Eagan: Besides shops, outlet mall project will mean another city park

Posted in the Minneapolis Forum

non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#1 Jan 14, 2013
Eagan residents will get more than low-cost goods when a proposed outlet mall opens for business in the city in two years.

As part of a development agreement with Eagan, Baltimore-based Paragon Outlet Partners will purchase a roughly 3.5-acre parcel for a city-owned park south of the mall -- a 100-store center to be built near the intersection of Cedar Avenue and Minnesota 13.

The city's economic development authority sold the parcel to Paragon for $347,600 as part of a $14.73 million purchase agreement for 33 acres of city-owned land in the Cedar Grove Redevelopment Area. Paragon will donate the parkland to the city after the sale closes and before construction of the mall begins next spring.

Developers are required to donate land or cash for parks, or sometimes both, to the city when building commercial or residential projects.

Parks commission members saw a concept plan for the first time during a presentation last week by a landscape architect with WSB and Associates, a Minneapolis-based architectural firm.

In recent months, the parks commission has met with neighbors at community meetings to help develop the park, which will be adjacent Cedar Grove Parkway and Nicols Ridge townhomes.

It will be a "satellite park" to Woodhaven Park and will cater to young families in the townhome development directly across from the mall, parks and recreation director Juli Seydell Johnson said.

Most of the northern third of the park is being set aside as an

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"active area," with playground equipment, a basketball half-court with pickleball striping and horseshoe and four-square courts.
Plans call for an open space area, a picnic shelter, performance area with seating for small shows and an eight-stall parking lot off Cedar Grove Parkway.

Eagan is budgeting $175,000 in next year's budget to develop the park.

"It is not a true neighborhood park in that it doesn't have a full list of amenities, but we feel like we can pack in a few smaller ones to augment what is available through the rest of the park system," Seydell Johnson said.

A trail will wind through the middle of the park and connect with the neighborhood to the south. Another trail to the north eventually will be built along Cedar Grove Parkway.

On the heels of last month's preliminary approval by the Eagan City Council, Paragon announced this week that Saks Fifth Avenue OFF 5TH will be a major anchor store at the 441,000-square-foot, open-air outlet mall.

Paragon has said it will court many of its "retail partners" that are found at the company's other outlet malls, including Brooks Brothers Factory Store, Coach, The Children's Place, DKNY and Nike.

Paragon said the project is expected to bring about 400 construction jobs, and another 1,500 to 2,000 permanent jobs when the mall opens in November 2014.
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#2 Jan 14, 2013
non-starter wrote:
Eagan residents will get more than low-cost goods when a proposed outlet mall opens for business in the city in two years.
As part of a development agreement with Eagan, Baltimore-based Paragon Outlet Partners will purchase a roughly 3.5-acre parcel for a city-owned park south of the mall -- a 100-store center to be built near the intersection of Cedar Avenue and Minnesota 13.
The city's economic development authority sold the parcel to Paragon for $347,600 as part of a $14.73 million purchase agreement for 33 acres of city-owned land in the Cedar Grove Redevelopment Area. Paragon will donate the parkland to the city after the sale closes and before construction of the mall begins next spring.
Developers are required to donate land or cash for parks, or sometimes both, to the city when building commercial or residential projects.
Parks commission members saw a concept plan for the first time during a presentation last week by a landscape architect with WSB and Associates, a Minneapolis-based architectural firm.
In recent months, the parks commission has met with neighbors at community meetings to help develop the park, which will be adjacent Cedar Grove Parkway and Nicols Ridge townhomes.
It will be a "satellite park" to Woodhaven Park and will cater to young families in the townhome development directly across from the mall, parks and recreation director Juli Seydell Johnson said.
Most of the northern third of the park is being set aside as an
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"active area," with playground equipment, a basketball half-court with pickleball striping and horseshoe and four-square courts.
Plans call for an open space area, a picnic shelter, performance area with seating for small shows and an eight-stall parking lot off Cedar Grove Parkway.
Eagan is budgeting $175,000 in next year's budget to develop the park.
"It is not a true neighborhood park in that it doesn't have a full list of amenities, but we feel like we can pack in a few smaller ones to augment what is available through the rest of the park system," Seydell Johnson said.
A trail will wind through the middle of the park and connect with the neighborhood to the south. Another trail to the north eventually will be built along Cedar Grove Parkway.
On the heels of last month's preliminary approval by the Eagan City Council, Paragon announced this week that Saks Fifth Avenue OFF 5TH will be a major anchor store at the 441,000-square-foot, open-air outlet mall.
Paragon has said it will court many of its "retail partners" that are found at the company's other outlet malls, including Brooks Brothers Factory Store, Coach, The Children's Place, DKNY and Nike.
Paragon said the project is expected to bring about 400 construction jobs, and another 1,500 to 2,000 permanent jobs when the mall opens in November 2014.
So now out of the 45 acres in the site, 6 acres go to a parking ramp owned and operated by Eagan, cost $19 million($4.2 million of which comes from the $14.73 million Paragon purchased the 29 acres for), and another 3.5 acres is now off the tax rolls, a city park.

