Introducing THE Boeing Nightmare Line...
Philo Beddoe

Mesa, AZ

#21 Feb 3, 2013
Amused Slew wrote:
I sold off the year it led the Dow, but this is an opportunity, whether you're intelligent enough to realize it or not. If you own it now, it's been dead money, what's wrong with you ?
I bought it at 40, it's now at 75 and you think something is wrong with my decision?
Maxamillion

Minneapolis, MN

#22 Feb 3, 2013
Amused Slew wrote:
Pretty sad, you start a dumb thread second guessing an American business, which is innovating and finding minor hurdles.
Even an idiot, like you ... has to realize THEY DON'T MAKE THE BATTERIES and the problem will be fixed.
When YOU NEED to disparage American workers, get on a Airbus jet and leave.... POS !!
Only an idiot like you wouldn't understand the severity/complexity of the 787 failure. Unless they can fix the current design, not possible, they will need to do a redesign of the 2 battery packs and all associated control systems on the 787. Once they think they have a good design, for the second time, the new airplane must go through recertification and flight worthiness tests by the FAA.

All this rework may take 2+ years. Meanwhile the 787 assembly line may not be able to churn out new planes and AirBus may be able to ramp up and capture the entire market.

At that time Boeing will go broke.
Amused Slew

Kent, WA

#23 Feb 3, 2013
Philo Beddoe wrote:
<quoted text>
I bought it at 40, it's now at 75 and you think something is wrong with my decision?
Hasn't been 40 for at least 3 years, so yes...You made a stupid decision.... Yup, made a possible 20 percent and I do better....
Amused Slew

Kent, WA

#24 Feb 3, 2013
Maxamillion wrote:
<quoted text>
Only an idiot like you wouldn't understand the severity/complexity of the 787 failure. Unless they can fix the current design, not possible, they will need to do a redesign of the 2 battery packs and all associated control systems on the 787. Once they think they have a good design, for the second time, the new airplane must go through recertification and flight worthiness tests by the FAA.
All this rework may take 2+ years. Meanwhile the 787 assembly line may not be able to churn out new planes and AirBus may be able to ramp up and capture the entire market.
At that time Boeing will go broke.
I like idiots, they talk a lot, but ignore wager offers, because they lie... The battery rework will take a month or less.

Philo Beddoe

Mesa, AZ

#25 Feb 3, 2013
Amused Slew wrote:
<quoted text>Hasn't been 40 for at least 3 years, so yes...You made a stupid decision.... Yup, made a possible 20 percent and I do better....

What has been the peak? You really don't know how the market works, do you? I try to buy low and sell high. I bought the stock at 40, it's at 75 and I believe it will go higher. No, I did not buy it three years ago, I have had it longer than that.
Amused Slew

Kent, WA

#26 Feb 4, 2013
SO, your return is even WORSE ?? LMAOROTFU~! I've told you about a stock, with a 40% gain in the last 3 months, YOU do the math !!! LMAOROTFU~!
Maxamillion

Minneapolis, MN

#27 Feb 4, 2013
Amused Slew wrote:
<quoted text>I like idiots, they talk a lot, but ignore wager offers, because they lie... The battery rework will take a month or less.
You ignore: problem diagnosis, redesign, manufacturing redesign, manufacturing certification, production rampup and testing, plane modifications, test flights, FAA recertification, burn in, flight tests, evaluation of results, flight ready.

Rework on a commerical jet is NOT simple/quick.
Amused Slew

Kent, WA

#28 Feb 4, 2013
Maxamillion wrote:
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You ignore: problem diagnosis, redesign, manufacturing redesign, manufacturing certification, production rampup and testing, plane modifications, test flights, FAA recertification, burn in, flight tests, evaluation of results, flight ready.
Rework on a commerical jet is NOT simple/quick.
With your spelling, you're too clueless to comment...

BUT, I will TAKE THIS BET !!!

"All this rework may take 2+ years"

How does 50k sound ???

