Hillary should pay for Benghazi

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Trigger

Minneapolis, MN

#1 Apr 7, 2014
Colonel Phil "Hands" Handley is credited with the highest speed air- to-air gun kill in the history of aerial combat.

Betrayal in Benghazi
Phil "Hands" Handley Colonel, USAF (Ret.)

The combat code of the US Military is that we don't abandon our dead or wounded on the battlefield. In US Air Force lingo, fighter pilots don't run off and leave their wingmen. If one of our own is shot down, still alive and not yet in enemy captivity, we will either come to get him or die trying.

The contention "that there were simply no military assets that could be brought to bear in time to make a difference" mainly due to the unavailability of tanker support for fighter aircraft.

This is simply Bull Shit, regardless how many supposed "experts" the Administration trot out to make such an assertion.

The bottom line is that even if the closest asset capable of response was half-way around the world, you don't just sit on your penguin ass and do nothing.

The fact is that the closest asset was not half-way around the world, but as near as Aviano Air Base , Italy where two squadrons of F-16Cs are based.

Consider the following scenario (all times Benghazi local): When Hicks in Tripoli receives a call at 9:40 PM from Ambassador Stevens informing him "Greg, we are under attack!" (his last words), Hicks immediately notifies all agencies and prepares for the immediate initiation of an existing "Emergency Response Plan."

At AFRICON, General Carter Ham attempts to mount a rescue effort, but is told to "stand down". By 10:30 PM an unarmed drone is overhead the compound and streaming live feed to various "Command and Control Agencies" so everyone watching that feed knew damn well what was going on.

At 11:30 PM Woods, Doherty and five others leave Tripoli, arriving in Benghazi at 1:30 AM on Wednesday morning, where they hold off the attacking mob from the roof of the compound until they are killed by a mortar direct hit at 4:00 AM.

So nothing could have been done, eh? Nonsense. If one assumes that tanker support really "was not available" what about this:

When at 10:00 PM AFRICON alerts the 31st TFW Command Post in Aviano Air Base, Italy of the attack, the Wing Commander orders preparation for the launch of two F-16s and advises the Command Post at NAS Sigonella to prepare for hot pit refueling and quick turn of the jets.

By 11:30 PM, two F-16Cs with drop tanks and each armed with five hundred 20 MM rounds are airborne. Flying at 0.92 mach they will cover the 522 nautical miles directly to NAS Sigonella in 1.08 hours. While in-route, the flight lead is informed of the tactical situation, rules of engagement, and radio frequencies to use.

The jets depart Sigonella at 1:10 AM with full fuel load and cover the 377 nautical miles directly to Benghazi in 0.8 hours, arriving at 1:50 AM which would be 20 minutes after the arrival of Woods, Doherty and their team.

Providing that the two F-16s initial pass over the mob, in full afterburner at 200 feet and 550 knots did not stop the attack in its tracks, a few well placed strafing runs on targets of opportunity would assuredly do the trick.

Were the F-16s fuel state insufficient to return to Sigonelli after jettisoning their external drop tanks, they could easily do so at Tripoli International Airport , only one-half hour away.

The end result would be that Woods and Doherty would be alive. Dozens in the attacking rabble would be rendezvousing with "72 virgins" and a clear message would have been sent to the next worthless P.O.S. terrorist contemplating an attack on Americans that it is not really a good idea to "tug" on Superman's cape.

Ultimately it comes down to the question of who gave that order to stand down? Whoever that coward turns out to be should be exposed, removed from office, and face criminal charges for dereliction of duty. The combat forces of the United States of America deserve leadership that really does "have their back" when the chips are down.
LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#2 Apr 7, 2014
They asked for more security 8 times in the year prior to the attack. All they got was budget cuts and LOCAL police protection.
redeemer

Saint Paul, MN

#3 Apr 7, 2014
If anyone's to be blame for what happen in Benghazi it should be ex-NsA chief General Petraous who gotten caught writing love and sexual e-mails to his girl friend during the Libyan-Arab spring.
Roy Rogers

Minneapolis, MN

#4 Apr 7, 2014
redeemer wrote:
If anyone's to be blame for what happen in Benghazi it should be ex-NsA chief General Petraous who gotten caught writing love and sexual e-mails to his girl friend during the Libyan-Arab spring.
Weakest post you have ever put up yet.
redeemer

Saint Paul, MN

#5 Apr 7, 2014
redeemer wrote:
If anyone's to be blame for what happen in Benghazi it should be ex-NsA chief General Petraous who gotten caught writing love and sexual e-mails to his girl friend during the Libyan-Arab spring.
My bad Petraeus was the director of the CIA from April 2011 Until Nov.
2012 and Benghazi happen in Sept.11,2012 so that mean the CIA Director(petraeus) drop the ball.
and Benghazi was his screw up.
jade

Montezuma, GA

#6 Apr 7, 2014
Hillary will answer Bengahzi questions by the thousands come campaign time. Oh, believe me, she's going to learn, "What difference does it make?"
Run Hillary Run. We cant wait.
Disraeli

Sedona, AZ

#8 Apr 7, 2014
Opinion wrote:
<quoted text> No way Jose!, and quit feeding your horse fresh deer meat cause Trigger stinks like sh!t.
The Slime brings it's own judge marks with it.
redeemer

Saint Paul, MN

#9 Apr 8, 2014
Disraeli wrote:
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The Slime brings it's own judge marks with it.
You're just jealous because you everybody judge marks you as an clueless idiot,a lying spammer, and a big red X,for your buffoonery.
redeemer

