A mother's vaccine journey

There are 228 comments on the StarTribune story from Mar 26, 2011, titled A mother's vaccine journey. In it, StarTribune reports that:

Hodan Hassan of Minneapolis understands why some parents are afraid to have their children vaccinated.

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Ray

Brossard, Canada

#321 Oct 8, 2013
friend wrote:
Gulf war syndrome is off topic. The only interesting thing was Dr. Theoharides site, under Genetic Mutations
"In April 2012 this study was published that looked at genetic mutations in a set of autistic children that did not have any other autistic family members. The purpose of that was so that the parents most likely did not have any gene mutations that cause autism."
You should had read the linked study. You're just going to kick yourself for one, another anti vaxxer abuse of a study and two, you made the Monday Funnies:
"In addition to highlighting the network’s potential role in autism, Eichler’s team also studied whether the sporadic mutations they found in children came from mutations in a father’s DNA or a mother’s DNA. Eighty percent of the new mutations, they found —both those linked to autism and those seen in unaffected siblings —came from a father’s DNA."
Garbage, genes count for 10% of all autism cases. bragging about which ones doesnt make your lost case any stronger. vaccinepusher

Since: Jul 10

Minneapolis, MN

#322 Oct 8, 2013
trapped by your lie wrote:
The gent from Canada used to claim "Millions and millions" of people had died from vaccines.His latest "research" claims "32 unconfirmed deaths" after 46 million doses of a certain vaccine have been given.Not millions and millions,but a "unconfirmed" start,huh?
Just like he attacked my husband in the way the troll as usual assumes on how we here live our lives.
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My husband also, like me, does NOT get disability payments. My husband has a outside job. Meaning he gets a paycheck that supports us thru his job.
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As well as the troll assumes that I have alot of free time here when the bulk of my day is consumed by doing housework.

Since: Jan 07

Location hidden

#323 Oct 8, 2013
trapped by your lie wrote:
The gent from Canada used to claim "Millions and millions" of people had died from vaccines.His latest "research" claims "32 unconfirmed deaths" after 46 million doses of a certain vaccine have been given.Not millions and millions,but a "unconfirmed" start,huh?
Those Canada gents claim many things, and if or when either ever provides a link, they both end up arguing it! Classic Tuesday Funnies! They only reliable content they ever offer is a good laugh.

Since: Jul 10

Minneapolis, MN

#325 Oct 9, 2013
friend wrote:
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Those Canada gents claim many things, and if or when either ever provides a link, they both end up arguing it! Classic Tuesday Funnies! They only reliable content they ever offer is a good laugh.
Very true about the humour bits
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Thing is, pretty much everything they have listed or expected us to take as HOLY GOSPEL(hands waving as if in church singing gospel songs) has been debunked in years past. But like some of the luddittes I know of, you can not get them to understand that technology does help to save lives.
Ray

Brossard, Canada

#327 Oct 10, 2013
friend wrote:
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Those Canada gents claim many things, and if or when either ever provides a link, they both end up arguing it! Classic Tuesday Funnies! They only reliable content they ever offer is a good laugh.
what a ugly rant!!! we are not trying to convince you autism is caused by vaccines. Its you who tries to dismiss the link. You have your beliefs, I have mine and I say Vaccines cause autoimmune disorders and Autism. I dont have to show a fool like you anything. You dont like it get a life.

Since: Jan 07

Location hidden

#330 Oct 10, 2013
You can say and believe anything you want. Problem with that is when you come to a forum and make claims you cant back up. I don't dismiss the link, there simply is no proof of a link. Hello. The reason why you don't provide evidence is simply because you have none and there is none. That's why anti vaxxers always resort to attacking others, an attempt to deflect they're all talk but no evidence to back them up.
Ray

Brossard, Canada

#331 Oct 10, 2013
friend wrote:
You can say and believe anything you want. Problem with that is when you come to a forum and make claims you cant back up. I don't dismiss the link, there simply is no proof of a link. Hello. The reason why you don't provide evidence is simply because you have none and there is none. That's why anti vaxxers always resort to attacking others, an attempt to deflect they're all talk but no evidence to back them up.
My claim is Vaccines cause immune disorders and autism. I have seen kids regress into autism few days after vaccination. You have to work in the field to see it otherwise one stays blind as you are. If you are vaccinated then whats the problem, you are safe.LOL
ric99

Market Rasen, UK

#332 Oct 11, 2013
What Canadian Ray doesn't understand is that the correlation between date of vaccination and date of regression into autism is extremely low. The NEJM published study looked at 316 cases of regressive autism (53 of whom had NOT been vaccinated), and compared dates of vaccination (of the vaccinated kids) with the dates of regression.

3 kids regressed within 6 months of vaccination.
21 kids regressed 6 - 11 months after vaccination.
22 kids regressed 12 - 17 months after vaccination.
31 kids regressed 18 - 23 months after vaccination.
42 kids regressed 24 - 29 months after vaccination.
33 kids regressed 30 - 35 months after vaccination.
90 kids regressed 36 - 59 months after vaccination.
21 kids regressed more than 60 months after vaccination.

If the cause of regressive autism is vaccination, how come 53 of the 316 kids who regressed weren't vaccinated, and how come only 3 of the 316 kids who regressed did so within 6 months of vaccination?

