Mint Hill mall will have huge impact on traffic

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In response to 'Retail mega-center getting under way' :Construction has begun on the Bridges at Mint Hill. Full Story
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Jeff Fischer

Charlotte, NC

#1 May 1, 2008
I'm really concerned about the right hand turn only out of Thompson Road. This is going to be a major trouble spot. Why do they think a roundabout at Bain School Rd and Lawyers is a good solution? Do they also not realize the draw from Charlotte south on Lawyers? yet they aren't widening the road past Thompson Road.
Carol

Mount Holly, NC

#2 May 1, 2008
Continued stupidy abounds. Soon we will be stuck and can't move from point A to B. That will about sew it up I think.
They will get all East Charlotte going there. All roads leading to Pineville will be blocked. You can include Idlewild and Pineville Matthews Rds from AlbermarleRd That about sews it up don't you think. Then you will have traffic coming from the east to the west and they are two lane back roads from Hemby Bridge and those little towns. What a joke. Speaking of those little town out there..they have all kind of housing developments and apartments going up and a one lane road each way. lol
The pollution from cars sitting in traffic will be sickening literally cause they fail to get in their stupid heads to build roads before you build homes and malls.
Carol

Mount Holly, NC

#3 May 1, 2008
By the way..I never mentioned 485 and 74 because they are allready overcrowded. I have seen traffic backed up for miles on Pineville Matthews Rd going to Pineville now with people sitting in traffic that came off 485 and 74. The congestion out there is terrible now. I am glad I heard of this cause I was out past there house hunting last month.

This is almost laughable. I am not against a mall or growth but I am against not having roads to get around on.
Cantwait forBridges

Indian Trail, NC

#4 May 7, 2008
I live in Shannamara, on Stevens Mill Rd between Idlewild and Lawyers, about 2 miles from where the mall will be built. I have seen the construction and personally cannot wait until the mall is completed.

My house has appreciated from $336,000 in 2004 to over $450,000 in 2008, and I believe that a "Southpoint-like" mall within 2 miles of the house will cause our property value to skyrocket another $100,000 upon completion due to the proximity to that kind of upscale retail.

My family was actually considering moving to the beach and changed our minds just to wait and see 1) how much our house appreciates from the mall, and 2) how much we actually love having such a nice mall so conveniently close to the house. Southpoint mall in Durham is one of my favorite malls, and I have been wishing that Charlotte could get an outdoor shopping center like it since the day it opened.

Yes, there will be an increase in traffic, but traffic has already increased significantly in the 4 years since we moved in as the entire area continues to prosper. Charlotte has enjoyed sustained real estate growth and above average appreciation while most of the nation continues to sink into the subprime mortgage fallout - and that comes with the price of progress people!!!

Just offering a positive outlook here to level out some of the negativity.
Yahoo for Progress

Albemarle, NC

#5 May 18, 2008
I'm with you "Can't Wait for Bridges"! If I am gonna have to travel and be stuck in traffic....Id rather do it close to home rather than add another 40 minutes commute from my home in Stallings to Southpark mall....and home value appreciation....I am selling my house fsbo...but only to get my price....cuz next year...it'll be a lot more....the Mall is a win win for all of us!
Jim

Mount Holly, NC

#6 May 19, 2008
Malls are hotbeds for crime and gang activity--what happened up the road at Eastland will happen there. Put up a few apartment buildings and low income housing and away we go.

I love malls but unfortunately till this country gets a handle on crime...forget it.
Mac

Mount Holly, NC

#7 May 23, 2008
2 years ago I was house hunting and felt Charlotte housing was overpriced for the size and quality.

Either way the gas prices are going to knock out this housing boom and the housing prices will have to come down. People will need to live closer to where they work and inner city will be the place to be. Old neighborhoods are being revitalized and the buses are filled and more routes and buses are needed now. Times they are achanging!
Tina - Charlotte

Charlotte, NC

#8 Jun 26, 2008
This mall has been needed for several years. We have many residents surrounding Mint Hill and tired of traveling 15 miles to a mall. The traffic will be no more than all malls are conjested in Mecklenburg county. Our roads are under designed and our red light system sucks anyway. This whole city is hurry up and wait to get anywhere..
Lorie - Matthews

Charlotte, NC

#9 Jun 26, 2008
I agree 100%. This mall we are waiting to visit asap. This area is in desperate need of a nice place to shop.
NOT STUPID

Indian Trail, NC

#10 Jun 28, 2008
Carol wrote:
By the way..I never mentioned 485 and 74 because they are allready overcrowded. I have seen traffic backed up for miles on Pineville Matthews Rd going to Pineville now with people sitting in traffic that came off 485 and 74. The congestion out there is terrible now. I am glad I heard of this cause I was out past there house hunting last month.
This is almost laughable. I am not against a mall or growth but I am against not having roads to get around on.
PLEASE,PLEASE,PLEASE stay in Charlotte!With your attitude,we dont need people like you.BRING ON THE MALL.
Mint Hillian

