his superduper christian leadership as soon as we can.

[Steve Seefeld]

I tried to reply to you Don, but it didn't post. Anyway, I agree on the issue of mental illness being a disqualifier as being too broad a definition.

One persons mental illness is sometimes just anothers normal way of life.

[Don-N-Kansas]

At any rate if it does appear on the 2012 ballot I will vote as I did on the 2010 ballot. And then I will contact our state legislators and ask them what is going on...

[Super Jeezus]

I HAVE RISEN!!!....but I am going back to bed

[et one]

Super Jeezus wrote:

I HAVE RISEN!!!....but I am going back to bed

How about you check in at 4 County Mental Health and get a vacation at Larned State Hospital for some sorely needed treatment.

[Super Jeezus]

et one wrote:

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How about you check in at 4 County Mental Health and get a vacation at Larned State Hospital for some sorely needed treatment.

Pray to me for a sense of humor and you may receive it. Bless thee brotha

[righton]

vote

[What]

Super Jeezus wrote:

<quoted text>Pray to me for a sense of humor and you may receive it. Bless thee brotha

Really?????

[Super Jeezus]

What wrote:

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Really?????

No not really.... twas a joke silly.

[Citizen Sane]

Sanity has never been a qualifier for Kansas elections. The majority of Kansans turn off Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity just long enough to vote for the next slate of brain dead right wing freaks of nature to ensure another 4 years of suffering under these idiots. The average Kansas voter would vote for a right wing nut job if he was a convicted child molester with collection of stolen bicycle seats. When the history of Kansas is written, the story will read, "these folks actually voted for those who guaranteed misery." Self-imolation is a curious mental ailment.

[What]

oh, ok lol

[Billy]

Just vote.

[MACK KANSAS]

Beaner wrote:

I do not believe it will be in the best interests of the people of the state of Kansas to strip the legislature of the authority to pass any laws of any kind. They are our lawmaking body and supposed to have Kansas citizens best interests at heart. I also realize that from the legislature's voting record of recent years, most people here in Kansas think most of the the legislature has mental illness also. I will go no on this one.

its the trashy second rate bumpkin hicks illegal attempts to conceal its illegal USA crimes against its public by its second rate bumpkin hick state employee frauds, good to see more snuffs on the state bumpkins --

[MACK KANSAS]

et one wrote:

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How about you check in at 4 County Mental Health and get a vacation at Larned State Hospital for some sorely needed treatment.

linker, note this thread, anyone with with any evidence on anything of any kind on this states employee frauds will be illegally threatened with attempted illegal set ups through Larned, its simply the way this state , these areas attempt to illegally hide and conceal direct USA legal evidence of illegal crimes being made on public by this bumpkin hick trash states employees, jump over to more direct pops and dongs on this states KBI fraud sections all the time.

[MACK KANSAS]

Steve Seefeld wrote:

I tried to reply to you Don, but it didn't post. Anyway, I agree on the issue of mental illness being a disqualifier as being too broad a definition.
One persons mental illness is sometimes just anothers normal way of life.

more like illegal attempts to conceal states evidence on state employee frauds by illegal set ups and attempted frames on direct witts to illegal state crimes being made on public and small children by this states employees with intent to conceal, showing the true mental illness of this states reps and various officals all the time.