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Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

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Bill would let N.J. cops search phones after crashes

If they can subpoena, why do they need this kind of power?
Politicians have no respect left for the Bill of Rights.

This needs to stop.

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/06/...
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Burnsville, MN

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Jun 10, 2013
 
cantmakeitup wrote:
Bill would let N.J. cops search phones after crashes
If they can subpoena, why do they need this kind of power?
Politicians have no respect left for the Bill of Rights.
This needs to stop.
http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/06/...
I hope the guy that broke the NSA story about the government tracking ALL domestic phone calls and emails gets whistleblower immunity.

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Since: Aug 12

Former MN Tax Payer

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Jun 10, 2013
 
From the article:

"This bill is problematic because it infringes on the privacy rights of citizens," said Alexander Shalom, the ACLU’s state policy counsel. "Our state and federal constitutions generally require probable cause before authorizing a search, particularly when it comes to areas that contain highly personal information such as cell phones."

I agree.
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Jun 10, 2013
 
cantmakeitup wrote:
Bill would let N.J. cops search phones after crashes
If they can subpoena, why do they need this kind of power?
Politicians have no respect left for the Bill of Rights.
This needs to stop.
http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/06/...
If we were allowed to shoot texting drivers, this wouldn't be an issue.
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It requires officers to have "reasonable grounds" to believe the law was broken.

Geez, senile drama queens ...
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You're making stuff up, to pretend cell phone use doesn't cause accidents, when it does.....

Killing Americans SEEMS SO RIGHT !!

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

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1776 Defender wrote:
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In practice this type of legislative "curb" equates to speeding, not wearing your seatbelt, having a cover around your plates from the dealership you purchased the automobile, not having your lights on during light rain at 2pm, etc.
-Understand?
It is also a dandy method of generating additional revenue at the cost of infringing on peoples constitutional rights. And a swell way for cops to get even more on you when they pull you over without having to go through all that due process inconvenience.
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It requires officers to have "reasonable grounds" to believe the law was broken.

Geez, senile drama queens ....

Get a GED, you clearly have reading "difficulties".

Since: Jul 10

Minneapolis, MN

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Jun 10, 2013
 
cantmakeitup wrote:
Bill would let N.J. cops search phones after crashes
If they can subpoena, why do they need this kind of power?
Politicians have no respect left for the Bill of Rights.
This needs to stop.
http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/06/...
Doesn't NJ have a total no usage of cell phones while driving. This including chatting on the phone at the time?
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It could be why they are going after the cell phones to make sure the driver was not talking on the phone at the time.
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Just like one accident in Minneapolis back in about 2000. some lady rear-ended a car while the car in front of her's was stopped at a red light. She had been sooo busy chatting on the phone that she did not realize the car in front was stopped.

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Jun 10, 2013
 
"This bill is problematic because it infringes on the privacy rights of citizens," said Alexander Shalom, the ACLU’s state policy counsel. "Our state and federal constitutions generally REQUIRE PROBABLE CAUSE before authorizing a search, particularly when it comes to areas that contain highly personal information such as cell phones."

Keep a sharp eye out for the R.I.F. trucks.
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It requires officers to have "reasonable grounds" to believe the law was broken.

Geez, senile drama queens ....

Get a GED, you clearly have reading "difficulties".

Since: Sep 11

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Jun 11, 2013
 
"Our state and federal constitutions generally REQUIRE PROBABLE CAUSE before authorizing a search, particularly when it comes to areas that contain highly personal information such as cell phones."

Most people understand that there is a significant legal and constitutional distinction between "reasonable grounds" and "probable cause".

Keep a sharp eye out for the R.I.F. trucks.
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Jun 11, 2013
 
So, they have "cause", beCAUSE there was an at fault accident...

Are you really this simple/stupid ?

Of course, waiting for a judge signed subpoena is "cost effective" & a waste of time, right moron ???

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

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Jun 11, 2013
 
Smart Liberal wrote:
From the article:
"This bill is problematic because it infringes on the privacy rights of citizens," said Alexander Shalom, the ACLU’s state policy counsel. "Our state and federal constitutions generally require probable cause before authorizing a search, particularly when it comes to areas that contain highly personal information such as cell phones."
I agree.
Most people understand that there is a significant legal and constitutional distinction between "reasonable grounds" and "probable cause". But it sometimes requires a certain level of reading comprehension skill which some people lack.

But there are also those who would happily sacrifice their freedoms for (false) security. Those people deserve neither.
Born Consistent

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Bushwhacker wrote:
So, they have "cause", beCAUSE there was an at fault accident...
Are you really this simple/stupid ?
Of course, waiting for a judge signed subpoena is "cost effective" & a waste of time, right moron ???
Please go get that Revolver and give it a spin.

STOP wasting Oxygen that is better utilized by one of God's Single Cell Organisms, than it is by you.

If there was EVER a "just cause" for removing someone from humanity, you are it!

What do you know about this or ANY other issue? From the PC Screen in your single room apartment where your obese Pasty Grey Azz is sustained, your life experiences are akin to a child in a Mental Asylum.

You have absolutely NO LIFE EXPERIENCE and it is revealed in every Poison Post you attempt to create!

Go git that Revolver....NOW!

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Since: Aug 12

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Jun 11, 2013
 
cantmakeitup wrote:
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Most people understand that there is a significant legal and constitutional distinction between "reasonable grounds" and "probable cause". But it sometimes requires a certain level of reading comprehension skill which some people lack.
But there are also those who would happily sacrifice their freedoms for (false) security. Those people deserve neither.
Very true. And with the current political climate in America, they will lose both in total.

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