Kansas Right to Bear Arms Question, Constitutional Amendment Question 1

Created by CitizenTopix on Oct 7, 2010

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Leavenworth, KS

#4533 Dec 28, 2012
Door King wrote:
If your neighbor is a crazy vicious mfer, he can keep gun ownership secret. The names of concealed carry permit holders are kept secret by most states, making it impossible for people who live next to CC holding drug addicts and drunks to protect themselves. And rest assured; most of you are drunks.
Sure must be a lot of addicts and drunks in the US.
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No Need

Girard, KS

#4534 Dec 28, 2012
Renunciation
“… the righteous man has nothing to fear, neither In life, nor
in death,
and the gods will not forsake him.”
Socrates
(For those who died heroically at Newtown, Connecticut,
And William Dane Dodge, un rédacteur sans égal)
I
The gods came to this place once known as Quanneapague
before the town bells could ring out their joy to the world.
It was a cold December morning.
In the forest surrounding the Sandy Hook Elementary,
the hoarfrost hung like Christmas icicles.
Homes along the quiet streets of Newtown
were brimming with pine cones and poinsettias,
with Christmas wreaths and Himalayan green roses.
The gods saw the longing for immortality
in these rolling hills with their winter apple orchards.
This was the same place where the French General Rochambeau
encamped on the way to the siege of Yorktown with his troops.
It was not a massacre then, but a revolutionary war.
These ancient gods who dimmed the hopes
of every schoolchild in Connecticut,
were the same gods who sealed the pact
between a great democracy and an even greater anarchy,
proclaiming its right to bear arms.
II
Here we are again, moved to an insidious silence
as we witness men and women of high rank,
along with the somber faces of journalists and TV anchors,
lowering the flag to mourn another mass killing.
The people have gathered outside the Newtown meeting house
not far from Ram’s Pasture
as they have since the Revolution, standing
beneath the Rooster weathervane, his proud tail
spinning at the center of this unending vigil.
Everybody knows what this country is about.
The cathedrals and churches are lit with candles
while gun shops across America are jammed with new customers.
As members of the ‘Commission on Morality and Massacres’
we go on talking about safety
while gawking at children’s coffins on TV.
The chatter on the internet is all about mental illness
and the impossibility of gun control,
as if death was the perpetual star of our nativity.
III
They fell at Sandy Hook: twelve schoolgirls, eight boys, six adults,
warriors as great as those at Lexington and Gettysburg
but they were no match for two automatic pistols
and the smooth steel of a Bushmaster assault rifle.
Thinking of America’s firing ranges and the carnage
unleashed by one gunman,
the gods came to me this morning.
Before the rooster crowed,
I took my AK-47 and smashed its wood stock,
gutting the firing chamber and breaking its trigger
with a sledge hammer.
I marveled at the precision of this weapon,
at all the beauty and craftsmanship
now lying in ruins.
The gods did not promise me any safe passage.
need parts

Leavenworth, KS

#4535 Dec 28, 2012
No Need wrote:
I took my AK-47 and smashed its wood stock,
gutting the firing chamber and breaking its trigger
with a sledge hammer.
Please post contact info,I'd gladly buy the remains for spare parts.
The Pope