Looking at these figures, one could conclude that non-vaccination was a major cause of regression (53 out of 316) using Canadian Ray's type of (non)logic.

Real logic indicates that there is no link between vaccination or non-vaccination and date of regression.

Since: Jan 07

Location hidden

#333 Oct 11, 2013
Saint-hubert, Canada has in the past already stated what field he works in, however anyone can claim they work any where on a public forum. Means nothing. Aside from that, his claim of 'seeing' children regressing days after vaccination is just another Friday Funny. Just what field might that be??!! And are you the only one in that field??!! And since you're in that 'field', what age and what vaccine??!!
Ray

Brossard, Canada

#337 Oct 11, 2013
friend wrote:
Saint-hubert, Canada has in the past already stated what field he works in, however anyone can claim they work any where on a public forum. Means nothing. Aside from that, his claim of 'seeing' children regressing days after vaccination is just another Friday Funny. Just what field might that be??!! And are you the only one in that field??!! And since you're in that 'field', what age and what vaccine??!!
Wouldnt you like to find out!!! You dont have to listen or understand, I dont give a chit. But vaccines are causing major immune disorders including autism. But they are not alone, its a combination of vaccines and antibiotics. Which ones? what combinasion? what interaction?

Since: Jan 07

Location hidden

#338 Oct 11, 2013
You got nothing but a lot of talk that you cant back up.

Since: Jul 10

Minneapolis, MN

#340 Oct 11, 2013
friend wrote:
You got nothing but a lot of talk that you cant back up.
It also seems that the troll also assumes that being on the spectrum somehow gives immunity to things like cancer. I wish it did. But life being life, one deals with problems as they come about.
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As well as the troll assumes that being on the spectrum somehow puts the person who is on it into some sort of vacuum living. Where the person does not interact with anyone.
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When in many cases, we on the spectrum DO interact with folks. Be it parents, relatives, friends of the family as well as any of the friends we do make through out life. Along with total strangers who we meet while at home or out and about.
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This includes one's spouses. Many aspies tend to marry other aspies. Since we tend to share many of the same interests.
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I get the feeling that the trolls wish that folks on the spectrum were still treated like those in the past like about 1870. When they were either thrown away like trash into state hospitals, or exhibited in freak shows. Or kept at home and taught there. During the time when girls were not expected to have much knowledge beyond keeping the homework done and raising a passel of kids.
ric99

Lincoln, UK

#341 Oct 12, 2013
So now, the semi-illiterate Canadian Ray claims that it's not just vaccines that cause autism, but a combination of vaccines and antibiotics. Soon he will be adding aspirin, antiseptic creams, cough mixtures, etc.

Where is the evidence for any of his claims? There is none of course. It's all just paranoia on his part, and paranoia is not evidence.

Since: Jul 10

Minneapolis, MN

#344 Oct 12, 2013
ric99 wrote:
So now, the semi-illiterate Canadian Ray claims that it's not just vaccines that cause autism, but a combination of vaccines and antibiotics. Soon he will be adding aspirin, antiseptic creams, cough mixtures, etc.
Where is the evidence for any of his claims? There is none of course. It's all just paranoia on his part, and paranoia is not evidence.
As well as that troll will be most likely be adding that riding in cars cause it too. Just like that one Judicial idiot who is trying to claim that driving a car causes fertility problems for women.
Ray

Brossard, Canada

#347 Oct 12, 2013
Sangelia wrote:
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As well as that troll will be most likely be adding that riding in cars cause it too. Just like that one Judicial idiot who is trying to claim that driving a car causes fertility problems for women.
its you who is the idiot living on disability payments, you and you family are all on diability handouts. Claiming to be on autism spectrum...what a leech
UK TEABAG

Winnipeg, Canada

#356 Oct 19, 2013
ric99 wrote:
So now, the semi-illiterate Canadian Ray claims that it's not just vaccines that cause autism, but a combination of vaccines and antibiotics. Soon he will be adding aspirin, antiseptic creams, cough mixtures, etc.
Where is the evidence for any of his claims? There is none of course. It's all just paranoia on his part, and paranoia is not evidence.
Shows you don't read chump. Try it.
trapped by your lie

Calhoun, GA

#357 Oct 24, 2013
UK TEABAG wrote:
<quoted text> Shows you don't read chump. Try it.
I want to see the evidence you have of "...seeing kids regress in days...".After all,you're "in the field".I have a feeling your evidence will be right up there with your claim of "millions and millions killed" by vaccines.
friend of BS

Winnipeg, Canada

#358 Oct 24, 2013
trapped by your lie wrote:
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I want to see the evidence you have of "...seeing kids regress in days...".After all,you're "in the field".I have a feeling your evidence will be right up there with your claim of "millions and millions killed" by vaccines.
why indulge an ignorant troll?

Since: Jan 07

Location hidden

#359 Oct 24, 2013
trapped by your lie wrote:
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I want to see the evidence you have of "...seeing kids regress in days...".After all,you're "in the field".I have a feeling your evidence will be right up there with your claim of "millions and millions killed" by vaccines.
He'll come up with every excuse as to why he wont give the evidence but we all know there is no evidence.
trapped by your lie

Calhoun, GA

#360 Oct 24, 2013
friend of BS wrote:
<quoted text> why indulge an ignorant troll?
Well,I guess I indulge you because the more you reply,the bigger laugh we get.You were referring to yourself by that post,correct?

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