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Jack Diamond

Minneapolis, MN

#22 Jan 4, 2009
Right now, I'm more concerned about the coda and apotheosis from "The Nutcracker," which I'm digging. That music BTW was put together by an undercover homo who just kept going and gave the world some fantastic music. So it's what you can do, not what some liberal fruitcakes think should be done for you from good people's hard-earned money.
Bawney Fwank

Minneapolis, MN

#23 Jan 4, 2009
I'm a lesbian in a man's body.
Bob

Minneapolis, MN

#24 Jan 4, 2009
Giving these freaks a legitamate sounding label like transgender is insulting. There is no such thing as transgender. The correct word is sick.
Jack Diamond

Minneapolis, MN

#25 Jan 4, 2009
Bawney Fwank wrote:
I'm a lesbian in a man's body.
Quite frankly, Barney would like a frankfurter up his butt.
SHUT UP

Quinton, OK

#26 Jan 4, 2009
Pgetty wrote:
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I have a question for you. If you had sex with the transwoman and enjoyed it, and were not able to tell that she was a man at one point in her life, why does it bother you so much? I mean you got the sex you were looking for?
It would bother me because they would have just misleaded me, and that is wrong to do to anyone. If I slept with what I thought was a man and was told after it was a woman who got a dick job I would be furious. People who get sex changes need to tell their not really what they seem if it's an unsuspecting relationship or one night stand.
rectumeruv

Saint Paul, MN

#27 Jan 4, 2009
These whack jobs are too busy obsessing about their genitalia to contribute anything useful to society. They should all be thrown onto an iceflow off northern Alaska and sent on their way.

“Peace the old fashioned way”

Since: Jan 09

Montevideo

#28 Jan 4, 2009
Tom from Saint Paul wrote:
....... They don't want our sympathy-just equality.
So do Zoophiles, Pedophiles,frotteurists, necrophiliacs, voyeurs, exhibitionists, masochists, sadists, & other assorted paraphiliacs. Why shouldn't they have the same rights as other sickos? Why shouldn't they have the right to fulfill their fantasy of having sex with their dead wife or the family pooch? Why is one perversion or deviancy more legitimate than another? For that matter why can't we go out on the front lawn & rut like common animals? Sick is sick & abnormal is abnormal regardless of whatever silly politically correct label you attach to it.

“Just call me Das. ”

Since: Jul 07

Centereach, NY

#29 Jan 4, 2009
Nota Sheep wrote:
I wish these people would get it right. It is not a "gender" change, it is a "sex" change. The terms are not interchangeable!!! Gender is a grammatical term. A person has a "sex", either male or female. A noun has a "gender", either masculine or feminine.
That's part of it.

But gender is also a phenomenon of personal identity and has to do with the relationships between people.

That sort of thing is also gender. And no, not all transgender people are also transsexual.
Marilyn

Teaneck, NJ

#30 Jan 4, 2009
<sarcasm mode on>

I don't know... I think people who go out and sit on a frozen lake, get drunk and call it fishing are sick too. Maybe those whacko sick-jobs should be force to add a special check box the their drivers licenses. Also, I think I would be really mad if I allowed one of those mentally unstable "Fishermen" serve me something they "caught."

</sarcasm mode off>

Seriously, I thought Minnesota was a free state. If we are not hurting you, then let us live our own lives. If you should meet, date and enjoy our company without knowing our full history, then be thankful that two human beings can enjoy themselves.

Does everyone here reveal their complete history whenever you first meet a new person? Why don't you (non-trans folks) should tell every new person you meet the history and status of your gender presentation? How about the history and status of your genitalia?

“Just call me Das. ”

Since: Jul 07

Centereach, NY

#31 Jan 4, 2009
SHUT UP wrote:
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It would bother me because they would have just misleaded me, and that is wrong to do to anyone. If I slept with what I thought was a man and was told after it was a woman who got a dick job I would be furious. People who get sex changes need to tell their not really what they seem if it's an unsuspecting relationship or one night stand.
Interesting.

So, you think you have the right to everyone else's medical history?

You don't, actually. Yes, if someone's in a relationship, that information should be revealed, because it's important to who the individual is.

But a one night stand? No. Someone who hooks up with you for a one-night stand really doesn't owe you highly personal information about his/her life.
60 Gunner

United States

#32 Jan 4, 2009
Hitler had the right idea ,just wrong race.Should have gotten rid of the twinks and hanks.
Bob The Bilderberg

Saint Paul, MN

#33 Jan 4, 2009
Roughrider50 wrote:
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So do Zoophiles, Pedophiles,frotteurists, necrophiliacs, voyeurs, exhibitionists, masochists, sadists, & other assorted paraphiliacs. Why shouldn't they have the same rights as other sickos? Why shouldn't they have the right to fulfill their fantasy of having sex with their dead wife or the family pooch? Why is one perversion or deviancy more legitimate than another? For that matter why can't we go out on the front lawn & rut like common animals? Sick is sick & abnormal is abnormal regardless of whatever silly politically correct label you attach to it.
Yeah, that makes sense. It's sort of like the whole h-o-mo-s-e-x-u-a-l thing. These people have chosen to define themselves by how they engage in sexual relations. I mean, most people define themselves by what they do for a living or what country they come from or whether or not they are a man or a woman.