Leavenworth, KS

#4536 Dec 28, 2012
No Need wrote:
Renunciation
“… the righteous man has nothing to fear, neither In life, nor
in death,
and the gods will not forsake him.”
Socrates
(For those who died heroically at Newtown, Connecticut,
And William Dane Dodge, un rédacteur sans égal)
I
The gods came to this place once known as Quanneapague
before the town bells could ring out their joy to the world.
It was a cold December morning.
In the forest surrounding the Sandy Hook Elementary,
the hoarfrost hung like Christmas icicles.
Homes along the quiet streets of Newtown
were brimming with pine cones and poinsettias,
with Christmas wreaths and Himalayan green roses.
The gods saw the longing for immortality
in these rolling hills with their winter apple orchards.
This was the same place where the French General Rochambeau
encamped on the way to the siege of Yorktown with his troops.
It was not a massacre then, but a revolutionary war.
These ancient gods who dimmed the hopes
of every schoolchild in Connecticut,
were the same gods who sealed the pact
between a great democracy and an even greater anarchy,
proclaiming its right to bear arms.
II
Here we are again, moved to an insidious silence
as we witness men and women of high rank,
along with the somber faces of journalists and TV anchors,
lowering the flag to mourn another mass killing.
The people have gathered outside the Newtown meeting house
not far from Ram’s Pasture
as they have since the Revolution, standing
beneath the Rooster weathervane, his proud tail
spinning at the center of this unending vigil.
Everybody knows what this country is about.
The cathedrals and churches are lit with candles
while gun shops across America are jammed with new customers.
As members of the ‘Commission on Morality and Massacres’
we go on talking about safety
while gawking at children’s coffins on TV.
The chatter on the internet is all about mental illness
and the impossibility of gun control,
as if death was the perpetual star of our nativity.
III
They fell at Sandy Hook: twelve schoolgirls, eight boys, six adults,
warriors as great as those at Lexington and Gettysburg
but they were no match for two automatic pistols
and the smooth steel of a Bushmaster assault rifle.
Thinking of America’s firing ranges and the carnage
unleashed by one gunman,
the gods came to me this morning.
Before the rooster crowed,
I took my AK-47 and smashed its wood stock,
gutting the firing chamber and breaking its trigger
with a sledge hammer.
I marveled at the precision of this weapon,
at all the beauty and craftsmanship
now lying in ruins.
The gods did not promise me any safe passage.
Next you're going to state the Pope can keep kids safe from priest!

“Dump Brownback ”

Since: Oct 10

Junction City KS

#4537 Dec 28, 2012
Nicnac wrote:
<quoted text>
What does this mean? I'm not from Kansas so I don't know much about the surrounding areas.
I believe "question" is asking about the other poster's location. Gardner is a suburb of Kansas City and Colby is in western Kansas. For the unregisted who do not post their locations the Topix program estimates it for you, different ways at different times, often spectacularly wrongly.

Are you a new resident or just visiting? Either way, poor you. Welcome to Brownbackistan, which is to the American Taliban what Khandahar is to the Afghan one.
really

Waverly, KS

#4538 Dec 28, 2012
The Kangaroo wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe "question" is asking about the other poster's location. Gardner is a suburb of Kansas City and Colby is in western Kansas. For the unregisted who do not post their locations the Topix program estimates it for you, different ways at different times, often spectacularly wrongly.
Are you a new resident or just visiting? Either way, poor you. Welcome to Brownbackistan, which is to the American Taliban what Khandahar is to the Afghan one.
So why do you live here?

“Dump Brownback ”

Since: Oct 10

Junction City KS

#4539 Dec 28, 2012
really wrote:
<quoted text>So why do you live here?
Work.
really

Waverly, KS

#4540 Dec 29, 2012
The Kangaroo wrote:
<quoted text>
Work.
I hear that man.
FTS

Junction City, KS

#4541 Dec 30, 2012
FTS cars are very powerful weapons and have been used to commit numerous homicides example Oklahoma City Bombing. Time Square multiple people were round down. A Texas mother straps her kids in and drowns them. Kids left in the car and suffocate. Use your head to think. Start with 1+1. The lethal mind behind the wheel, or trigger, or bat, or knife, or poison, or bomb is the dominating factor. There is a failure in our mental health system. We need to fix the system or cuff everyone’s hands together. You are flying a flag of ignorance if you believe cars are not weapons. BTW try comparing Multisystem Trauma to a single gunshot wound. Try bring on the trauma team when the killer behind the wheel drove onto the playground.

So. shall we bann cars too? One using your reasoning, we would have too. BTW I have lost family and freinds to weaponized cars. I have also been on that trauma team.

Please do not procreate.

Sincerely FTS
Sammi wrote:
<quoted text>
Really????? You have the mentality of a fifth grader. In case You hadn't noticed, cars are NOT weapons, Moron...guns ARE
Just because people are opposed to guns, doesn't mean they're affraid of them. Personally, I hate the damned things. I lost my family to guns, and would never own one. Some people just have to show their lack of self esteem by appearing tough I guess...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#4542 Dec 30, 2012
The Kangaroo wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe "question" is asking about the other poster's location. Gardner is a suburb of Kansas City and Colby is in western Kansas. For the unregisted who do not post their locations the Topix program estimates it for you, different ways at different times, often spectacularly wrongly.
Are you a new resident or just visiting? Either way, poor you. Welcome to Brownbackistan, which is to the American Taliban what Khandahar is to the Afghan one.
Yeah it was way better when the pal of child butcher was in the governor's mansion.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#4543 Dec 30, 2012
The Kangaroo wrote:
<quoted text>
Work.
For what?More unemployment?
Britguy

