CRASSUS's Cardinals
DSM Local

Ankeny, IA

#21 Sep 17, 2012
Philadelphia Eagles vs. Arizona Cardinals

The Philadelphia Eagles have turned the ball over at least four times in each of their two games but will head to the desert in a Week 3 contest featuring a pair of undefeated teams.

Arizona snapped a five-game losing streak to the New England Patriots, capturing a 20-18 victory as 14-point road underdogs.

Sports bettors need to be careful in backing the road favorite in this spot, as they have a home game against the New York Giants on deck, while also going 1-6 ATS when laying points versus an opponent off back-to-back wins.

Week 3 Betting Odds: Philadelphia Eagles -4

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1336776-nf...

I take the Eagles
26-24
game line

Ankeny, IA

#22 Sep 21, 2012
Philadelphia Eagles Vs Arizona Cardinals: Betting Odds, Preview and Prediction

By OddsShark

Michael Vick gets some fresh meat on the offensive line for Sunday's battle with Arizona. Do the Eagles deserve to be road chalk against a 2-0 Cardinals team that has won nine of 11 games overall?

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Sep 21, 2012 - In a surprising battle of undefeated, the Philadelphia Eagles visit the Arizona Cardinals Sunday in a matchup that has a surprising point spread.

The Eagles, the luckiest 2-0 team in decades after rallying twice for 1-point victories, opened as 5.5-point road chalk back on Monday, but a steady stream of Arizona money has the line at -3 or -3.5 at most sportsbooks tracked by OddsShark.com .

The game sees former Eagle pivot Kevin Kolb faciing his old mates and sees the Eagles trying out more new faces on the offensive line, after injuries have decimated it.

"A patchwork O-Line doesn't give many bettors a lot of comfort, especially if it means less protection for Michael Vick," said football analysts Jack Randall of OddsShark.com . "And Arizona has quietly won nine of 11 games and have dominated the spread at home lately, going 8-3 ATS."

Conventional football wisdom states that you can't win games if you don't protect the ball, but the 2012 Philadelphia Eagles don't believe in conventional wisdom. After turning the ball over five times in a 1-point win over Cleveland in Week 1, the Eagles turned the ball over four times in a 1-point win over Baltimore last week.

Vick has thrown six interceptions on the young season, but has also led his team to wins in the final two minutes of each of their first two games. The Eagles are 2-0 SU but 0-2 ATS as a result.

Every year there is an "any given Sunday" moment that reminds NFL bettors that anything can happen, and it came early this year when the Arizona Cardinals went into New England and beat the Patriots outright as a 13-point underdog last week.

This effort came just one week after an upset win as a 2.5-point underdog at home against Seattle. Arizona's defense has allowed just 17 points per game through these two games.

With equally improbable roads to 2-0, which of these teams will make its way to 3-0? On paper (and going on preseason expectations), Philadelphia should be able to beat the Cardinals handily. But from what we've seen on the field, there isn't any reason to expect that Arizona's defense can't keep this one close.

In four meetings since 2005, Arizona has a 3-1 SU and ATS advantage over Philadelphia, including a 21-17 win last year in Philadelphia as a 12.5-point underdog.

Both of these teams finished last year strong (Philadelphia 4-0 SU, Arizona 5-1 SU) and have seemingly carried that momentum into 2012. At home, with the points, we like Arizona to keep this one close; even if Vick steals another game in the closing moments.

PICK: Arizona +3.5

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2012/9/21/3367784...
DSM Local

Ankeny, IA

#23 Sep 21, 2012
Eagles 24-20
DSM Local

Ankeny, IA

#24 Sep 21, 2012
CRASSUS wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks! I told you that that Tom Brady guy would take the Cards for granted. His brother Peter Brady could have done a better job.
how will kolb do against his old team?
CRASSUS

Neenah, WI

#25 Sep 21, 2012
highlights wrote:
http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/09/1 6/unexpected-and-expected-for- week-3-cardinals-are-2-0/
This week the seldom arrested Cardinals will beat the Philadelphia Dog Killers 35-23. Vick will leave the game in pain.
DSM Local

Ankeny, IA

#26 Sep 21, 2012
CRASSUS wrote:
<quoted text>This week the seldom arrested Cardinals will beat the Philadelphia Dog Killers 35-23. Vick will leave the game in pain.
Ha, of course he will

Has Vick paid off his debts yet?

The cardinals I feel need a real QB to truly compete for the division crown though, SF is there after all

Since: Apr 12

Hugo, MN

#27 Sep 21, 2012
DSM Local wrote:
<quoted text>
Ha, of course he will
Has Vick paid off his debts yet?
The cardinals I feel need a real QB to truly compete for the division crown though, SF is there after all
SF won't lose a division game this year. However, the Cards could still get in as a wildcard.
DSM Local

Ankeny, IA

#28 Sep 21, 2012
Trolls wrote:
<quoted text>SF won't lose a division game this year. However, the Cards could still get in as a wildcard.
maybe it really depends on their QB play, maybe Vince Young can come back, can't be worse then what they have

Since: Apr 12

Hugo, MN

#29 Sep 21, 2012
DSM Local wrote:
<quoted text>
maybe it really depends on their QB play, maybe Vince Young can come back, can't be worse then what they have
lol. then you must not have seen Young play the last time he had the opportunity!
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/9589...
DSM Local

Ankeny, IA

#30 Sep 21, 2012
Trolls wrote:
<quoted text>lol. then you must not have seen Young play the last time he had the opportunity!
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/9589...
I think he sucked with the 2nd team bills and was cut

I'm just sayning the QB situation is very bad in Arizona and they are putting themselves out of contention of Barkley

Since: Apr 12

Hugo, MN

#31 Sep 21, 2012
DSM Local wrote:
<quoted text>
I think he sucked with the 2nd team bills and was cut
I'm just sayning the QB situation is very bad in Arizona and they are putting themselves out of contention of Barkley
I agree about the QB situation in AZ. They have won because of their defense, not their QB play. Although Kolb and Skelton seemed to not mess up enough to keep their team in it. I just don't think there's really a better option out there, unless they are willing to give something up in a trade. Maybe they could get Tavaris Jackson? lol
Seattle Slew

Neenah, WI

#32 Sep 21, 2012
Trolls wrote:
<quoted text>lol. then you must not have seen Young play the last time he had the opportunity!
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/9589...
Who wants this crybaby on their team? The Jigger can spend cash though.

