Duluth argues free speech doesn't apply at holiday lights display Bentleyville

Dec 18, 2011 Full story: TwinCities 68

First Amendment rights don't apply at a bayfront Christmas attraction, the city of Duluth argued in an objection filed Friday in federal court.

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CRASSUS

Green Bay, WI

#1 Dec 18, 2011
What's up with Duluth? Is this city overrun with liberal nut jobs?
Wade Gustafson

Saint Paul, MN

#2 Dec 18, 2011
What a mediocre story. What is Bentleyville? A good news story answers who, what, where, why, and sometimes how. This story falls far short of answering those points.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#3 Dec 18, 2011
Wade Gustafson wrote:
What a mediocre story. What is Bentleyville? A good news story answers who, what, where, why, and sometimes how. This story falls far short of answering those points.
Bentlyville is the company that puts up and/or the name of the huge christmas display on the bayfront area grounds.

Since: Jul 08

Saint Paul, MN

#4 Dec 18, 2011
those evil lights are offending the people.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#5 Dec 18, 2011
jw in the grove wrote:
those evil lights are offending the people.
Seems the guys preaching there were...
AntiMelting

United States

#6 Dec 18, 2011
Duluth does have a lot of imported goods.

Since: Jul 08

Saint Paul, MN

#7 Dec 18, 2011
we dont like anyone offended, even if the vast majority like the lites , there is always one scrooge.
Wade Gustafson

Saint Paul, MN

#8 Dec 18, 2011
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Bentlyville is the company that puts up and/or the name of the huge christmas display on the bayfront area grounds.
I knew that because I looked it up. A reader of the story should not have to do that.
Walter

Minneapolis, MN

#9 Dec 18, 2011
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Seems the guys preaching there were...
Is it public property?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#10 Dec 18, 2011
Walter wrote:
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Is it public property?
yes, but I believe bentlyville rents it or leases it for the season.
Going Forward

Maple Plain, MN

#11 Dec 18, 2011
Walter wrote:
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Is it public property?
IF displays of anything opposed by anyone isn't accepted on public property then NOTHING, no protests or demonstrations, should be allowed on public property. Public property includes public streets, schools, lakes, state parks and forests, air ports, LRT property, historical property, Government buildings, etc.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#12 Dec 18, 2011
Going Forward wrote:
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IF displays of anything opposed by anyone isn't accepted on public property then NOTHING, no protests or demonstrations, should be allowed on public property. Public property includes public streets, schools, lakes, state parks and forests, air ports, LRT property, historical property, Government buildings, etc.
It's not the displays that bugged people, just the preachers. Imagine that...
sad

Minneapolis, MN

#13 Dec 18, 2011
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>It's not the displays that bugged people, just the preachers. Imagine that...
I just don't like to be preached at on public property. They've sprayed OWSers for less.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#14 Dec 18, 2011
sad wrote:
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I just don't like to be preached at on public property. They've sprayed OWSers for less.
yes, there are places you can go to pay and be preached at, if you're into that sort of thing...
Going Forward

Plymouth, MN

#15 Dec 18, 2011
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>It's not the displays that bugged people, just the preachers. Imagine that...
In Richmond Va it's common for preachers to set up shop on a street corner spouting their message. I'm sure there are other cities this occurs in. It becomes part of their culture. Don't like it don't listen.

Free Country.
Going Forward

Plymouth, MN

#17 Dec 18, 2011
icouldusesomehel p wrote:
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And if it's hard core Islam in front of your Synagogue? That OK with you?
As difficult as it might be we either live in a free country or we don't.

I suspect your example MIGHT be addressed as harrassment IF conflict results and a restraining order issued. Much like the reverse of the situation.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#19 Dec 18, 2011
Going Forward wrote:
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In Richmond Va it's common for preachers to set up shop on a street corner spouting their message. I'm sure there are other cities this occurs in. It becomes part of their culture. Don't like it don't listen.
Free Country.
Glad i don't live in Richmond, VA.(for many reasons).

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#20 Dec 18, 2011
icouldusesomehel p wrote:
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I think I agree with you. I hate preaching anywhere but INSIDE a religious institution. Unfortunately if they want to yap on the corner we have to let them.
Usually, one needs to apply for a permit to use a public area.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#22 Dec 18, 2011
NY TIMES wrote:
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To stand on a corner and preach? I don't think so. You seem to be the kind of person that wants to control things.
To just stand on a corner and preach, probably not.

To intrude into a rented public space, yes, I would think so.
digger

Minneapolis, MN

#23 Dec 18, 2011
CRASSUS wrote:
What's up with Duluth? Is this city overrun with liberal nut jobs?
YES, it IS. I wouldn't live there if my rent/house payment was ZERO, and my utility bills were always paid in FULL by the taxpayers. Half the city is inhabited by NUT JOBS, losers, dopers, tree-hugging, fur-hatin' vegans who can't add 2 plus 2.
I do feel sorry for the other half who live there though. They deserve BETTER.

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