Battleground Arizona: New immigration law to take effect

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The Maricopa County sheriff s office is prepared to house up to 100 suspected illegal immigrants in an existing complex of military surplus tents outside the county jail.
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libtards

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Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) of 1952 (also known as the McCarran-Walter Act)

"I believe that this nation is the last hope of Western civilization and if this oasis of the world shall be overrun, perverted, contaminated or destroyed, then the last flickering light of humanity will be extinguished. I take no issue with those who would praise the contributions which have been made to our society by people of many races, of varied creeds and colors. America is indeed a joining together of many streams which go to form a mighty river which we call the American way. However, we have in the United States today hard-core, indigestible blocs which have not become integrated into the American way of life, but which, on the contrary are its deadly enemies. Today, as never before, untold millions are storming our gates for admission and those gates are cracking under the strain. The solution of the problems of Europe and Asia will not come through a transplanting of those problems en masse to the United States.... I do not intend to become prophetic, but if the enemies of this legislation succeed in riddling it to pieces, or in amending it beyond recognition, they will have contributed more to promote this nation's downfall than any other group since we achieved our independence as a nation." (Senator Pat McCarran D-Nevada, Cong. Rec., March 2, 1953, p. 1518.)
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Rocky:

You are right but you did not go far enough.

This is not about immigration. It is about illegals.

Those who hire illegals ought to be in jail. Instead their money persuades our Congress differently.

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"speaking poor English, looking nervous or traveling in an overcrowded vehicle."

A lot of the protest is NOT about immigration status but, rather, the means by which officers can potentially profile subjects. According to the article, the above criteria are some that might be indicative of illegal status. Just read the first one and review this bulletin board. Enough said there.

Have you ever driven on any major roads frequented by teenagers on a Friday night? Enough said there.
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Obama victory took root in Kennedy-inspired Immigration Act (By Peter S. Canellos)

Before the act, immigration visas were apportioned based on the demographic breakdown that existed at the time of the 1920 Census - meaning that there were few if any limits on immigrants from Western and Northern Europe, but strict quotas on those from elsewhere.

The belief that the United States should remain a nation of European lineage was openly discussed when immigration laws were revisited in 1952. The resulting bill, the McCarran-Walter Act, was notorious for giving the State Department the right to exclude visitors for ideological reasons, meaning that a raft of left-wing artists and writers - including Chilean poet Pablo Neruda, British novelist Graham Greene - and scores of others were denied visas. But it also had the effect of maintaining the 1920s-era notion of the United States as a white nation.(Congress imposed the bill over President Truman's veto.)

A decade later, attitudes were changing, and President Kennedy proposed a new immigration structure that would no longer be based on national origins. After Kennedy's assassination, his brother Ted took up the fight, pushing the Johnson administration to go even further than it wanted in evening the playing field. Though Lyndon Johnson, in signing the bill, tried to reassure opponents that it wouldn't do much to change the balance of immigration, its impact was dramatic.

In the 1950s, 53 percent of all immigrants were Europeans and just 6 percent were Asians; by the 1990s, just 16 percent were Europeans and 31 percent were Asians. The percentages of Latino and African immigrants also jumped significantly.

Simon Rosenberg, president of the liberal think tank NDN, formerly the New Democrat Network, calls the Immigration Act of 1965 "the most important piece of legislation that no one's ever heard of," and said it "set America on a very different demographic course than the previous 300 years."

By adding so many Asians, Latinos, and African immigrants, Rosenberg says, the act changed the racial narrative in America from one of oppression - the white-black divide dating to slavery - to one of diversity. That change was strongly echoed in the Obama campaign, which emphasized the candidate's mixed-race background as making him representative of a new generation of Americans.

That generation has its roots in the Immigration Act of 1965, and the act had its roots in the Kennedys. Obamalot may be the modern reflection of JFK's New Frontier, after all.
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2008/arti...

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What a sad, sad day. Two days before the law goes into effect, they SCRAMBLE to train people (Border Patrol agents get YEARS of training, and it's still difficult), and clear out the jails to make room. In other words, let real crimnals go free, with a MN like "slap on the wrist".

