Twin City Janitors to Strike On Sunday

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Looks like union is BETTERING YOURSELF !!!!!

Most of the retail store cleaners are paid $8 to $8.50 per hour, Payne said. For janitors represented by the SEIU working in downtown locations, the starting pay is near $13.50 per hour, he said.

Good for them, it's a START !!!
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1.Unions lead to higher prices for consumers since companies must pay more for wages & benefits, which are then passed on to customers.
2.Unions make the country less competitive since non-unionized companies in India, China, Taiwan, etc. can pay workers far less and therefore charge less and/or assign more workers per unit of product.
3.Unions often prevent more qualified workers from getting the jobs. Less proficient workers are often protected from layoffs or firing; thus, new positions open less frequently.
4.Society and companies are often held hostage to the essential services of certain unions (e.g. teachers, police, construction workers, air traffic controllers, etc.); thus, negotiation becomes less about fairness to workers than about companies meeting the demands of union extortion.
5.The State and Federal labor/discrimination laws, the threats of lawsuits, and the avoidance of poor publicity all make unions largely unnecessary nowadays.
6.Unions lead to job losses to India, China, and other overseas companies. Non-union shops have a major cost advantage in hiring. Plus, in unionized companies, owners & managers may simply choose not to hire at all since the cost of maintaining or laying off a new employee is too great.
7.Unions have become a source of political power and corruption. Since unions can offer a large block of voters, politicians will often curry favor from unions and screw over the taxpayers. Consequently, union representatives concentrate on helping their favorite politicians and political party rather than doing what's best for the members.
8.It prevents the firing of clearly incompetent workers. Several poorly-performing teachers on tenure as well as most government workers are clear examples.
9.Unions lead to less productivity and job motivation since pay levels are usually determined by seniority rather than performance. The lack of incentives such as increased pay or promotion, as well as the lesser threat of losing their jobs, leads to workers putting out less effort than they otherwise would.
10.It creates an "us" vs. "them" hostility between ownership and workers.
11.Unions focus on the needs of the members at the expense of non-union members & society, as evidenced by labor unrest all over the world as governments try to rein in unsustainable spending.
12.For many types of jobs, union membership is required for the position, along with substantial cash dues on a regular basis. This is inherently anti-freedom.
13.It decreases the flexibility of both employee and employer in negotiating wages, benefits, and other items. Especially with the technological advances of today and multi-working families, employees often want to customize work hours & location, fringe benefits (e.g. more vacation time, no health insurance), and pay (e.g. per hour or per project vs. salaried). Unions tie the hands of both employee and employer in such situations.
14.Unions have in the past had ties with organized crime or communist organizations, which are fundamentally trying to harm the nation's free market system.
15.Unions reduce the investment dollars that are put into a company since investors are less willing to take on the risks of work stoppages, higher costs, decreased management flexibility, etc.
16.All employees have one bargaining chip that never requires a union--they can quit and go work somewhere else.
If we look at just number 2,(shit) you want Americans to work 3rd world wages/jobs ??? Guess, your fellow Americans should be starving 3rd world workers, right ??? Sorry pal, you're a lackey !!
Bushwhacker

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Bushwhacker wrote:
<quoted text>If we look at just number 2,(shit) you want Americans to work 3rd world wages/jobs ??? Guess, your fellow Americans should be starving 3rd world workers, right ??? Sorry pal, you're a lackey !!
OMG! Slewsie dear. You said a bad word. They don't allow that on Topix. Especially from an employee holding a position as important as the Spell Check Queen. You better apologize before you get fired again.
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Con,

Can I introduce you to crunchy, she's looking for a "man" like you !!! Have FUN bois !! Bunch of idiots !!

LMAOROTFU~!
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Smart Liberal wrote:
Just say "NO!" to jobs.
Just say "YES!" to union bosses.
The Twin City SEIU janitors are holding steady with their demands for a 30% to 40% wage increase and are poised & ready to walk out on Sunday.
Go for it! Strike now - don't wait until Sunday.
https://www.facebook.com/seiu26
Ha! Fire 'em all and hire some teenagers or thugs coming out of prison to do the same job for $7.50 and next to no benefits. Pay raise for THAT job, really! What a leftist mindset
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Looks like union is BETTERING YOURSELF !!!!!

Most of the retail store cleaners are paid $8 to $8.50 per hour, Payne said. For janitors represented by the SEIU working in downtown locations, the starting pay is near $13.50 per hour, he said.

Good for them, it's a START !!!
Comrade Slew

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Bushwhacked wrote:
Looks like union is BETTERING YOURSELF !!!!!
Most of the retail store cleaners are paid $8 to $8.50 per hour, Payne said. For janitors represented by the SEIU working in downtown locations, the starting pay is near $13.50 per hour, he said.
Good for them, it's a START !!!
No! they need SIX-figure pay

HAIL OBAMA!!!
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Blather, by the resident poopy moron teabaggger.
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Comrade Slew wrote:
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No! they need SIX-figure pay
HAIL OBAMA!!!
You just wrote democrats want to keep people down and LOOK, you want to keep people down ????
Comrade Slew

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<quoted text>You just wrote democrats want to keep people down and LOOK, you want to keep people down ????
Comrade ALL must have six figure pay!
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All for the communist party no Rights here

HAHAHAHAHAHA red rule forever!!!!

