A mother's vaccine journey

Mar 26, 2011 Full story: StarTribune 228

Hodan Hassan of Minneapolis understands why some parents are afraid to have their children vaccinated.

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Since: Jul 10

Minneapolis, MN

#218 Sep 28, 2013
By the way. Here is something on intelligence testings for Aspergers.
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/09/... Autism spectrum disorders, including Asperger syndrome, have generally been associated with uneven intellectual profiles and impairment, but according to a new study of Asperger individuals published in the online journal PLoS ONE, this may not be the case -- as long as intelligence is evaluated by the right test.
...However, this study reports that Asperger individuals' scores are much higher when they are evaluated by a test called Raven's Progressive Matrices, which encompasses reasoning, novel problem-solving abilities, and high-level abstraction.
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http://www.greatschools.org/special-education... Asperger's syndrome, sometimes called nerd syndrome, is a neurological disorder categorized under the umbrella of autistic spectrum disorders.
...Although children with Asperger's syndrome (or AS) can have normal or above-normal intelligence, when they start school they often experience difficulty functioning in the social world of the classroom. In fact, it's not unusual for these children to remain unidentified as having Asperger's until starting school. The majority of AS children are diagnosed between the ages of 5 and 11.
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http://www.behavioradvisor.com/AspergersSyndr... Cognitive abilities which are average or above average (They are often known as “little professors”)
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http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Cognitive+ab... 1. The mental process of knowing, including aspects such as awareness, perception, reasoning, and judgment.
2. That which comes to be known, as through perception, reasoning, or intuition; knowledge.
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By the way, when they administered the Peabody Test. Remember that in 7th grade I was scoring college levels when tested.
http://www.brighthubeducation.com/special-ed-...
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My husband who is also a aspie, was found to have the vocabulary of a 65 year old college professor at the age of 16.

Since: Jan 07

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#219 Sep 28, 2013
So now you're switching to another scare tactic? Fine. The risk of GBS in 2009/10 was less than 1 case per million pH1N1 doses administered. World wide, 14,286 died of contracting the flu, and it struck young, healthy people.

One out of every four people will be in a car accident in their lifetime. Your chances of dying in a car accident are 1 out of every 140 people

Since: Jan 07

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#220 Sep 28, 2013
By October 2009, 28 healthly pregnant women and their fetuses died due to contracting the H1N1 flu virus.

And from that unlinked info:

"But the authors of the article said that even with an increase in Guillain-Barre cases, the benefits of the vaccination probably outweighed the risk for Quebecers."

GBS is triggered by viruses, vaccine or contracting the flu would have the same results for those susceptable.
MMR CAUSES AUTISM

Winnipeg, Canada

#221 Sep 28, 2013
friend is ranting big time. its all crap

Since: Jul 10

Minneapolis, MN

#222 Sep 28, 2013
friend wrote:
So now you're switching to another scare tactic? Fine. The risk of GBS in 2009/10 was less than 1 case per million pH1N1 doses administered. World wide, 14,286 died of contracting the flu, and it struck young, healthy people.
One out of every four people will be in a car accident in their lifetime. Your chances of dying in a car accident are 1 out of every 140 people
Along with the fact that the troll confused things. I pointed out that I am NOT getting disability payments. Though I might have to in the future. But NOT for my Aspergers. But due to my back. As well as how chemo has messed my body up. Since I don't consider my Aspergers to be a disability.
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If you take a look at one of the post by one of the canadians trolls. This one being post #200. It claims that I am supposedly getting those payments. How can I refund payments I'm not getting. That I would like to know.
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Also, about language comprehension, the trolls forget that Dr Temple Grandin also has autism. http://templegrandin.com/
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As well as if you look at this next site. It has jobs Aspergers and other HFAs can do. Jobs like computer animation, repair work, IT work, etc... It also has some of the worst jobs for we on the upper end of the spectrum. Jobs like cashier in a store, waitstaff, etc...
http://www.myaspergerschild.com/2010/10/best-...
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One company that you have to prove you have Aspergers as well as the other HFAs in order for them to hire you, is Aspiritech. They only hire those with HFAs.
http://aspiritech.org/ Aspiritech provides high quality, competitively-priced, domestic software testing services.
....We do this by harnessing the strengths of people with high functioning autism – attention to detail, precision, an affinity for repetitive tasks, outstanding technology skills – and providing our Test Engineers with a combination of intensive training, structure, and support to mitigate potential workplace challenges.
Ray