The mother of Tennessee Titans quarterback Vince Young said he's "hurting inside and out" and indicated he might not want to play football any longer.

Felicia Young said in Wednesday editions of The Tennessean that her son is tired of all of the negativity he's faced after being booed during a 17-10 win Sunday over Jacksonville.

"What would you think, if you were tired of being ridiculed and persecuted and talked about and not being treated very well, what would you do? What kind of decision would you make?" Felicia Young said. "He may not want to deal with it [all], but you have to get to that point before you make that decision first.

"But we're not talking about football right now. We're talking about what would make him happy, and that is the most important thing."

Young grew up in the Hiram Clarke neighborhood of Houston, Texas, where he was primarily raised by his mother and his grandmother. His father, Vincent Young Sr., missed much of Vince's college career due to a 2003 burglary conviction and prison sentence. At the age of 7, Young was struck by a vehicle while riding his bicycle at the corner of Tidewater and Buxley, streets in his Houston neighborhood. The accident nearly killed him, leaving him hospitalized for months after the bicycle's handle bar went into his stomach. Today, he credits this event for making him into a "tougher" individual. Young attended Dick Dowling Middle School in Hiram Clarke. Some of Young's friends were a part of the "Hiram Clarke Boys," a local street gang; many of those friends died as a result of their activities.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story...
DSM Local

Ankeny, IA

#33 Sep 21, 2012
Trolls wrote:
<quoted text>I agree about the QB situation in AZ. They have won because of their defense, not their QB play. Although Kolb and Skelton seemed to not mess up enough to keep their team in it. I just don't think there's really a better option out there, unless they are willing to give something up in a trade. Maybe they could get Tavaris Jackson? lol
Fair enough, we'll see how "real" they are when they play the vikings. If I were head coach though I would try and steal a developmental QB, Ryan Mallet, Joe Webb, Cousins (from redskins), etc. and then start them and see out it works. If it fails DRAFT time, if it works I know where I am now. That Kolb trade was stupid and one should not pay more than a 5th for any of these QB's, except for mallet maybe a 4th

Since: Apr 12

Hugo, MN

#34 Sep 21, 2012
Seattle Slew wrote:
<quoted text>
I love that he is suing his former "financial advisor". Do you really need someone to tell you not to spend $5000 a week at the Cheesecake Factory?
Vince Young spent $5k per week at Cheesecake Factory and other tales of how to go broke
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gameo...

Since: Apr 12

Hugo, MN

#35 Sep 21, 2012
Other amazing, hard-to-believe rumors: Young once spent $6,000 in a single sitting at T.G.I. Fridays, he paid a kid $200 to carry his luggage at the airport and he'd do $600 shots of Louis XIII de Remy Martin at Morton's after games. It's the last one that's most appalling. Shooting, rather than sipping, a fine cognac is like putting ketchup on Kobe beef. Or, more appropriately, spending $6,000 at T.G.I. Friday's.

Since: Apr 12

Hugo, MN

#36 Sep 21, 2012
DSM Local wrote:
<quoted text>
Fair enough, we'll see how "real" they are when they play the vikings. If I were head coach though I would try and steal a developmental QB, Ryan Mallet, Joe Webb, Cousins (from redskins), etc. and then start them and see out it works. If it fails DRAFT time, if it works I know where I am now. That Kolb trade was stupid and one should not pay more than a 5th for any of these QB's, except for mallet maybe a 4th
LOL, they are more "real" than the Vikings. The only test the Vikes will provide the Cards, is if the Cards can beat teams they SHOULD beat. I love my Vikes, but we have 1 or 2 more years to go until we can really do much.
DSM Local

Ankeny, IA

#37 Sep 21, 2012
Trolls wrote:
<quoted text>LOL, they are more "real" than the Vikings. The only test the Vikes will provide the Cards, is if the Cards can beat teams they SHOULD beat. I love my Vikes, but we have 1 or 2 more years to go until we can really do much.
my point was we'd see them play more so than watch highlights on espn
CRASSUS

Neenah, WI

#38 Sep 21, 2012
DSM Local wrote:
<quoted text>
my point was we'd see them play more so than watch highlights on espn
The Cardinals have a great team and a great coach. A great team can overcome a mediocre quarterback. Is Alex Smith a good quarterback all of a sudden?
CRASSUS

Neenah, WI

#39 Sep 21, 2012
DSM Local wrote:
<quoted text>
I think he sucked with the 2nd team bills and was cut
I'm just sayning the QB situation is very bad in Arizona and they are putting themselves out of contention of Barkley
There's a reason successful quarterbacks are white. Can you figure it out?
DSM Local

Ankeny, IA

#40 Sep 21, 2012
CRASSUS wrote:
<quoted text>The Cardinals have a great team and a great coach. A great team can overcome a mediocre quarterback. Is Alex Smith a good quarterback all of a sudden?
Far better than what you have, I would say Alex Smith is a above average QB, you have what a average at best QB. Alex Smith has had a different coach every year till last. Alex Smith also has tons of potential something kolb,skelton do not.

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