Two charged in death of Onamia teen found burned

Authorities have charged two Onamia, Minn.-area men with murder in the second degree in connection with the death of an Onamia teenager. Full Story
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Elko, MN

#1 Jul 28, 2010
Some seem destined for prison from the start. Hope these two punks enjoy wearing orange. Life for a life seems reasonable since we have no death penalty.
huh

Saint Paul, MN

#2 Jul 28, 2010
Are both these hillbilly fuksticks white? If they are they can add hate crimes to the list. It really does seem like BS that we have to house people forever versus killing them when we have decided that a)their crime is so heinous it deserves it or b)they are so unstable we can never let them out. Effing ridiculous!
hmm

Austin, MN

#3 Jul 28, 2010
seems like we would all be better off if all 3 of them never came out of the woods. i know its harsh but they all have such wonderful records. so now we will have to pay for these 2 idiots well being for the next 20 years.

just wonderful.
Hawkshaw

Saint Paul, MN

#5 Jul 28, 2010
huh wrote:
Are both these hillbilly fuksticks white? If they are they can add hate crimes to the list. It really does seem like BS that we have to house people forever versus killing them when we have decided that a)their crime is so heinous it deserves it or b)they are so unstable we can never let them out. Effing ridiculous!
...and why shouldn't your statement be considered racist?

“Get RIGHT or be left”

Since: Nov 07

www.dreamindemon.com

#6 Jul 28, 2010
Don't know what color they are. Color is a non-issue in crime.

Based on the charges, if they are found guilty, I say let them join their friend in the afterlife.

One down, two to go.

Public execution.

Since: Jun 09

Lincoln, NE

#7 Jul 28, 2010
so cool wrote:
So how come there's not as many comments on here compared to black gangster kids that killed a boy with a shovel and threw him in a pond? Where's the race card here? lemme start one....stupid white kids think they're so cool, the government should take their assistance away and eliminate that gene pool.
At least one of the names of the perpetrators is Native American. Again, the one calling everyone else racist is the one bringing up race.
fred

Tomah, WI

#8 Jul 28, 2010
How can one determine Native American ethnicity from the names Boyd and Beaulieu?

Since: Jun 09

Lincoln, NE

#10 Jul 28, 2010
fred wrote:
How can one determine Native American ethnicity from the names Boyd and Beaulieu?
Beaulieu is a well known Native name on the reservation. Their pictures are on the Brainerd Dispatch website. They are both Native. Not that race has anything with it, but while everyone tried to turn it into a white issue to justify another brutal murder, just thought I'd bring that up.
Oilbama

Minneapolis, MN

#11 Jul 28, 2010
Who cares what color/race they are? There are idiot thugs of every color. What always seems to pop up is a long criminal history, yet they are never locked up until they kill someone. Lock them up and throw away the key. Prayers to the family of this young man.
Hawkshaw

Saint Paul, MN

#12 Jul 28, 2010
The Real Whatever wrote:
<quoted text>
Beaulieu is a well known Native name on the reservation. Their pictures are on the Brainerd Dispatch website. They are both Native. Not that race has anything with it, but while everyone tried to turn it into a white issue to justify another brutal murder, just thought I'd bring that up.
Remember when authorities were looking for the would-be time square bomber? Even the media was hoping it was the actions of a "white guy" so they wouldn't have breach political correctness speech.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#13 Jul 28, 2010
The victim and both alleged killers are Native. All three have multiple counts of violent crimes on their police records. The SPPP article is very limited in their coverage of this story. The Brainerd Dispatch has an article with much more information. Before anyone feels too sorry for this victim, you may want to read that article.

Since: Jul 10

Atwater, MN

#15 Jul 28, 2010
Great, just great. One more boondoggle of the judicial system. Both have extensive records and they are out walking the streets and the woods???? Firing squad I say.
Jerry

Marshall, MN

#16 Jul 28, 2010
one dead, two in prison. Three menaces taken out of civilized society.
Tony Rocky Horror

Cottage Grove, MN

#19 Jul 28, 2010
huh wrote:
Are both these hillbilly fuksticks white? If they are they can add hate crimes to the list. It really does seem like BS that we have to house people forever versus killing them when we have decided that a)their crime is so heinous it deserves it or b)they are so unstable we can never let them out. Effing ridiculous!
Who cares what race they are and why should there be a greater penalty if they are white and the victim is not? I hope they go away for a long time if not forever. Yeah killing them wouldn't be so bad.
gauffsa

Minneapolis, MN

#20 Jul 28, 2010
I definitely believe there are people who are from the start, of a much lower moral standard than is good for society. I also believe there are people who, through life circumstances, personal choices, and outside influences, are rendered beyond rehabilitation. However, even then, society as an "innocent bystander" must recognize that justice is not--should not--be served by brutality.

I realize that none of these men were angels and I even agree that over all, it is good to see three repeat troublemakers off the street. Relief from the potential of these three to do additional harm in society is understandable--but to be GLAD?! When we look upon this crime with a cold heart ("He had it coming...") and condone these violent measures as a solution we are truly only a step away from being any better.

Do keep in mind that these three men had families and others whose innocent hearts are broken and lives are deeply affected by this. Remember as well that the loss of three potentially productive members of society DOES affect us all.

