Light rail vision takes shape in Twin Cities suburbs

Nov 21, 2011 Full story: Finance and Commerce 39

The rails and trails around Beltline Drive in St. Louis Park will undergo major changes as the Southwest LRT line is built through the area on its way to Eden Prairie.

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Mom called-behave child

Seattle, WA

#24 Nov 23, 2011
IrishMN wrote:
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Not just Section 8. Drive through any of the first and 2nd tier suburbs. You will see the results of the push to remove problems from the inner city. Thank you to Myron Orfield and all of those DFL legislators that drank the Kool-Aid.
Would you like it better, if they locked poor folks up and threw away the key ?? Gee, what a classy crew. I'm VERY glad we don't have your type here....

IrishMN wrote:
It doesn't work with door to door people, but phone solicitors are always welcome to call me. When I answer the phone and they ask for IrishMN, I respond with:
"Oh, I am sorry. He just died. I am here clearing out the last of his belongings."
The silence is deafening.
And yes, I am that warped.
John

Park Forest, IL

#25 Nov 23, 2011
Everybody knows that buses are a superior method of mass transportation in every single way.

When the train went down, they used buses to transport the riders.
Mom called-behave child

Seattle, WA

#26 Nov 23, 2011
John wrote:
Everybody knows that buses are a superior method of mass transportation in every single way.
When the train went down, they used buses to transport the riders.
Your first and second sentence are premise and conclusion, were you going to include ANY proof ? I get it, EVERYBODY know, just like everybody knew the earth was flat ???

As a general rule, trains are considerably more energy efficient than buses. They release less damaging compounds into the atmosphere. This does not mean that traveling by bus is not a green mode of transit. In cities, for example, where trains may not be an option, they are considerably greener than cars. For long trips, however, trains are almost always the greenest option.
Measuring in Passenger MPG

Most of us are used to looking at travel in terms of miles per gallon (MPG). When looking at the actual carbon use of a mode of travel, however, it's important to look at per passenger MPG. For example, traveling in a bus that gets 10 MPG may seem to be more energy efficient than traveling in a train that gets the equivalent of 3 MPG. Yet, if the train contains 50 people on average--while the bus holds 10 on average--the train will have a higher passenger MPG; it will have 150 passenger MPG as opposed to 100 passenger MPG.
John

Park Forest, IL

#27 Nov 23, 2011
Everybody knows that buses are a superior method of mass transportation in every single way.

When the train went down, they used buses to transport the riders.
Becky Stan

Minneapolis, MN

#28 Nov 23, 2011
Not that bad wrote:
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Actually when the section 8 hits many 'burbs, they are a minority and are quickly isolated and booted out, one way or the other.
Actually, when section 8 hits the burbs they get a landlord of a large apartment building to accept a government check every month in exchange for dealing with criminals, single mothers their kids and the boyfriend of the week. These people mostly don't work, don't respect the property, bring up the # of police calls and bring down the values of property near by.
It has nothing to do with being minority, and, where have they been isolated and kicked out?

Since: Jul 08

Saint Paul, MN

#30 Nov 23, 2011
Mom called-behave child wrote:
<quoted text>Your first and second sentence are premise and conclusion, were you going to include ANY proof ? I get it, EVERYBODY know, just like everybody knew the earth was flat ???
As a general rule, trains are considerably more energy efficient than buses. They release less damaging compounds into the atmosphere. This does not mean that traveling by bus is not a green mode of transit. In cities, for example, where trains may not be an option, they are considerably greener than cars. For long trips, however, trains are almost always the greenest option.
Measuring in Passenger MPG
Most of us are used to looking at travel in terms of miles per gallon (MPG). When looking at the actual carbon use of a mode of travel, however, it's important to look at per passenger MPG. For example, traveling in a bus that gets 10 MPG may seem to be more energy efficient than traveling in a train that gets the equivalent of 3 MPG. Yet, if the train contains 50 people on average--while the bus holds 10 on average--the train will have a higher passenger MPG; it will have 150 passenger MPG as opposed to 100 passenger MPG.
wow what a deal, it only cost a billion or so to get good mpg. the taxpayers are so lucky
Mom called-behave child

Seattle, WA

#31 Nov 23, 2011
jw in the grove wrote:
<quoted text>wow what a deal, it only cost a billion or so to get good mpg. the taxpayers are so lucky
Yeah, I had an electrician wire some of my cabin wrong, so those electricians are ALL crooks/idiot, huh sparky ??? LMAOROTF !
Sam

United States

#32 Nov 23, 2011
Mom called-behave child wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah, I had an electrician wire some of my cabin wrong, so those electricians are ALL crooks/idiot, huh sparky ??? LMAOROTF !
Hey Mom. You mean our double wide. Don't you. And you are partial to battery powered things. Remember the fun we had last night. Ha ha.
Paul

Minneapolis, MN

#34 Nov 27, 2011
Mom-called can't win this argument because he's wrong as usual, so he uses insults and tries to change the topic.