Under 2 years and YOU LOSE !!!
Schmahl Spew

Saint Paul, MN

#29 Feb 4, 2013
Maxamillion wrote:
With flamable batteries.
Read about it, the 787 will be grounded for MONTHS because the battery packs burn up for some unknown reason. The technology is prone to "runaway" burn once one cell starts to burn. Boeing packed large arrays of cells with little insulation and no cooling.
Result FIRE IN THE HOLD!!!
Isn't Seattle where the 787 is made??
Hey Slewer, how about a comment? Try to keep it less than defensive.
Notice that our friend Mr. Schmahl is now an expert in airliner construction.

This despite the fact that he can't even SPELL flammable.

ROFLMAO!!!!
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#30 Feb 4, 2013
Amused Slew wrote:
<quoted text>With your spelling, you're too clueless to comment...
BUT, I will TAKE THIS BET !!!
"All this rework may take 2+ years"
How does 50k sound ???
Under 2 years and YOU LOSE !!!
By your logic, you should take the same bet for having the problem fixed under a month, since that is the statement of time you claim it will take to fix the battery problem. Since the 787 was grounded on January 16th, 2013, you have about a week to make good on your "month".
Maxamillion

Minneapolis, MN

#31 Feb 4, 2013
You understand as well as I do the complexities of a commercial planes certification process.

Can you imagine if the FAA allowed a plane to fly and it crashed into the Superdome full of people?

OR if it crashed into a building like the WTC?

What if a FAA certified heavy jet like the 787 crashed into the MOA after having a battery fire?

That is why the FAA is very careful of allowing planes to fly and was quick to ground the 787 following the 2 fires on the plane.

Rework doesn't compute in the FAA. It's isolate the problem, redesign the component, certify, test, modify the plane, test production, test fly the plane, load the plane and fly it a million miles with the new component.

This recertification process takes a long time as well it should!
Maxamillion

Minneapolis, MN

#32 Feb 4, 2013
BTW, all of the previous stated facts are available in the internet, google if interested.
Schmahl Spew

Saint Paul, MN

#33 Feb 4, 2013
Notice that our friend Mr. Schmahl is now an expert in airliner construction.

This despite the fact that he can't even SPELL flammable.

ROFLMAO!!!!
Schmahl Spew

Saint Paul, MN

#34 Feb 4, 2013
Notice that our good friend Mr. Schmahl is now an expert in airliner construction.

This despite the fact that he can't even SPELL flammable.

ROFLMAO!!!!
Maxamillion

Minneapolis, MN

#35 Feb 4, 2013
Amused Slew

Kent, WA

#36 Feb 4, 2013
non-starter wrote:
<quoted text>By your logic, you should take the same bet for having the problem fixed under a month, since that is the statement of time you claim it will take to fix the battery problem. Since the 787 was grounded on January 16th, 2013, you have about a week to make good on your "month".
By your "logic", I'll take the month bet, from the day I said it would take a month....

"The battery rework will take a month or less."

My month started 2/3/13 are you accepting the 50k wager ???

COME ON MOUTH !!! LMAOROTFU~!
Hey Slewer

Minneapolis, MN

#37 Feb 4, 2013
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#40 Feb 4, 2013
Amused Slew wrote:
<quoted text>By your "logic", I'll take the month bet, from the day I said it would take a month....
"The battery rework will take a month or less."
My month started 2/3/13 are you accepting the 50k wager ???
COME ON MOUTH !!! LMAOROTFU~!
Since Boeing started the re-work January 16th, and before that really, your month ends Feb. 15th, by the wording of your own post "the battery rework will take a month or less". I didn't see anywhere in your post where you said a month or less from today.
Maxamillion

Minneapolis, MN

#41 Feb 4, 2013
Latest, months to MAYBE fly the 787 again.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-575674...

Lithium Ion batteries are NOT allowed to be checked as baggage.

HOWEVER Boeing airplanes are allowed to fly with Lithium Ion batteries as part of the airplane..

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Where has the Obama FAA been?
This is stunning

Minneapolis, MN

#42 Feb 4, 2013
Read the following, in the bottom you see comments regarding Lithium Ion batteries being classified as hazardous cargo. How on God's green earth (or blue sky) can those same "hazardous" batteries be allowed to be a part of the 787 OR any airplane?

http://www.arabianbusiness.com/us-calls-for-s...

Obama's FAA, where are you?

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