This leaves 6 acres in this area for development. Eagan spends $59 million, sells 29 acres for $14.73 million, gets another $350k for 3.5 acres, spends $19 million to build a parking ramp the city has to own and operate on 6 acres of the development. So Eagan is currently on the hook for $44 million with 6 acres left to develop. What a great business decision.
Amused Slew

Seattle, WA

#3 Jan 14, 2013
I like logic,... radon testing kits are cheap, easy, and a good way to prevent cancers which are easily detected.... Non-sense "suggests" sand is a CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER AND WE SHOULD BAN SAND ???

Come on, it that isn't a NUTCASE POSITION, WHAT IS ???
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#4 Jan 14, 2013
Amused Slew wrote:
I like logic,... radon testing kits are cheap, easy, and a good way to prevent cancers which are easily detected.... Non-sense "suggests" sand is a CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER AND WE SHOULD BAN SAND ???
Come on, it that isn't a NUTCASE POSITION, WHAT IS ???
I like your logic, the city should lose the taxpayers money for the good of the taxpayers. You are a real schmendrick.
Amused Slew

Seattle, WA

#5 Jan 14, 2013
Who wrote THAT ??? On yeah, NO-INTEGRITY non-sensical !!!

I like logic,... radon testing kits are cheap, easy, and a good way to prevent cancers which are easily detected.... Non-sense "suggests" sand is a CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER AND WE SHOULD BAN SAND ???
Come on, it that isn't a NUTCASE POSITION, WHAT IS ?

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#6 Jan 14, 2013
non-starter wrote:
<quoted text>I like your logic, the city should lose the taxpayers money for the good of the taxpayers. You are a real schmendrick.
It looks like someone is having issues keeping track of which thread they are currently infecting with their Amused drivel. You can't fix slewpid.
Amused Slew

Seattle, WA

#7 Jan 14, 2013
You cantgetitup in any of your "monikers"...LMAOROT FU~!
The Truth Squad

Rancho Mirage, CA

#8 Jan 14, 2013
Dedicating land for park use has been an Eagan staple for years. An exception was made when West Publishing went before the City Council to build their facility. At the same time the Y was also looking for approval to build a new place in Eagan.
West board said they would pay for the Y's building if they did not have to set aside any land and the Council approved the plans. Guess that worked OK since West went from 2600 employees in St. Paul to close to 8,000 now in Eagan.
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#9 Jan 14, 2013
The Truth Squad wrote:
Dedicating land for park use has been an Eagan staple for years. An exception was made when West Publishing went before the City Council to build their facility. At the same time the Y was also looking for approval to build a new place in Eagan.
West board said they would pay for the Y's building if they did not have to set aside any land and the Council approved the plans. Guess that worked OK since West went from 2600 employees in St. Paul to close to 8,000 now in Eagan.
Part-time retail jobs aren't the same as white collar jobs.
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#10 Jan 14, 2013
The Truth Squad wrote:
Dedicating land for park use has been an Eagan staple for years. An exception was made when West Publishing went before the City Council to build their facility. At the same time the Y was also looking for approval to build a new place in Eagan.
West board said they would pay for the Y's building if they did not have to set aside any land and the Council approved the plans. Guess that worked OK since West went from 2600 employees in St. Paul to close to 8,000 now in Eagan.
West purchased land, didn't ask Eagan to subsidize their purchase, Eagan didn't have to build and operate a $19 million parking ramp for West, etc. and so on and so forth. West bought a vacant parcel, Eagan wasn't the "developer" on that one.
The Truth Squad

Rancho Mirage, CA

#11 Jan 14, 2013
non-starter wrote:
<quoted text>West purchased land, didn't ask Eagan to subsidize their purchase, Eagan didn't have to build and operate a $19 million parking ramp for West, etc. and so on and so forth. West bought a vacant parcel, Eagan wasn't the "developer" on that one.
It also was not legally designated "blighted" land as Cedarvale area has been. It had an Agricultural land use designation. Big difference.
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#12 Jan 14, 2013
The Truth Squad wrote:
<quoted text>
It also was not legally designated "blighted" land as Cedarvale area has been. It had an Agricultural land use designation. Big difference.
Evidently there was no difference in your mind prior, or you wouldn't have brought it up as a valid comparison.

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