My heart goes out to the three men's families, their community, and the three men who somehow lost their way.

“Get RIGHT or be left”

Since: Nov 07

www.dreamindemon.com

#21 Jul 28, 2010
gauffsa wrote:
I definitely believe there are people who are from the start, of a much lower moral standard than is good for society. I also believe there are people who, through life circumstances, personal choices, and outside influences, are rendered beyond rehabilitation. However, even then, society as an "innocent bystander" must recognize that justice is not--should not--be served by brutality.
I realize that none of these men were angels and I even agree that over all, it is good to see three repeat troublemakers off the street. Relief from the potential of these three to do additional harm in society is understandable--but to be GLAD?! When we look upon this crime with a cold heart ("He had it coming...") and condone these violent measures as a solution we are truly only a step away from being any better.
Do keep in mind that these three men had families and others whose innocent hearts are broken and lives are deeply affected by this. Remember as well that the loss of three potentially productive members of society DOES affect us all.
My heart goes out to the three men's families, their community, and the three men who somehow lost their way.
You seem like a nice person. Deluded, but nice.

". Remember as well that the loss of three potentially productive members of society DOES affect us all."

There was nothing "productive" in certainly two if not all three of these men.

No need for violence or brutality.

Merely hook up an IV. Put them the sleep. Snip the other end of the IV line and let them bleed out while asleep.

Problem solved for everyone, including their families.

Or are you like other liberals on here that think these guys were "just getting ready to turn their lives around"?
husker red

Concord, CA

#22 Jul 28, 2010
for all you small minded idiots in the North, the article brought up race in making reference to the deceased fellow and neglected to mention the others were native as well. Thus, those of you who live on such racism can all take the focus off of what really happened by argueing about something totally off base.
small town

Minneapolis, MN

#23 Jul 28, 2010
fred wrote:
How can one determine Native American ethnicity from the names Boyd and Beaulieu?
Easy... we grew up there
gauffsa

Minneapolis, MN

#25 Jul 29, 2010
Jeff T in MPLS wrote:
<quoted text>
You seem like a nice person. Deluded, but nice.
". Remember as well that the loss of three potentially productive members of society DOES affect us all."
There was nothing "productive" in certainly two if not all three of these men.
No need for violence or brutality.
Merely hook up an IV. Put them the sleep. Snip the other end of the IV line and let them bleed out while asleep.
Problem solved for everyone, including their families.
Or are you like other liberals on here that think these guys were "just getting ready to turn their lives around"?
Jeff:

LOL Thanks, I try (to be nice)! Sometimes it definitely takes more effort than others!

Please let me clarify a few things on my original post.

"Remember...loss of three potentially productive members..." Note, the ***"potentially."*** Obviously, these three men missed the mark (which was my point). That loss DOES affect society as a whole because what we do does not occur in a vacuum and something like this has very real and far-reaching consequences (families that suffer, costs of law enforcement and jail time, the psychological aspect of such a crime on the moral "morale" of our society, etc.).

As for "violence," I don't mean in action only. I believe we can be violent in our thoughts and in our mentality. When we believe that violence is EVER a good way to resolve things, we open ourselves to it. As I formerly said, though it is normal to feel relief that these three are not running rampant in society, what happened to the one man should also be viewed as wrong. Sure, there are certainly instances that violence is necessary, but I hardly think this was one of them.

To believe that this man "got what he deserved" is really justifying the violence he suffered. By thinking that way, we are condoning it, and it subconsciously leaves us believing that violence is a GOOD thing in "certain situations." Then the danger comes with each individual's interpretation of what constitutes that "situation." Suddenly, you have people who believe not only criminals deserve violence, but say, someone who said something they didn't like, or made them feel threatened in some way. It opens the doors to situations where a more peaceful and safe solution could have been had, had there been no justification for violence felt.

As I also formerly stated, I readily recognize that there are "bad apples," people who were either "born that way," or became so by life's circumstances. I believe that in the end, we each have control over our own actions and that we are responsible for them. Perhaps these men were as such and they would have been a menace to society for the rest of their lives. I don't pretend to know which way it would go. However, I do know that, again, what happened to the one man was wholly unnecessary.

Incidently, I do believe in the death penalty--which is part of the reason I do NOT feel happy about the one man's fate. I think an execution should be carried out in only certain cases (certifiably beyond rehab and repeat offender) and it should be carried out as humanely as possible. Being beaten to death hardly fits that bill.

Violence begets violence, be it in thought then it isn't far from action. It is hardly ever the necessary answer and never a great one. If finding tragedy in the man's fate--in all three, really--and recognizing the effects it has on society as a makes me a "liberal," then I wear that label proudly.

“Obamacs at it's finest!”

Since: Mar 09

Anytown, Minnesota........

#26 Jul 29, 2010
life on and off the rez up in that ara is dangerous to say the very least. If you travel that area or frequent the casino at Mille Lacs, well be careful, especially if you are Causcasian. I am speaking truth so do NOT give me any of this racist crap....this is FACT, has been for many years.....This is a dangerous area. I spend plenty of time in the area, have relatives up there and well, again, always be aware of your surroundings , especailly if out past dark......I'm just sayin... I speak from experience.

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