Cantor Wants to End Overtime

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non-starter

Minneapolis, MN

#1 Feb 27, 2013
In Eric Cantor's February 2013 speech, he said he wanted to propose Federal Law that would end overtime pay for hourly workers. Currently, the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 (FLSA), signed into law by President Franklin D. Roosevelt, mandates that certain workers get paid "time + 1/2" for overtime work. Eric Cantor wants to eliminate that law. Because -- ya know -- workers not getting paid for overtime hours worked out so good for workers before FDR enacted that Law.

Eric Cantor's "end of overtime pay for workers" that he talked about in his February speech was overshadowed, in part, by the public whining Cantor did bitching that 'Obama gave his speech at the same time as me ... wah, wah, wah.'

In this week's New Yorker Magazine, Ryan Lizza wrote an excellent article titled: "Can Eric Cantor, the Republican Majority Leader, redeem his party and himself?" in which Lizza reminded readers that Eric Cantor wants to end the Federal law that mandates certain workers get paid overtime for the extra hours they labor.

From the New Yorker Magazine:(page 12)

Can Eric Cantor, the Republican Majority Leader, redeem his party and himself?(page 13)

Cantor spoke about school choice, tax reform, expanding visas. After the speech, he rode back to the Capitol and met privately with House Republicans to discuss one of the policies he had emphasized: a policy that would allow workers to convert overtime compensation into time off.“I gave a talk today about helping people and about finally focussing on legislation that has understandable benefits right away,” Cantor said. He explained that it would help parents who wanted to go on a field trip or attend a teacher conference.“What I want to see is how we can communicate this, communicate the benefit. How are we going to build a coalition and get it done?”

First, the Republicans tried to do this very same thing in 2003 in a House Bill: HR 1119 "Family Time Flexibility Act" (isn't that a cute title for a bill that will end overtime pay for hourly working moms and dads)

In 2003, when the Republicans tried to end the requirement that hourly workers get paid overtime, they tried to sell it in good-old fashioned GOP Propaganda Minster: Frank Luntz terms. They used words like "Family Flex time" ... and ... "work longer hours so you can have half a day with your family, maybe"

Cantor's goal in allowing the interview with the New Yorker Magazine, was to re-market the GOP draconian policies.

Since the 2012 elections, the Republicans have been divided between those who believe their policies are the problem and those who believe they just need better marketing—between those who believe they need to make better pizza and those who think they just need a more attractive box. Cantor, who is known among his colleagues as someone with strategic intelligence and a knack for political positioning, argues that it’s the box.

Cantor was happy to make himself available for several long interviews. He persistently struck a diplomatic note and mentioned again and again how much he looked forward to working with Obama, a position that he said he’s been articulating for a long time.

“Why isn’t that your reputation, then?” I asked.

“I have to ask you that. Maybe you can make it so!”

No, Eric, it is not the "box" -- it is the policies.

One Percenters

Saint Paul, MN

#2 Feb 28, 2013
More proof - the Republicans are only on the side of the rich and big business.
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#3 Feb 28, 2013
One Percenters wrote:
More proof - the Republicans are only on the side of the rich and big business.
More proof, the left is twisting Cantor's speech to make statements he never proposed.
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#4 Feb 28, 2013
Excerpt from Cantor's speech the left is using to make their ridiculous claims:

Yet today, the federal government has a patchwork of over 47 different overlapping programs that are not dynamic or innovative enough to meet the needs of employers or potential employees. We can fix this, and we should be able to muster bipartisan support to do so.

If you’re a working parent, you know there’s hardly ever enough time at home to be with the kids. Too many parents have to weigh whether they can afford to miss work even for half a day to see their child off on the first day of school or attend a parent-teacher conference.

Federal laws dating back to the 1930s make it harder for parents who hold hourly jobs to balance the demands of work and home. An hourly employee cannot convert previous overtime into future comp-time or flex-time. In 1985, Congress passed a law that gave state and municipal employees this flexibility, but today still denies that same privilege to the entire private sector. That’s not right.

There’s a police officer at home in my district, her name is Vicki. She is working a tough job, with long hours, while raising her children. Her life is made a little easier because as a local government employee, she is permitted to work some extra hours and save it up for a sick day or a school event.