Brossard, Canada

#223 Sep 28, 2013
Sangelia wrote:
By the way. Here is something on intelligence testings for Aspergers.
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/09/... Autism spectrum disorders, including Asperger syndrome, have generally been associated with uneven intellectual profiles and impairment, but according to a new study of Asperger individuals published in the online journal PLoS ONE, this may not be the case -- as long as intelligence is evaluated by the right test.
...However, this study reports that Asperger individuals' scores are much higher when they are evaluated by a test called Raven's Progressive Matrices, which encompasses reasoning, novel problem-solving abilities, and high-level abstraction.
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http://www.greatschools.org/special-education... Asperger's syndrome, sometimes called nerd syndrome, is a neurological disorder categorized under the umbrella of autistic spectrum disorders.
...Although children with Asperger's syndrome (or AS) can have normal or above-normal intelligence, when they start school they often experience difficulty functioning in the social world of the classroom. In fact, it's not unusual for these children to remain unidentified as having Asperger's until starting school. The majority of AS children are diagnosed between the ages of 5 and 11.
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http://www.behavioradvisor.com/AspergersSyndr... Cognitive abilities which are average or above average (They are often known as “little professors”)
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http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Cognitive+ab... 1. The mental process of knowing, including aspects such as awareness, perception, reasoning, and judgment.
2. That which comes to be known, as through perception, reasoning, or intuition; knowledge.
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By the way, when they administered the Peabody Test. Remember that in 7th grade I was scoring college levels when tested.
http://www.brighthubeducation.com/special-ed-...
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My husband who is also a aspie, was found to have the vocabulary of a 65 year old college professor at the age of 16.
I am happy you are intelligent. Just stay off the disability paychecks...leave it to the the real autism.

So was Einstein told be Asperger, very smart, led the mankind to the future but he never went around: oh look every body have pity on me, I have Asperger...like I said you have genetic alteration that makes you what you are but please dont sell your self as being autistic or being their speaker.
Ray

Brossard, Canada

#224 Sep 28, 2013
friend wrote:
So now you're switching to another scare tactic? Fine. The risk of GBS in 2009/10 was less than 1 case per million pH1N1 doses administered. World wide, 14,286 died of contracting the flu, and it struck young, healthy people.
One out of every four people will be in a car accident in their lifetime. Your chances of dying in a car accident are 1 out of every 140 people
Its not scare tactic, its real. so you find vaccination scary, so be it so am I.

Now you are changing your words like rat that you are. before on the other posts you were saying no vaccination cause no paralysis, now you are admitting it. You are a fake. Got debunked again the VAXXPUSHER

Since: Jan 07

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#226 Sep 28, 2013
Sorry, you debunked yourself in post #208. Vaccines don't cause paralysis. Viruses do however from your own post, it was "but was a mere coincidence of paralysis with the recent vaccination". Too difficult to understand facts? Even your own posted facts??
BAWAHAHAHA!! You admitted it was a coincidence!

This time ya got me. I didn't debunk you.
YOU debunked YOURSELF!
BAWAHAHAHAHA BAWAHAHAHA Anti vaxxers don't get any better than this!!!
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Winnipeg, Canada

#227 Sep 28, 2013
friend wrote:
Sorry, you debunked yourself in post #208. Vaccines don't cause paralysis. Viruses do however from your own post, it was "but was a mere coincidence of paralysis with the recent vaccination". Too difficult to understand facts? Even your own posted facts??
BAWAHAHAHA!! You admitted it was a coincidence!
This time ya got me. I didn't debunk you.
YOU debunked YOURSELF!
BAWAHAHAHAHA BAWAHAHAHA Anti vaxxers don't get any better than this!!!
get a grip, call your doctor, get a vaccine

Since: Jul 10

Minneapolis, MN

#228 Sep 29, 2013
friend wrote:
Sorry, you debunked yourself in post #208. Vaccines don't cause paralysis. Viruses do however from your own post, it was "but was a mere coincidence of paralysis with the recent vaccination". Too difficult to understand facts? Even your own posted facts??
BAWAHAHAHA!! You admitted it was a coincidence!
This time ya got me. I didn't debunk you.
YOU debunked YOURSELF!
BAWAHAHAHAHA BAWAHAHAHA Anti vaxxers don't get any better than this!!!
Not only that. But that one troll ASSUMES the only thing that a person can get disability checks is for autism.
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If that was true. All those folks who are either blind, unable to walk/or have troubles walking unassisted, have a blood disorder, or some other disability should not be getting those checks. But they are. And in many cases, they have paid into that fund by working a job before they got disabled.
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And considering I worked various outside jobs, I also paid into that fund thru my paycheck being taxed.. So technically if I do end up swallowing my pride, I might be qualified to get those checks myself. But I hear there are a number of hoops one must figuratively jump thru in order to qualify. And some of them are dealing with doctors. As well as alot of paperwork that has to be dealt with too.

http://www.disabilitycasereview.com/common-di...