Saint Paul, MN

#10 Apr 8, 2014
Roy Rogers wrote:
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Weakest post you have ever put up yet.
Is that you Libby? How weak is my post now since you know the facts ? hit me back if you got the courage.
LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#11 Apr 8, 2014
redeemer wrote:
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Is that you Libby? How weak is my post now since you know the facts ? hit me back if you got the courage.
It wasn't me, but the fact is that eyes and ears were on the ground long before anyone started spouting anything about this being because of some youtube post - and Hillary knew it.
redeemer

Saint Paul, MN

#12 Apr 8, 2014
LIbEralS wrote:
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It wasn't me, but the fact is that eyes and ears were on the ground long before anyone started spouting anything about this being because of some youtube post - and Hillary knew it.
Sureee anything that the party say's has got to be right.how would you hater if your faith and reglion was constantly attacked and demoralize by people of a different faith? how many wars in world history have been fought over religious idealogue? your disrepect of others belief sprew hate and discourse.
redeemer

Saint Paul, MN

#13 Apr 8, 2014
LIbEralS wrote:
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It wasn't me, but the fact is that eyes and ears were on the ground long before anyone started spouting anything about this being because of some youtube post - and Hillary knew it.
So what about the CIA Director isn't it the CIA mission to gather international intel? and using his government issue tools for his personal libido activity? but I do think the President share some blame for hiring that republican turn coat operative,this President trusted that fraud and I hope that he learn his lesson about the party of haters.
Trigger

Minneapolis, MN

#14 Apr 8, 2014
redeemer wrote:
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So what about the CIA Director isn't it the CIA mission to gather international intel? and using his government issue tools for his personal libido activity? but I do think the President share some blame for hiring that republican turn coat operative,this President trusted that fraud and I hope that he learn his lesson about the party of haters.
Benghazi is all about the "Stand Down" command issued by Clinton OR Obama.

IMHO, the military commander should have called for a drill that evening and saved the Ambassador and Seals, RIP.

Once the "Drill" was complete and the Americans saved the AF Commander would have been removed from his command. Of course we all now know he will be removed from command anyway as a result of the "Right Coloring" of the military and downsizing to Pre-WW2 troop levels.
LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#15 Apr 8, 2014
redeemer wrote:
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So what about the CIA Director isn't it the CIA mission to gather international intel? and using his government issue tools for his personal libido activity? but I do think the President share some blame for hiring that republican turn coat operative,this President trusted that fraud and I hope that he learn his lesson about the party of haters.
Ultimately Hillary is where the buck stops. But what difference does it make anyway?
Trigger

Minneapolis, MN

#16 Apr 8, 2014
LIbEralS wrote:
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Ultimately Hillary is where the buck stops. But what difference does it make anyway?
Quote Hillary.
redeemer

Saint Paul, MN

#17 Apr 8, 2014
LIbEralS wrote:
They asked for more security 8 times in the year prior to the attack. All they got was budget cuts and LOCAL police protection.
Thats another one of your lies,Ambassor Stevens was over a security team and he decline,and he was told to stay home and he went to the embassy on his own accord under the impression that the people just love him. Taps.
redeemer

Saint Paul, MN

#18 Apr 8, 2014
Trigger wrote:
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Benghazi is all about the "Stand Down" command issued by Clinton OR Obama.
IMHO, the military commander should have called for a drill that evening and saved the Ambassador and Seals, RIP.
Once the "Drill" was complete and the Americans saved the AF Commander would have been removed from his command. Of course we all now know he will be removed from command anyway as a result of the "Right Coloring" of the military and downsizing to Pre-WW2 troop levels.
What do you mean by the Right Coloring please speak english.
Trigger

Minneapolis, MN

#19 Apr 8, 2014
redeemer wrote:
<quoted text> What do you mean by the Right Coloring please speak english.
Hope and Change.

If you haven't noticed what Obama is doing you ARE color blind.
redeemer

Saint Paul, MN

#20 Apr 8, 2014
Trigger wrote:
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Hope and Change.
If you haven't noticed what Obama is doing you ARE color blind.
You're a sly one hahaha you're make a good fiim/flam man! Me color blind ? I never notice.
LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#21 Jul 19, 2014
Greta Van Susteren: Obama ‘Tried Very Hard’ To Discourage Fox News From Reporting About Benghazi:

Hey, it’s the Chicago Way™, right?

On her blog, Greta Van Susteren, who hosts a 7PM news show on Fox News Channel, recounted how the Obama administration has repeatedly attempted to punish Fox News for its reporting about Benghazi. Apparently, the administration hoped that its retaliatory efforts would prevent the most popular name in cable news from reporting about the subject.

It didn’t work.

Van Susteren recounted the various strong arm tactics used by members of the President’s team. She claimed that the administration “tried very hard” to discourage reporting about the terrorist attack on the U.S. embassy in Benghazi in September, 2012.

First, she wrote:“In the early days after Benghazi, the State Department omitted only Fox News Channel from its conference call to all the media when it claimed to be answering questions about Benghazi for the media.”

Second, she noted that the CIA would later provide a briefing, for all networks except Fox, about Benghazi.

The kicker: Van Susteren claims that a “friend” of hers in the administration attempted to get her to tell her colleague, Fox News reporter Jennifer Griffin, to stop her reporting on Benghazi. This so-called “friend” claimed that Griffin would “ruin her career” over her reporting.

Wow.

Van Susteren also took the administration to task for attempting to claim that the terrorist attack in Benghazi was a spontaneous response to a video as opposed to a planned effort.

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