Imagine if we simply chose to give all employees and employers this option. A working mom could work overtime this month and use it as time off next month without having to worry about whether she’ll be able to take home enough money to pay the rent. This is the kind of common sense legislation that should be non-controversial and moves us in the right direction to help make life work for families.

How do you get this to read that Cantor wants to pass a federal law against overtime again?

Progressivism, for people bad at reading comprehension.

Read Cantor's whole speech in its' entirety here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/ ...
The Truth

Saint Paul, MN

#6 Feb 28, 2013
We all know Cantor and the Republicans have the interests of the poor and middle class at heart, no the rich and big business, right?

ROFLMAO!!!!!!

Do you actually believe ANYONE is dumb enough to believe this crap? Cantor and big business support repealing the FSLA to increase corporate profits, period.
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#7 Feb 28, 2013
The Truth wrote:
We all know Cantor and the Republicans have the interests of the poor and middle class at heart, no the rich and big business, right?
ROFLMAO!!!!!!
Do you actually believe ANYONE is dumb enough to believe this crap? Cantor and big business support repealing the FSLA to increase corporate profits, period.
So you get to choose not only what you think, but what Cantor is thinking now. Brilliant powers of deduction Sherlock. Show me where Cantor said what you are claiming he said. Not some Think Progress blog, not some Democratic underground hatchet piece. You can't find it, because all he said is in the speech I posted.

As for anyone dumb enough to believe this crap, you certainly are dumb enough to believe all the Think Progress crap regardless of validity.

The unions and the Democratic party want Cantor discredited. If some union workers got to choose to take more time off instead of overtime pay, it would mean less money into the union coffers, ultimately less money donated to the Democratic party.
non-starter is a toidi

Saint Paul, MN

#9 Feb 28, 2013
We all know Cantor and the Republicans have the interests of the poor and middle class at heart, no the rich and big business, right?

ROFLMAO!!!!!!

Do you actually believe ANYONE is dumb enough to believe this crap? Cantor and big business support repealing the FSLA to increase corporate profits, period.
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#10 Feb 28, 2013
non-starter is a toidi wrote:
We all know Cantor and the Republicans have the interests of the poor and middle class at heart, no the rich and big business, right?
ROFLMAO!!!!!!
Do you actually believe ANYONE is dumb enough to believe this crap? Cantor and big business support repealing the FSLA to increase corporate profits, period.
So you get to choose not only what you think, but what Cantor is thinking now. Brilliant powers of deduction Sherlock. Show me where Cantor said what you are claiming he said. Not some Think Progress blog, not some Democratic underground hatchet piece. You can't find it, because all he said is in the speech I posted.

As for anyone dumb enough to believe this crap, you certainly are dumb enough to believe all the Think Progress crap regardless of validity.

The unions and the Democratic party want Cantor discredited. If some union workers got to choose to take more time off instead of overtime pay, it would mean less money into the union coffers, ultimately less money donated to the Democratic party.
Bushwhacked

Seattle, WA

#11 Feb 28, 2013
Read the line where it says, "...meet the needs of employers or potential employees..".

That line is TOTAL BS !!!

The employer needs to maximize profit AT the employees expense.

QUIT LYING !!!!

You're the anti-union POS liar, who supports corporate greed and insults like a 6 year old...
Bushwhacked

Seattle, WA

#12 Feb 28, 2013
non-starter wrote:
<quoted text>So you get to choose not only what you think, but what Cantor is thinking now. Brilliant powers of deduction Sherlock. Show me where Cantor said what you are claiming he said. Not some Think Progress blog, not some Democratic underground hatchet piece. You can't find it, because all he said is in the speech I posted.
As for anyone dumb enough to believe this crap, you certainly are dumb enough to believe all the Think Progress crap regardless of validity.
The unions and the Democratic party want Cantor discredited. If some union workers got to choose to take more time off instead of overtime pay, it would mean less money into the union coffers, ultimately less money donated to the Democratic party.
Union coffers ??

Be honest, you mean working Americans supporting their political choices and families...
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#13 Feb 28, 2013
Bushwhacked wrote:
<quoted text>Union coffers ??
Be honest, you mean working Americans supporting their political choices and families...
The unions and the Democratic party want Cantor discredited. If some union workers got to choose to take more time off instead of overtime pay, it would mean less money into the union coffers, ultimately less money donated to the Democratic party.