Since: Jan 07

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#229 Sep 29, 2013
Their primary intent is to provoke readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion. It happens on every topic they're on, in some warped way it avoids providing evidence of their unfounded claims.
Don't get sucked up into it.

Since: Jul 10

Minneapolis, MN

#230 Sep 29, 2013
friend wrote:
Their primary intent is to provoke readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion. It happens on every topic they're on, in some warped way it avoids providing evidence of their unfounded claims.
Don't get sucked up into it.
And they forget that some folks have become famous due to their autism as well.
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Do the trolls assume that this example on supposedly all autistics act and talk?: Ugh UGH uggah!:Bang head against wall several times while flapping hands high in the air:. Oooooh, ugh, bawah.:tries to eat the crayons in front of the person.
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One can provide a ton of proof and the trolls will not accept it. While we are expected to take their word WITHOUT any proof as HOLY GOSPEL!!!
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I just hope that if they have kids, that their grandkids have autism. Especially since they will most likely make sure that the grandkids will not get their shots. Then lets see how they will claim the kid ended up being born on the spectrum. Meaning I hope that their own kids marry someone who has it in their DNA.

Since: Jan 07

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#236 Sep 29, 2013
Sangelia wrote:
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And they forget that some folks have become famous due to their autism as well.
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Do the trolls assume that this example on supposedly all autistics act and talk?: Ugh UGH uggah!:Bang head against wall several times while flapping hands high in the air:. Oooooh, ugh, bawah.:tries to eat the crayons in front of the person.
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One can provide a ton of proof and the trolls will not accept it. While we are expected to take their word WITHOUT any proof as HOLY GOSPEL!!!
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I just hope that if they have kids, that their grandkids have autism. Especially since they will most likely make sure that the grandkids will not get their shots. Then lets see how they will claim the kid ended up being born on the spectrum. Meaning I hope that their own kids marry someone who has it in their DNA.
Anti vaxxers refuse to acknowledge those who progress, which in the end prohibits their own children from progressing. The whole fact goes against their conspiracy theories. As long as they keep attacking people and being anti social, their credibility is zilch.

Since: Jul 10

Minneapolis, MN

#238 Sep 29, 2013
Ray wrote:
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you know where the $$$ goes on autism. to fake ones like you, who get disability paychecks and want the whole worl to have pity on you. you are such a fake being on autism spectrum and trashing anyone who posts here. how do you live with yourself and wishing autism on others? you are the lowest form of mamalian on this planet wishing others to suffer from autism. you genes make you the nut case that you are but dont wish it on others.
Hey lil git. You obviously did NOT see the part where I have pointed out that I am NOT getting those disability checks.
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As for my autism. You mean you have decades more learning than the PROFESSIONAL doctor who diagnosed me as being on the spectrum? Sorry, but you were NOT there when I was going thru all those sessions before he handed me the results of the testing he did.
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Winnipeg, Canada

#239 Sep 29, 2013
friend wrote:
<quoted text>
Anti vaxxers refuse to acknowledge those who progress, which in the end prohibits their own children from progressing. The whole fact goes against their conspiracy theories. As long as they keep attacking people and being anti social, their credibility is zilch.
Big dif between can and can't progress. I guess you can't comprehend that or much of anything. Autism isn't a conspiracy its a vaccine based injury.

Since: Jan 07

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#240 Sep 30, 2013
All children progress, and if yours does not, they have a lot more going on than autism. Not one child with autism doesn't have the ability to progress. They ALL have that ability.