I'm all for border enforcement, but AZ is trying to fix a complicated issue with a lot of grey area with a law that is much too simplistic. Put people in jail for CRIMES. I love the fact that criminals in Maricopa county have to live outside and wear pink and eat 2 meals a day. I LOVE that stance on crime. But I DON'T love the fact that Maricopa county can't even keep up on their warrant lists and cant track down people wanted for assault, drug dealing, and DWIs because they're too busy trying to find illegals.

How exactly is THAT helping anyone?
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"It's defiance, to see if they want to come and arrest those people," said Pablo Alvarado, the executive director of the NDLON. "We dare them to come and ask."...why don't you pose that situation to Joe Arpaio and you will end up in jail.

Illegal is illegal. Short and simple.
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Honest wrote:
Gov. Jan Brewer looks like the hateful witch that she is.
This law is about bigotry pure and simple.
Bigot written and bigot supported.
Shame on AZ
your a fool
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Used to be Really wrote:
What a sad, sad day. Two days before the law goes into effect, they SCRAMBLE to train people (Border Patrol agents get YEARS of training, and it's still difficult), and clear out the jails to make room. In other words, let real crimnals go free, with a MN like "slap on the wrist".
I'm all for border enforcement, but AZ is trying to fix a complicated issue with a lot of grey area with a law that is much too simplistic. Put people in jail for CRIMES. I love the fact that criminals in Maricopa county have to live outside and wear pink and eat 2 meals a day. I LOVE that stance on crime. But I DON'T love the fact that Maricopa county can't even keep up on their warrant lists and cant track down people wanted for assault, drug dealing, and DWIs because they're too busy trying to find illegals.
How exactly is THAT helping anyone?
The article says that LEOs "wrapped up training this week" and watched a DVD released "this month". Where does it say anyone is "scrambling" two days before the law takes effect?

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Go Arizona go!!! Good job and Minnesota and every state in the union should have the guts and courage to be an American and do the same thing!
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"speaking poor English, looking nervous or traveling in an overcrowded vehicle."
A lot of the protest is NOT about immigration status but, rather, the means by which officers can potentially profile subjects. According to the article, the above criteria are some that might be indicative of illegal status. Just read the first one and review this bulletin board. Enough said there.
Have you ever driven on any major roads frequented by teenagers on a Friday night? Enough said there.
Did you read the law? Did any of the protestors? We know the dem politicians didn't, they were honest enough to admit it at least. The word "solely" would be eliminated from the sentence "A law enforcement official or agency … may not solely consider race, color or national origin" in establishing reasonable suspicion that someone is in the country illegally.

Bill sponsor Sen. Russell Pearce, R-Mesa, said the intent is to clarify that "this bill prohibits racial profiling in any form." Bill opponents had argued that the word "solely" allowed officers to base their reasonable suspicion on race and color as long as it wasn't just one of them.

Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/election/azelec...
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rocky wrote:
GW Bush only allowed illegals to do jobs Americans did not want. He helped millions of illegals enter America. Another failed Bush policy another way Bush destroyed America. Why is Bush been convicted of war crimes? He has killed more good people than Hitler.
What a laugh. I was wondering how long it would take for some imbecile to blame Bush for something. Here is a news flash for you idiot: BUSH ISNT THE PRESIDENT ANY LONGER!!!! Obama, NOT BUSH and his criminal enterprise are pushing the issue. Pull your head out of your rectum and deal with today. Killed more people than Hitler? Really? Do you understand that when a liberal idiot like yourself makes such a stupid comment that even most liberals are wincing in pain at the immense foolsihness of your comment. Take a deep, deep breath and repeat after me, George Bush is not longer president, George Bush is no longer president......
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Most of the writers profess to be Republicans, based on the comments about Democrats and Liberals. The majority of Republicans claim to be Christians. It is amazing that the biblical teachings are so soon forgotten when it comes to immigration. Throughout the bible there are multiple scriptures about loving and how to treat your neighbor. Where is the compassion that is taught for the poor? May the Lord watch over and protect the immigrants seeking a better life for their families.
The bible also teaches to love thy neighbor in ways that you post, but it also says to do to others as they would do unto you. This subject is based on "illegal" which people like you just can't seem to understand. These individuals are breaking our laws. How in "Gods" name can you condone this. This country is based on "We the People", citizens who live by our laws and "legally" abide by those laws. You my friend are very wrong.