Saint-germain-d'ectot, France

#4544 Dec 30, 2012
The disturbing part in all this is that more people are killed in the U.S by guns than in Afghanistan!!!
FTS

Junction City, KS

#4545 Dec 31, 2012
Show the proof. Little do you know of the mass graves created by the Taliban. Whole villages killed, many with their heads cut off. Women and children mutilated by the oppressors, and Opium Drug Lords. There are no documents to support your statement. They destroyed a US built school, parked a vehicle loaded with explosives in front of it and detonated it when it was full of children.

Britguy, do not speak of things you know nothing about. Classified records specific to Afghanistan existed long before 2002. Those records contain massive accounts of killings. Not all by guns but all by violence.

The Taliban kill without remorse, treat the people like expendable insects.
Britguy wrote:
The disturbing part in all this is that more people are killed in the U.S by guns than in Afghanistan!!!
true enough

Junction City, KS

#4546 Dec 31, 2012
FTS wrote:
Show the proof. Little do you know of the mass graves created by the Taliban. Whole villages killed, many with their heads cut off. Women and children mutilated by the oppressors, and Opium Drug Lords. There are no documents to support your statement. They destroyed a US built school, parked a vehicle loaded with explosives in front of it and detonated it when it was full of children.
Britguy, do not speak of things you know nothing about. Classified records specific to Afghanistan existed long before 2002. Those records contain massive accounts of killings. Not all by guns but all by violence.
The Taliban kill without remorse, treat the people like expendable insects.
<quoted text>
The real tragedy is that more servicemembers died from suicide in 2012 than in combat operations. Most of these suicides can be linked to PTSD meds. It won`t happen, but if medicinal marijuana was prescribed instead of anti-depressants, suicides would drop dramatically. But that would make too much sense.
Redmen

Tulsa, OK

#4547 Dec 31, 2012
? is it necessary to hunt with an assault rifle or have gun with fast clips that hold over 10 rounds-NO! The Founding Fathers could have never envisioned the type weapons we have today or I'd bet they would have written the 2nd amendment differently that only military and police forces should possess such weapons,all other OK..tell if Lanza in Conn had only been able to get his hands on a rock,knife,bow and arrows,hatchet etc could he have killed so many innocent children etc? No!...here's an idea lets put a teacher in every gun shop. We're the most violent country in the world when it comes to gun deaths, what a honor.
Second to One

Junction City, KS

#4548 Dec 31, 2012
Redmen wrote:
We're the most violent country in the world when it comes to gun deaths, what a honor.
Actually, I believe we`re in second place behind Afghanistan. Guns and Bibles go together like guns and Korans and love and marriage.
really

Waverly, KS

#4549 Dec 31, 2012
Also don't stand close the train tracks in New York. We have crazy people who will find ways to kill.
Britguy

Saint-romphaire, France

#4550 Jan 1, 2013
FTS..... I qualified my statement by the use of the word "guns"when did a car bomb or IED become a gun, I actually quoted from a recent news report..... And did the guy that shot two fire service guys show remorse or the guy walking into a school show remorse? The only remorse ever shown by a murderer is when they are caught and dragged into court with the threat of a life sentence.
Britguy

Saint-romphaire, France

#4551 Jan 1, 2013
I have no argument with " the right" but this doesn't mean you should be walking the streets like Wyatt Earp! I have worked in the Middle East many times and they also have the "right to bear arms" but we all think they are lawless societies or terrorists ! I guess it all depends what version of the good book you are quoting from when you pull the trigger!
Regulation and education would be a good start to getting some kind of control, I actually started work as a game keeper on an English farm, I was taught how to handle a gun and ways to avoid shooting accidents, gun security in the UK is a big issue and regular visits by the police Are part and parcel of owning a gun.
Door King

Corpus Christi, TX

#4552 Jan 1, 2013
When someone shoves 22 children in front of a train, get back to me really.

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