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Smart Ames Man

Ames, IA

#1 Jul 21, 2013
People who fire guns at drones are endangering the public and property and could be prosecuted or fined, the Federal Aviation Administration warned Friday.

The FAA released a statement in response to questions about an ordinance under consideration in the tiny farming community of Deer Trail, Colo., that would encourage hunters to shoot down drones. The administration reminded the public that it regulates the nation's airspace, including the airspace over cities and towns.

A drone "hit by gunfire could crash, causing damage to persons or property on the ground, or it could collide with other objects in the air," the statement said. "Shooting at an unmanned aircraft could result in criminal or civil liability, just as would firing at a manned airplane."

Under the proposed ordinance, Deer Trail would grant hunting permits to shoot drones. The permits would cost $25 each. The town would also encourage drone hunting by awarding $100 to anyone who presents a valid hunting license and identifiable pieces of a drone that has been shot down.

Deer Trail resident Phillip Steel, 48, author of the proposal, said in an interview that he has 28 signatures on a petition roughly 10 percent of the town's registered voters. Under Colorado law, that requires local officials to formally consider the proposal at a meeting next month, he said. Town officials would then have the option of adopting the ordinance or putting it on the ballot in an election this fall, he said.

The proposed ordinance is mostly a symbolic protest against small, civilian drones that are coming into use in the United States, Steel said. He acknowledged that it's unlikely there are any drones in use near Deer Trail.

"I don't want to live in a surveillance society. I don't feel like being in a virtual prison," Steel said. "This is a pre-emptive strike."

He dismissed the FAA's warning. "The FAA doesn't have the power to make a law," he said.

The FAA is working on regulations to safely integrate drones into the skies over the U.S., where manned aircraft are prevalent. The Congress gave the FAA until 2015 to develop the regulations, but the agency is behind schedule. FAA officials have estimated that once regulations are in place, thousands of drones will be in use across the country for a wide variety of purposes, from helping farmers figure out which crops need watering to tracking sea lions in remote rocky outcroppings to aiding search and rescue missions.

But the Deer Trail proposal is the latest ripple in a spreading backlash against drones. Dozens of laws aimed at curbing the use of the unmanned aircraft have been introduced in states and cities. Privacy advocates have expressed fear that police will use drones to cheaply and effectively conduct widespread surveillance without warrants.

The Association for Unmanned Vehicle Systems International, a drone industry trade group, was concerned enough last year about people threatening to shoot down drones that it issued a statement warning that such comments were "irresponsible, dangerous and unlawful."

Michael Toscano, president and CEO of the group, expressed similar concerns Friday, saying drones "are being designed to serve the public good....The myriad of important uses will be imperiled if they become targets.... The suggestion that Americans take up arms against unmanned aircraft also endangers citizens on the ground."

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Smart Ames Man

Ames, IA

#2 Jul 21, 2013
Let's go drone hunting!

Since: Jul 10

Minneapolis, MN

#4 Jul 21, 2013
one has to wonder if any of those folks in the FAA are members of that wacko group peta.
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since they were thinking of using drones in hopes of saving various animals from folks with legally obtained game licences.

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#6 Jul 22, 2013
Smart Ames Man wrote:
Let's go drone hunting!
The feds should not have the authority for drone surveillance except in instances of serious security issues. And then, only with a warrant.
So much for 4th and 5th amendments.

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#7 Jul 22, 2013
Sangelia wrote:
one has to wonder if any of those folks in the FAA are members of that wacko group peta.
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since they were thinking of using drones in hopes of saving various animals from folks with legally obtained game licences.
PETA has already used drones in the form of RC helicopters and planes to harass hunters. And several of those have indeed been shot down. And it was damned funny.

Since: Jul 10

Minneapolis, MN

#9 Jul 22, 2013
cantmakeitup wrote:
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PETA has already used drones in the form of RC helicopters and planes to harass hunters. And several of those have indeed been shot down. And it was damned funny.
It is illegal now in Illinois for peta to harass hunters that way.
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Most likely peta went crying to the FAA about it. And this is most likely why the FAA is saying about folks shooting drones.
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We need to get the states to follow in Illinois's steps. Make it illegal for those peta wackos to harass folks who are trying to feed their family thru hunting food legally. And this includes fishing. Since those wackos are planning on using them over where folks like to go fishing.
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If peta gets hunting decreased or even removed. That is a loss of revenue for the States who uses the money from the sale of hunting and fishing licences.

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#10 Jul 22, 2013
cantmakeitup wrote:
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Could you let us know what your qualifications and education in constitutional law are?
Try reading the Bill of Rights sometime. It's not so complicated that one needs a degree to figure it out. However some degree of reading comprehension is helpful.