Hail OBAMA!!!

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Tomorrow is the big day.

Go for it SEIU brothers and sisters. Show those evil management types that you will not fold.

Just like your brethren up in Fargo. After all, it worked out so well for them.

41% pay raise or strike!
Lustige Blater

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What I need pay, Stalin don't send checks no more.

Eastern Orthodox Church good times
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Looks like union is BETTERING YOURSELF !!!!!

Most of the retail store cleaners are paid $8 to $8.50 per hour, Payne said. For janitors represented by the SEIU working in downtown locations, the starting pay is near $13.50 per hour, he said.

Good for them, it's a START !!!
Bushwhackers Uncle Daddy

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Bushwhacked wrote:
Blather, by the resident poopy moron teabaggger.
Fly Maggots,

(Uncle Daddy has apologized but it does no good, answer this please)

Why are you here?

Not "here" as in On Topix being an iddiiot 16/7 365, but why are you here on this Astral Plane?

Have you ever even asked yourself why you choose to stay such a Despicable Human Being?

If you have, what answer did you give yourself that has kept you from acknowledging the waste of oxygen that you are.....What keeps you from going to the light.

You gotta be miserable, the Shaat you spew reveals what you are to all the are cursed to cross your path. It must in some way register with you someplace in that sick mind that you are irreparably damaged and there is no redemption here on Earth.

Nothing, That is what you are nothing!

At least a Boil on someones azz serves a purpose, it lets the person know that there is a problem. You are a Boil on the azz of Humanity, but we all know what the problem is.....EXCEPT YOU!
Iowan

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Comrade Slew wrote:
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Comrade ALL must have six figure pay!
That would be nice, but I think the 41% pay raise is more managable.
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Starting wage $8.50 per hour. 41% increase is $3.49 for a total of $11.99 per hour.$3.49 spread over what was it? 5 years?$.70 per year?

Why do wingers love the working poor? So they can complain about food stamps and obamaphones I guess.
Bushwhackers Uncle Daddy

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Rob wrote:
Starting wage $8.50 per hour. 41% increase is $3.49 for a total of $11.99 per hour.$3.49 spread over what was it? 5 years?$.70 per year?
Why do wingers love the working poor? So they can complain about food stamps and obamaphones I guess.
Rocket Scientist,

Because it is a given that you are an Ignorant Sheeple unable to access the Logic the Most Humans can access, let me point something out for you.
$11.49 is NOT a Living Wage.

I know, I know, your Messiah's Handlers have sold you Sheeple on the Bullshaat, but that does not excuse YOUR choice to be stupid!

As a Dependent that grovels at the Government Trough, why do you choose to spew the Kool Aid Talking Pionts? The Gruel will be put in your trough, even if you did not choose to be the problem in America as an ignoramus blathering the BS.

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Rob wrote:
Starting wage $8.50 per hour. 41% increase is $3.49 for a total of $11.99 per hour.$3.49 spread over what was it? 5 years?$.70 per year?
Why do wingers love the working poor? So they can complain about food stamps and obamaphones I guess.
Dumbsh*t.

Your buddy the Sludge said that the STARTING pay was $13.50. Throw a 41% raise on that and the STARTING pay will be pushing $20 per hour.

While the Sludge did not say it, there is not a union contract I have ever seen that includes the cost of benefits in with the pay that is publicized.

That would take the total payment up to the $25 per hour range. For an unskilled and uneducated janitor.

You might not have a problem with that number, but most normal people would say that is excessive in the current economic climate.

So...we are back to...Strike! Come on SEIU union bosses, call that strike. Show the whole world how loyal you membership is. You can have them walking those picket lines and smiling about not getting a paycheck, can't you?

Those union members will make $25 an hour or starve. You will show them.
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Smart Liberal wrote:
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Dumbsh*t.
Your buddy the Sludge said that the STARTING pay was $13.50. Throw a 41% raise on that and the STARTING pay will be pushing $20 per hour.
While the Sludge did not say it, there is not a union contract I have ever seen that includes the cost of benefits in with the pay that is publicized.
That would take the total payment up to the $25 per hour range. For an unskilled and uneducated janitor.
You might not have a problem with that number, but most normal people would say that is excessive in the current economic climate.
So...we are back to...Strike! Come on SEIU union bosses, call that strike. Show the whole world how loyal you membership is. You can have them walking those picket lines and smiling about not getting a paycheck, can't you?
Those union members will make $25 an hour or starve. You will show them.
Too bad, the "requested" raise is over 5 years, right liar ??? Also too bad, you can't do their job and have no business commenting, LOSER !

Hey, YOU said they're getting a raise, you said NOTHING about hours being cut, you lying POS !!!

"It's a small sacrifice for a bigger victory in the future," Estrada said in Spanish. "What they're offering is a joke. They're proposing to set us back 15 years."

He and more than 1,000 janitors' full-time jobs could be reduced to part time, cutting benefits and health insurance that he, his wife, and his 7- and 5-year-old daughters depend on. "They've left us with no other choice," he said. "We deserve more."

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