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Mr. Obama is our President and it is his responsibility to set the tone for how we want our borders managed, not the State of Arizona.

We can only hope that the Federal Government will prevail in this very important case. If not, then look for all of the states to set their own laws and policies on everything that the Feds ought to be doing. This could be a very dangerous precedent to set.
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Just so everyone remembers, The U.S. seized Arizona, New Mexico, California & parts of other states during the Mexican War, 1846- 1848. It was armed robbery on a vast scale. Now when Mexicans want to come to what is rightfully their land, they are hassled by the law.
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Honest wrote:
Gov. Jan Brewer looks like the hateful witch that she is.
This law is about bigotry pure and simple.
Bigot written and bigot supported.
Shame on AZ
Where you at? I have an extra $0.50 to help you get a clue.
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Honest wrote:
Gov. Jan Brewer looks like the hateful witch that she is.
This law is about bigotry pure and simple.
Bigot written and bigot supported.
Shame on AZ
Your are a mean and hafeful person. Your judging someone by there looks. I think you should really take a hard look at the words you wrote and think about how awful they sound. You actually a hypocrite.
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One thing I've noticed about these wonderful immigrants from Mexico and Somalia, the places they move into soon look just like whatever craphole they came from.
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rocky wrote:
Please show me one criminal justice system that does not racial profile/ Wisconsin has the most bigot state as far as that goes as the records show. For any government official or employee to comment on the Arizona law is like jeff daimler complaining about a murderer. Clean your oun mess up before you complain about Arizona.
So...I guess you complaining about Wisconsin's judicial system, doesn't make you a government employee--nor an employee (in general). Here, rocky; I'm going to help you with your education; before you complain about Arizona (seems that a MAJORITY of people are COMPLIMENTING Arizona--rather than COMPLAINING about Arizona's new immigration law) maybe you could direct your complaints to Wisconsin...you know..."Act Locally, Think Globally" stuff. Maybe you should "clean up you own mess" before complaining about Arizona (spell check would also help. Also, it seems that jeff daimler was never a fussy eater--he never complained about left-overs in the refrigerator.
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Jack Shepard for Congress wrote:
By the other comments here I sadly see that there is very much Hate and an extreme lack of knowledge of immigration reform in Minneosta. Please learn the facts! The reality of what is going on. Did not Jesus teach us to Love, a person who Hates I say will never go to Heaven. It is evil to hate when you can love and spread peace and happiness. Forgive and Repent. That is why the world is such a mess because it is so easy to hate what you do not understand. www.jackshepardforcongress.com
Instead of juding it as nuts and clueless I am just going to tell you. Your absolutely nuts. Your absolutely clueless. Your ignorant and niave. You should run for congress in Venezuela and make small talk with hugo chavez.
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Walter wrote:
I'd be happy if we just mirrored Mexico's immigration policy. Mexico has a single, streamlined law that ensures that foreign visitors and immigrants are:
* in the country legally;
* have the means to sustain themselves economically;
* not destined to be burdens on society;
* of economic and social benefit to society;
* of good character and have no criminal records; and
* contributors to the general well-being of the nation.
The law also ensures that:
* immigration authorities have a record of each foreign visitor;
* foreign visitors do not violate their visa status;
* foreign visitors are banned from interfering in the country’s internal politics;
* foreign visitors who enter under false pretenses are imprisoned or deported;
* foreign visitors violating the terms of their entry are imprisoned or deported;
* those who aid in illegal immigration will be sent to prison.
Wow, what a novel concept - a national government using logic for creation of an immigration policy. Perhaps our government should take a cue for our friends to the South.

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