What a loser.
Mom called-behave kids

Seattle, WA

#36 Nov 27, 2011
As a general rule, trains are considerably more energy efficient than buses. They release less damaging compounds into the atmosphere. This does not mean that traveling by bus is not a green mode of transit. In cities, for example, where trains may not be an option, they are considerably greener than cars. For long trips, however, trains are almost always the greenest option.
Measuring in Passenger MPG
Most of us are used to looking at travel in terms of miles per gallon (MPG). When looking at the actual carbon use of a mode of travel, however, it's important to look at per passenger MPG. For example, traveling in a bus that gets 10 MPG may seem to be more energy efficient than traveling in a train that gets the equivalent of 3 MPG. Yet, if the train contains 50 people on average--while the bus holds 10 on average--the train will have a higher passenger MPG; it will have 150 passenger MPG as opposed to 100 passenger MPG.
Rail BS

Minneapolis, MN

#37 Nov 27, 2011
Mom called-behave child wrote:
<quoted text>Your first and second sentence are premise and conclusion, were you going to include ANY proof ? I get it, EVERYBODY know, just like everybody knew the earth was flat ???
As a general rule, trains are considerably more energy efficient than buses. They release less damaging compounds into the atmosphere. This does not mean that traveling by bus is not a green mode of transit. In cities, for example, where trains may not be an option, they are considerably greener than cars. For long trips, however, trains are almost always the greenest option.
Measuring in Passenger MPG
Most of us are used to looking at travel in terms of miles per gallon (MPG). When looking at the actual carbon use of a mode of travel, however, it's important to look at per passenger MPG. For example, traveling in a bus that gets 10 MPG may seem to be more energy efficient than traveling in a train that gets the equivalent of 3 MPG. Yet, if the train contains 50 people on average--while the bus holds 10 on average--the train will have a higher passenger MPG; it will have 150 passenger MPG as opposed to 100 passenger MPG.
Has there ever been a case where a bus has failed and a train was brought in to cover the needed transportation?

In every case of LRT failure the good old bus is relied on to move the sheep.

Tell us: how many passenger MPG does a LRT train get when it's EMPTY?

AND the LRT is powered by electricity generated by burning COAL with the combustion byproducts be disposed of in the high atmosphere. How is that less polluting than ground level pollution from busses burning diesel?
Rail BS

Minneapolis, MN

#38 Nov 27, 2011
Mom called-behave kids wrote:
As a general rule, trains are considerably more energy efficient than buses. They release less damaging compounds into the atmosphere. This does not mean that traveling by bus is not a green mode of transit. In cities, for example, where trains may not be an option, they are considerably greener than cars. For long trips, however, trains are almost always the greenest option.
Measuring in Passenger MPG
Most of us are used to looking at travel in terms of miles per gallon (MPG). When looking at the actual carbon use of a mode of travel, however, it's important to look at per passenger MPG. For example, traveling in a bus that gets 10 MPG may seem to be more energy efficient than traveling in a train that gets the equivalent of 3 MPG. Yet, if the train contains 50 people on average--while the bus holds 10 on average--the train will have a higher passenger MPG; it will have 150 passenger MPG as opposed to 100 passenger MPG.
When the Washington Ave bridge crashes, how long will the CC LRT line be down?
Mom called-behave kids

Seattle, WA

#39 Nov 27, 2011
Rail BS wrote:
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When the Washington Ave bridge crashes, how long will the CC LRT line be down?
If you're asking me, why do I care, again ?
Rail BS

Minneapolis, MN

#40 Nov 27, 2011
Mom called-behave kids wrote:
<quoted text>If you're asking me, why do I care, again ?
I guess you know everything until you don't know sheet..

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Wade Gustafson

Saint Paul, MN

#41 Nov 27, 2011
Mom called-behave kids wrote:
As a general rule, trains are considerably more energy efficient than buses. They release less damaging compounds into the atmosphere. This does not mean that traveling by bus is not a green mode of transit. In cities, for example, where trains may not be an option, they are considerably greener than cars. For long trips, however, trains are almost always the greenest option.
Measuring in Passenger MPG
Most of us are used to looking at travel in terms of miles per gallon (MPG). When looking at the actual carbon use of a mode of travel, however, it's important to look at per passenger MPG. For example, traveling in a bus that gets 10 MPG may seem to be more energy efficient than traveling in a train that gets the equivalent of 3 MPG. Yet, if the train contains 50 people on average--while the bus holds 10 on average--the train will have a higher passenger MPG; it will have 150 passenger MPG as opposed to 100 passenger MPG.
What about all the resources used to BUILD the rail?
Mom called-behave kids

Seattle, WA

#42 Nov 27, 2011
Ditto.....Makes you look pretty silly asking....
Rail BS

Maple Plain, MN

#43 Nov 27, 2011
Mom called-behave kids wrote:
Ditto.....Makes you look pretty silly asking....
You are WORTHLESS.

Just give up and stick to Seattle!!

Minnesotians are to damn smart for ya!!
Postal Inspector

Saint Paul, MN

#44 Nov 27, 2011
Mom called-behave kids wrote:
Ditto.....Makes you look pretty silly asking....
Hey, you're the one I fired.

I hope you got that job as a Greeter at Wal-Mart that I gave you the recommendation for. Did you get the job? I know the competition was pretty stiff for a loser like you, but I did say you were up to the task with this job. Too bad you could not cut it at the Post Office. Best wishes and thanks for the laughs while you did work for us.
Sam

United States

#47 Nov 28, 2011
Mom called-behave kids wrote:
<quoted text>If you're asking me, why do I care, again ?
Hey Mom. What did you teach me again last night. Was it called pulling a train? What ever. It sure gave my moral compass a big thrill. Woo-hoo! Ha ha.

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