Wisconsin's new ban will snuff smoker...

Wisconsin's new ban will snuff smokers' haven

There are 39 comments on the TwinCities.com story from May 14, 2009, titled Wisconsin's new ban will snuff smokers' haven. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Crossing state lines into Wisconsin has been an option for many Minnesotans dead-set on smoking in bars.

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cheapersmokes

Minneapolis, MN

#1 May 14, 2009
I am just waiting for my check that we were all told we would see in the reduced health insurance premiums due to the removal of the risks of 2nd hand smoke. Now you even see the hospitals laying off workers.

Y\ou people are forgetting that 100% of ALL Non smokers DIE! So Smokem UP! Why do you think GOD gave you two lungs!:-)
Archie

AOL

#2 May 15, 2009
Sounds like it's about time for usual law abiding citizens to tell the damn Nazis to put their law where the sun don't shine.

It is patriotic to unitate on defacto law and the promotors of it, and 100% non complaince to the Nazi's "directive" is what the doctor ordered.
Archie

AOL

#4 May 15, 2009
Just great

You mean Moosehead is no longer a felony in Wisc?
Hanna

Saint Paul, MN

#6 May 15, 2009
bla bla bla,same old thing. This horrible new turn of events will lead right down the road to demolishing your liberties. It seems the good people of Wisconsin have also voted in the wrong people.

Before people start whining,I DO NOT SMOKE!! I am tired of big brother sticking his nose in to EVERYTHING!!

believe me it will be something else down the line and it will never end.
Marylyn

Saint Paul, MN

#7 May 15, 2009
THERE IS NOT ONE PROVEN CASE OF A SECOND HAND SMOKE DEATH!!
NOT ONE!! ANYONE WHO SAYS DIFFERENT IS LYING!!

Since: Aug 08

Hugo, MN

#8 May 15, 2009
Another legislature purchased by anti smoking interests whose money, by the way, comes from the sale of tobacco products. After raising tobacco taxes to collect ever more revenue on the premise, " it is for your own good don't ya know", the hypocracy continues. Wisconsin, has now become just another fascist state defining smokers as "second class citizens". Let us know when your leaders have the guts to ban the SALE of tobacco if they REALLY believe the pretentious propaganda spewing from the Capitol. BTW, you Wisconsin "chubbies" are next! That ought to raise a ton of revenue (no pun intended).
Eli

Minneapolis, MN

#9 May 15, 2009
There will be no uptick in Minnesota hospitality venues due to the Wisconsin ban. The smokers will just stay home. And where are all those would-be bargoers that were just waiting for the smoke to clear? All those in favor of the ban said these smoke haters would MORE than make up for the smokers that now stay home. You don't suppose we were lied to....do you?
grama who cares

Saint Paul, MN

#10 May 15, 2009
I will never go to any restaurant in minnesota,and when wisconsin changes i wont go there either. You just lost lots of money.
Bob from ALAMN

Big Lake, MN

#11 May 15, 2009
My, what a group of glommy Guses and sad Sallys!

Congratulations, Wisconsin. North Dakota, you're next! You too, Indiana.
GreenLantern

United States

#12 May 15, 2009
I wish they would have passed this 20 years ago. I don't even go out to the bar in WI anymore because I can't stand reeking of smoke when I go home. I won't be shedding any tears for you smokers.......
Jimmy

Minneapolis, MN

#13 May 15, 2009
I've never seen any credible evidence that second-hand-smoke is harmful to anyone but if a few little white lies and exaggeration about its effects are what it takes to pass these bans, that's fine with me.

Now these bar owners will be forced to cater to MY preferences and if that drives some of them out of business...so be it. No skin off my nose. There's probably too many bars anyway.

“SAY WHAT ???????????????”

Since: Mar 09

BULLRUSH

#14 May 15, 2009
best include chewin tabbacky in there also,nothing more gross than a plastic cup at the bar full of spit,ifin I cann't smoke they cann't chew
Eli

Minneapolis, MN

#15 May 15, 2009
So Jimmy - you feel that it's okay to use lies and fraudulent science to pass laws that will take the food right out of the mouths of business owners and their employees?
Jimmy

Minneapolis, MN

#16 May 15, 2009
Eli - any half witted idiot knows that these bans are designed to, shall we say, "encourage" smokers to quit which is a favorable end and I think any means necessary to accomplish this end should be employed.

Yes, there will be some casualties along the way. It's a fact that many businesses will not survive this and many will have to find other work but it seems a small price to pay for a smoke-free world.
Chebama

Saint Paul, MN

#19 May 15, 2009
Jimmy wrote:
Eli - any half witted idiot knows that these bans are designed to, shall we say, "encourage" smokers to quit which is a favorable end and I think any means necessary to accomplish this end should be employed.
Yes, there will be some casualties along the way. It's a fact that many businesses will not survive this and many will have to find other work but it seems a small price to pay for a smoke-free world.
Yea, especially in these great economic times. Who cares about a small family business anyway. Perhaps they can get a bailout too. Oh wait, never mind, they didn't contribute enough campaign money to qualify for one.

“We're All In This Together.”

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#20 May 15, 2009
26 states and counting.....

It seems pretty pathetic to me that the only reason some people ever go out is to smoke! Good grief, that is so sad that you can't enjoy an evening with friends or seeing a show without having to pollute the air around you.
Robert

Minneapolis, MN

#21 May 15, 2009
Having a smoking section in a bar or restaurant is like having a peeing section in a swimming pool.

Even if it had nothing to do with health, I think these laws are long overdue. If smokers want to walk around smelling like butts, that is their decision, but those of us who don't deserve the right to be able to drink and socialize without being subjected to it.
Ted

Saint Paul, MN

#22 May 15, 2009
This is what you get when you vote for democrats.
Jessica

Minneapolis, MN

#23 May 15, 2009
Robert wrote:
Having a smoking section in a bar or restaurant is like having a peeing section in a swimming pool.
Even if it had nothing to do with health, I think these laws are long overdue. If smokers want to walk around smelling like butts, that is their decision, but those of us who don't deserve the right to be able to drink and socialize without being subjected to it.
I agree, you DO have the right to not smell like smoke and to avoid any smokey establishments if you so wish. However, I also have the right to smoke in a bar, seeing is how I'm over the age of 21 and cigarettes are legal for me to purchase and consume. You want to go out = you go to non-smoking place. I want to go out = I go to place where I can smoke. There should be a choice. Bar owners should be able to say that they do or do not want their place of business to be one where smoking is allowed. Everyone is happy.
Jimmy

Minneapolis, MN

#24 May 15, 2009
Jessica wrote:
<quoted text>Bar owners should be able to say that they do or do not want their place of business to be one where smoking is allowed. Everyone is happy.
No, everyone is NOT happy because that would interfere with our goal of "encouraging" people to QUIT smoking. Allowing them venues where smoking is allowed does not send the proper message.

Smokers are a stubborn lot and we plan on getting into their cars first, and then their living rooms. These things have to be done delicately though. Incremental is the key.

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