Can you tell me which of the framers had a degree in constitutional law?

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#11 Jul 22, 2013
Sangelia wrote:
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It is illegal now in Illinois for peta to harass hunters that way.
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Most likely peta went crying to the FAA about it. And this is most likely why the FAA is saying about folks shooting drones.
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We need to get the states to follow in Illinois's steps. Make it illegal for those peta wackos to harass folks who are trying to feed their family thru hunting food legally. And this includes fishing. Since those wackos are planning on using them over where folks like to go fishing.
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If peta gets hunting decreased or even removed. That is a loss of revenue for the States who uses the money from the sale of hunting and fishing licences.
How about we just get PETA branded as a terrorist organization?

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#14 Jul 22, 2013
cantmakeitup wrote:
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You obviously disagree with the US Supreme Court, so I'm assuming that you must be highly educated in Constitutional law.
Anything that attempts to override our constitutional rights, yes I disagree with that.

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#15 Jul 22, 2013
cantmakeitup wrote:
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You right wing whackos that are so up in arms about abortions - terminating the life of a fetus - should be equally opposed to the killing of animals, or at least respect the rights of those that feel that way.
Could you let us know your qualifications in political science and constitutional law?

And you conveniently evaded the other question:
Can you tell us which of the framers of the Constitution had degrees in constitutional law?

PS: It's not just a fetus, it's a human fetus. Abortion is not birth control.
Bushwhacker

Saint Paul, MN

#16 Jul 22, 2013
FYI, it's illegal to harrass Minnesota hunters as well.

In a bar frequented by natives a number of them were bragging about shooting at drones, none had been downed yet. They were upgrading their weapons to ,50 cal and were sure they would be knocking one down soon.

You see natives rule their own nation with no need to obey any white mans laws. In fact if a drone is observing activity on a reservation from over US land they can legally shoot it down.

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#18 Jul 22, 2013
Bushwhacker wrote:
FYI, it's illegal to harrass Minnesota hunters as well.
In a bar frequented by natives a number of them were bragging about shooting at drones, none had been downed yet. They were upgrading their weapons to ,50 cal and were sure they would be knocking one down soon.
You see natives rule their own nation with no need to obey any white mans laws. In fact if a drone is observing activity on a reservation from over US land they can legally shoot it down.
The ones PETA has been using can be shot down like a duck with a 12Ga.
Bushwhacker

Saint Paul, MN

#19 Jul 22, 2013
cantmakeitup wrote:
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The ones PETA has been using can be shot down like a duck with a 12Ga.
It would be funny to have PETA visit a "HOT" hunting area.

The sound of gunfire would dirty their pants. Like you say a shotgun will quickly neutralize their toys.
John Lee Anonymous

Saint Paul, MN

#20 Jul 22, 2013
cantmakeitup wrote:
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Could you let us know what your qualifications and education in constitutional law are?
This from someone who can't even come up with an original user-name! LMFAO

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#22 Jul 22, 2013
John Lee Anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>This from someone who can't even come up with an original user-name! LMFAO
Since I'm the one who registered it, I got here first. Therefore, I invented it. All others are copycats.

“GiveMe Liberty or GiveMe Death”

Since: Jun 13

Land of Liberty

#23 Jul 22, 2013
cantmakeitup wrote:
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The ones PETA has been using can be shot down like a duck with a 12Ga.
PETA wants an incident. No publicity is bad publicity to them. They are some of the most disgusting people on the face of the earth. They would prefer the death of humanity to save some bugs or retarded looking fish.

“GiveMe Liberty or GiveMe Death”

Since: Jun 13

Land of Liberty

#24 Jul 22, 2013
Sangelia wrote:
one has to wonder if any of those folks in the FAA are members of that wacko group peta.
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since they were thinking of using drones in hopes of saving various animals from folks with legally obtained game licences.
Probably, or at least get some cash from 'em. America, freedom, liberty, mean nothing to these people.
John Lee Anonymous

Saint Paul, MN

#25 Jul 22, 2013
cantmakeitup wrote:
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Since I'm the one who registered it, I got here first. Therefore, I invented it. All others are copycats.
I hope you didn't think I meant you, I was addressing the name-jacking troll from St. Paul!
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#26 Jul 22, 2013
Ahhhhh..... Registering means you own something you never paid for ??? Love bagger "logic".

Guess, you canbeapos, with your childish rules.
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#27 Jul 22, 2013
John Lee Anonymous wrote:
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I hope you didn't think I meant you, I was addressing the name-jacking troll from St. Paul!
The smarted poster, huh ???

Love the irony/hypocrisy, name "jacking" is partisan, too.

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