Autism isn't a conspiracy, your claims are. Big difference. Thanks for being another great example.
Ray

Brossard, Canada

#244 Sep 30, 2013
Sangelia wrote:
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Hey lil git. You obviously did NOT see the part where I have pointed out that I am NOT getting those disability checks.
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As for my autism. You mean you have decades more learning than the PROFESSIONAL doctor who diagnosed me as being on the spectrum? Sorry, but you were NOT there when I was going thru all those sessions before he handed me the results of the testing he did.
I could get the same damn diagnosis without playing stupid. how many sessions did you do. did it ever occurr to you may be they are gaining $$$$ on your slowness. may be it is all in your head. may be you just want a diagnosis. you know there are parents who get their kids sick intentionally and seek treatments for the same kid at the hospital so that some one just acknowledges them. could this be it? how can i help you? you communicate very well, you dont seem to have social issues the two main cores of autism spectrum. so you are not on autism spectrum...go get your money back dummy from the psychologists who ripped you off
Ray

Brossard, Canada

#245 Sep 30, 2013
friend wrote:
All children progress, and if yours does not, they have a lot more going on than autism. Not one child with autism doesn't have the ability to progress. They ALL have that ability.
Autism isn't a conspiracy, your claims are. Big difference. Thanks for being another great example.
try talking progress to parents who lost their kids to autism shortly after vaccination. try to sell your progress to kids who have become paralyzed after vaccination.

Since: Jan 07

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#246 Sep 30, 2013
Their kids are lost? Just where did they go?? Still using that paralysis scare tactic that's already been debunked?
You try talking to parents whose children contracted polio from their neighbor who shared their germs. I have actual numbers, unlike you. In 1952, 3,145 died and 21,269 were left with mild to disabling paralysis. Or those parents who lost their babies to pertussis when others also shared their germs. 10 infants died in one year, prior to the ages where their parents had their right to make vaccines choices. Unlike you, that's not scare tactics, but actual history.

Since: Jul 10

Minneapolis, MN

#247 Oct 1, 2013
friend wrote:
Their kids are lost? Just where did they go?? Still using that paralysis scare tactic that's already been debunked?
You try talking to parents whose children contracted polio from their neighbor who shared their germs. I have actual numbers, unlike you. In 1952, 3,145 died and 21,269 were left with mild to disabling paralysis. Or those parents who lost their babies to pertussis when others also shared their germs. 10 infants died in one year, prior to the ages where their parents had their right to make vaccines choices. Unlike you, that's not scare tactics, but actual history.
The troll forgets that kids CAN and in most cases improve with therapy. Like at various ESCE schools that the school district runs.
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http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/aspergers-sy... The core signs of Asperger's syndrome can't be cured. However, many children with Asperger's syndrome grow into happy and well-adjusted adults.
.....Most children benefit from early specialized interventions that focus on behavior management and social skills training.
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https://www.wisconsinmedicalsociety.org/profe... Traits and symptoms that Dr. Asperger described in his group of Asperger’s patients were similar in many respects to Autistic Disorder, but included some unique characteristics as well. In one of his patients, Fritz V, he noted, for example, very early speech, with learning to talk before learning to walk; the ability to express himself in complete sentences, soon “talking like an adult;” the absence of normal speech “melody” or tone such that the natural flow of speech was impaired producing instead a very monotone conversation; stereotypical movements and habits; highly intellectual family history,
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http://everydaylife.globalpost.com/developmen... While children with autism can reach some developmental milestones at about the same time as other children, they can have delays in other areas. The development of language and social skills presents special problems to children with autism spectrum disorders.
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Notice the troll ASSUMES that all folks on the spectrum have troubles with language.
http://specialed.about.com/od/autismandasperg... Asperger's Syndrome exists at the highest end of the autism spectrum. Children with Asperger's have excellent language and often good academic behavior which may mask the very real difficulties they have in academic situations.
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And again the troll assumes that it knows how we live here in this household.
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Does NOT realize that we were assigned social workers shortly after my daughter's birth. Who also saw that she was missing her developmental milestones from what they were observing. And according to them, she was being 'redflagged' for missing several of them. And they also saw her at the therapy schools she went to from the time she was almost two years old. They had free access to her to observe her. Be it here and at her schools.
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As for the claim I was 'doctoring' her to look sick. I refuse to do that. And plus at the time she was found to be on the spectrum. I was dealing with the chemo for the breast cancer triggered by me getting pregnant with her. It was already stage IV when they found it not even five months after she was born. I didn't have much time beyond feeding her and changing her. I was trying to take care of myself. Plus due to all my appts, the nurses at the chemo place would have noticed if I had been 'doctoring' her as well.

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