Charlotte, NC

#11 Oct 4, 2008
What has happened with the mall, is it still a go? B/C I don't see any construction.
Will

Mount Holly, NC

#12 Oct 6, 2008
Mint Hillian wrote:
What has happened with the mall, is it still a go? B/C I don't see any construction.
I read or heard on the news some months back that its being delayed. Why I don't know--the same as a Super Wallmart that was to be built off East Independence is being delayed and wants money from the city for cleanup from a dry cleaners there.
Carol

Mount Holly, NC

#13 Oct 6, 2008
Mint Hillian wrote:
What has happened with the mall, is it still a go? B/C I don't see any construction.
The mall has come to a halt due to the economy. Retailers are filing bankruptcy and no timeline for the project to begin is stated from either companies--Chicago based General Growth Properties or local Childress Klein Properties.
Tom

Brevard, NC

#14 Oct 8, 2008
Where can I find more info on this?
Carol

Mount Holly, NC

#15 Oct 10, 2008
Tom wrote:
Where can I find more info on this?
I saw an article in the Minthill newspaper about a week ago--maybe if you google Minthill newspaper you can find an article about it.
Spagett

Gastonia, NC

#16 Oct 10, 2008
who gives a $h i t
Mint hill resident

Maiden, NC

#17 Oct 28, 2008
Will wrote:
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I read or heard on the news some months back that its being delayed. Why I don't know--the same as a Super Wallmart that was to be built off East Independence is being delayed and wants money from the city for cleanup from a dry cleaners there.
Saw on the news that the mall is being delayed until the economy crisis lifts.
Bridgewatcher

Holland, MI

#18 Nov 12, 2008
Four Seasons Town Centre's owner warns of bankruptcyTuesday, November 11 (updated Wednesday, November 12, 6:19 am)
By Lanita Withers
Staff Writer
Four Seasons Town Centre
General Growth Properties, the owner of Greensboro's Four Seasons Town Centre and the nation's second largest mall owner, warned in a federal filing that bankruptcy is a possibility if it isn't able to extend or refinance hundreds of millions in debt.
The Chicago-based company has $958 million in debt scheduled to mature on Dec. 1. The real estate investment trust is also examining all the possible avenues to raise more money, including the possible sale of core assets.
"Given the continued weakness of the retail and credit markets, there can be no assurance that we can obtain such extensions or refinance our existing debt or obtain the additional capital necessary to satisfy our short term cash needs on satisfactory terms," according to Monday's Securities and Exchange Commission filing.
"Even if we are successful in addressing these 2008 maturities, an additional $3.07 billion of property and corporate debt is scheduled to mature in 2009. In the event that we are unable to extend or refinance our debt or obtain additional capital on a timely basis and on acceptable terms, we will be required to take further steps to acquire the funds necessary to satisfy our short term cash needs, including seeking legal protection from our creditors."
General Growth, beset by falling funds from operations and plagued by a tightening global credit market that's making it difficult for companies to obtain financing, is trying to sell off properties and cut costs to weather the rocky economic climate. It's also suspended its dividend and ousted a cadre of top executives. But that hasn't calmed investors, who've sent the company's shares into a virtual free-fall since September.
Shares of General Growth stock dropped about 70 percent Tuesday in afternoon trading.
In addition to Four Seasons, General Growth owns The Streets at Southpoint in Durham, The Bridges at Mint Hill near Charlotte, Carolina Place in Pineville and Valley Hills Mall in Hickory.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
Russ - Mint Hill

Rock Hill, SC

#19 Jan 9, 2009
To the people that complain that 15 miles is too far to go to a mall. I have an answer for that...MOVE, MOVE to CHARLOTTE! People moved to Mint Hill, like myself, to get away from malls, traffic, crime, etc. The thinking of this mall is pure stupidity. They will have a 4 lane road, two lanes each way for only a short distance at first. Go to Carolina Place mall and you will see more lanes and still alot of traffic. Does anyone remember what it was like before 485 where Carolina Place Mall is. The traffice was terrible. Once the Mall hits everything else moves in. I guess alot of you haven't lived here long enough, like back when Eastland Mall was the place to go and look at it now.

We are right in the middle of Carolina Place and Concord Mills. But most people still go to Southpark, and they still will because of the stores in it but it will take them twice as long to get there due to the increased traffic with the new mall.

Okay, so your house will increas in value. However so will your taxes and then they will increase the tax rate to pay for an increased police force, a gang unit, and then they will tell you they need more roads because the mall has increased traffice congestion more then what they thought it would. Then some idiot will say let's connect to the 6 mile, 1 billion dollar Charlotte light rail line that was suppose to be 1/2 billion. Oh yeah, we have to subsidize it too -- more taxes.

You want a mall, YOU MOVE to Charlotte!
domcid

Charlotte, NC

#20 Jan 12, 2010
Amen

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