Yup. It's pretty whacked to define yourself by who you choose to "do it" with yet I'm supposed to respect them.
60 Gunner

United States

#34 Jan 4, 2009
Bob The Bilderberg wrote:
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Yeah, that makes sense. It's sort of like the whole h-o-mo-s-e-x-u-a-l thing. These people have chosen to define themselves by how they engage in sexual relations. I mean, most people define themselves by what they do for a living or what country they come from or whether or not they are a man or a woman.
Yup. It's pretty whacked to define yourself by who you choose to "do it" with yet I'm supposed to respect them.
No chit.They should be taken out of the gene pool to protect the real human race.
Riden Bareback

Saint Paul, MN

#35 Jan 4, 2009
So as to Cool of a Hot Topic,
One of my favorites:

What do you call a bunch of female GayBees,
LesBees..........

“Just call me Das. ”

Since: Jul 07

Centereach, NY

#36 Jan 4, 2009
Bob The Bilderberg wrote:
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Yeah, that makes sense. It's sort of like the whole h-o-mo-s-e-x-u-a-l thing. These people have chosen to define themselves by how they engage in sexual relations. I mean, most people define themselves by what they do for a living or what country they come from or whether or not they are a man or a woman.
Yup. It's pretty whacked to define yourself by who you choose to "do it" with yet I'm supposed to respect them.
Except we didn't do the defining. Sure, we've created a community, but the only thing that made that possible or necessary was our systematic exclusion and abjection on the part of the community at large.

Don't like the LGBT community? The solution is simple -- work with us to make the community obsolete. That means securing legal and social equality. When it's no big deal that we're gay, when we have our civil rights, when our families and religious communities don't reject us for being gay, we'll no longer need a community.

See? Easy.
SHUT UP

Quinton, OK

#37 Jan 4, 2009
Dasein9 wrote:
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Interesting.
So, you think you have the right to everyone else's medical history?
You don't, actually. Yes, if someone's in a relationship, that information should be revealed, because it's important to who the individual is.
But a one night stand? No. Someone who hooks up with you for a one-night stand really doesn't owe you highly personal information about his/her life.
It's important for anyone your going to sleep with to know too. That is how some of these people get into trouble, they sleep with someone who has no idea and as soon as they find out they get themselves beat up or killed. No one wants to sleep with a man or woman and find out it actually wasn't. If they don't want to tell then they should not have one night stands. It is wrong to mislead like that.
Jack Diamond

Minneapolis, MN

#38 Jan 4, 2009
At least one person took the sane larger view. If you let one sexually fuged-up whacko, then it opens to door to other such frauds.

I can see buddies Fred and Ferd, who are normal guys who can't get a deal on housing, posing as transfuged-upperos and getting deals on housing.

And it won't stop there, feghelah will say, "Lithen here, Lance and I are also in love with Ferd, Mervin, Sylvester and Fatheringay. So we want to EXPAND the homowhacko law to include as many thex pardners as we can. You silly gooses. WhEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE."

There will be many winners
of many weeners.

In short, feghelah, transfuggers and all other sex whackos cant' have it BOTH WAYS.
Jack Diamond

Minneapolis, MN

#39 Jan 4, 2009
Dasein9 wrote:
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Interesting.
So, you think you have the right to everyone else's medical history?
You don't, actually. Yes, if someone's in a relationship, that information should be revealed, because it's important to who the individual is.
But a one night stand? No. Someone who hooks up with you for a one-night stand really doesn't owe you highly personal information about his/her life.
I didn't want a one-night-stand, so I took her to bed. It was a lot more comfortable than standing up doing the love thingy.
TiVo Girl

Saint Paul, MN

#40 Jan 4, 2009
rectumeruv wrote:
I sure hope these people can get the mental help they need.
Hey, ignorant fool...who says it's a mental problem? The sister of a friend of mine was born a girl, but growing up with her (I've known her since we were 8 years old and we're both middle-aged now) she looked like a boy, acted like a boy, was asked on dates by other girls until they found out she was a girl, herself, and grew up to be a "lesbian". Reproductively, however, she never developed quite right. Her breasts barely grew in, her hips never spread out, and she rarely menstruated.

Finally, years later, she had a chromosome test. Guess what? Turns out that genetically she had 3 chromosomes...two X chromosomes (which normally makes a person female) and a Y chromosome (XY would make a person male). This person was literally a man trapped in a woman's body. She just never had the androgens present during prenatal development that would have caused her to develop male genitalia.

She eventually had the surgery to make herself into a male, changed her name to a male's name, and has been living properly as a man ever since.

Mentally he is doing better now than he ever had in his life before he corrected the problem that nature gave him. Yes, I said nature. This was not his choice. This was something that occurred on the day he was conceived.
Jack Diamond

Minneapolis, MN

#42 Jan 4, 2009
TiVo Girl wrote:
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Hey, ignorant fool...who says it's a mental problem? The sister of a friend of mine was born a girl, but growing up with her (I've known her since we were 8 years old and we're both middle-aged now) she looked like a boy, acted like a boy, was asked on dates by other girls until they found out she was a girl, herself, and grew up to be a "lesbian". Reproductively, however, she never developed quite right. Her breasts barely grew in, her hips never spread out, and she rarely menstruated.
Finally, years later, she had a chromosome test. Guess what? Turns out that genetically she had 3 chromosomes...two X chromosomes (which normally makes a person female) and a Y chromosome (XY would make a person male). This person was literally a man trapped in a woman's body. She just never had the androgens present during prenatal development that would have caused her to develop male genitalia.
She eventually had the surgery to make herself into a male, changed her name to a male's name, and has been living properly as a man ever since.
Mentally he is doing better now than he ever had in his life before he corrected the problem that nature gave him. Yes, I said nature. This was not his choice. This was something that occurred on the day he was conceived.
Too much whiskey to make you frisky before sex caused the malfunction.

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