So your position, is that you want to take away the ability of hard working Americans to be able to spend more time off with their families. I got you, unions don't want family friendly, they just want more dues.
Bushwhacked

Seattle, WA

#15 Feb 28, 2013
I like your OBVIOUS HYPOCRISY ~!! The same guy who didn't blink when Hostess workers DIDN'T get PAID contractual retirement monies, now is a friend to workers ??

BLATHER ~!

LMAOROTFU~!
The Truth

Saint Paul, MN

#16 Feb 28, 2013
The truth is plain and simple:

if Cantor's bill passes, employers would REQUIRE employees to take comp time instead of receiving overtime, which would LOWER workers gross wages for the year and INCREASE corporate profits for the year.

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#17 Feb 28, 2013
non-starter wrote:
<quoted text>The unions and the Democratic party want Cantor discredited. If some union workers got to choose to take more time off instead of overtime pay, it would mean less money into the union coffers, ultimately less money donated to the Democratic party.
So your position, is that you want to take away the ability of hard working Americans to be able to spend more time off with their families. I got you, unions don't want family friendly, they just want more dues.
And the last thing they seem to want is freedom to choose anything that does not have their stamp of approval.
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#18 Feb 28, 2013
The Truth wrote:
The truth is plain and simple:
if Cantor's bill passes, employers would REQUIRE employees to take comp time instead of receiving overtime, which would LOWER workers gross wages for the year and INCREASE corporate profits for the year.
I don't see the word "require" anywhere, once again, you "psychotically" putting words in other people's speeches.
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#19 Feb 28, 2013
Bushwhacked wrote:
I like your OBVIOUS HYPOCRISY ~!! The same guy who didn't blink when Hostess workers DIDN'T get PAID contractual retirement monies, now is a friend to workers ??
BLATHER ~!
LMAOROTFU~!
So your position, is that you want to take away the ability of hard working Americans to be able to spend more time off with their families. I got you, unions don't want family friendly, they just want more dues.
Bushwhacked

Seattle, WA

#21 Feb 28, 2013
non-starter wrote:
<quoted text>So your position, is that you want to take away the ability of hard working Americans to be able to spend more time off with their families. I got you, unions don't want family friendly, they just want more dues.
Dues are based on your hourly wage, it doesn't increase on OT. You're really a making no point, poorly.

If you're so poorly informed, why do you bother blathering ???
non-starter lies again

Saint Paul, MN

#22 Feb 28, 2013
non-starter wrote:
<quoted text> If some union workers got to choose to take more time off instead of overtime pay, it would mean less money into the union coffers, ultimately less money donated to the Democratic party.
Q: How much are the Union Dues?

A: The dues structure is set forth in the local's bylaws and were voted on by Local 205 members. Union dues for Full Members are 1.3% per pay period, based on your base pay and are automatically deducted by your employer, per the agreements between your employer and the Union. Overtime pay is not used when figuring out how much you will pay in dues.

http://www.seiu205.org/join/Default.aspx

Repeat: Overtime pay is not used when figuring out how much you will pay in dues.

Repeat: Overtime pay is not used when figuring out how much you will pay in dues.

Repeat: Overtime pay is not used when figuring out how much you will pay in dues.

Repeat: Overtime pay is not used when figuring out how much you will pay in dues.

Repeat: Overtime pay is not used when figuring out how much you will pay in dues.

Repeat: Overtime pay is not used when figuring out how much you will pay in dues.

Repeat: Overtime pay is not used when figuring out how much you will pay in dues.

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#23 Feb 28, 2013
non-starter wrote:
<quoted text>I don't see the word "require" anywhere, once again, you "psychotically" putting words in other people's speeches.
There is a serious reading comprehension deficiency on this forum.
I wonder if there is a cure for this. If only we had something like lots of writing on pages that one could, you know, read, to help build this skill.
Bushwhacked

Seattle, WA

#24 Feb 28, 2013
Repeat: Overtime pay is not used when figuring out how much you will pay in dues.
Repeat: Overtime pay is not used when figuring out how much you will pay in dues.
Repeat: Overtime pay is not used when figuring out how much you will pay in dues.
Repeat: Overtime pay is not used when figuring out how much you will pay in dues.
Repeat: Overtime pay is not used when figuring out how much you will pay in dues.
Repeat: Overtime pay is not used when figuring out how much you will pay in dues.
Repeat: Overtime pay is not used when figuring out how much you will pay in dues.

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