Lies, Damn Lies and ObamaCare

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Yes, it's an opinion piece. But let's face it, the proverbial shoe fits.

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cantmakeitup wrote:
Yes, it's an opinion piece. But let's face it, the proverbial shoe fits.
http://www.foxbusiness.com/business-leaders/2...
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wish this was just about lying, dishonesty, and accountability. To me, it goes way beyond that. To me, and apparently the Merriam Webster dictionary, this is fraud:

fraud noun \ˈfrȯd\

a : deceit, trickery; specifically : intentional perversion of truth in order to induce another to part with something of value or to surrender a legal right

If a CEO or CFO of a public corporation pulled something like this, it would be fraud. The only difference is this fraud was committed against the American people. Not a small percentage of the American people. Not just the ones with individual coverage. Not just the ones who had subpar plans, whatever that means.

We’ve recently seen reports that, way back in 2010, the Obama administration knew ObamaCare would dramatically disrupt private health insurance plans. They knew that at least 93 million Americans would lose their health plan coverage. And, by some estimates, the actual number will be much higher.

According to the administration’s commentary in the Federal Register, in addition to individual plan disruption,“The Departments’ mid-range estimate is that 66% of small employer plans and 45% of large employer plans will relinquish their grandfather status by the end of 2013.”

Perhaps more importantly, under ObamaCare we will have fewer choices, higher premium costs, and far fewer doctors. Let me spell that out for you: fewer choices + higher costs + fewer doctors = poorer health care.

I’m no constitutional expert but it sure looks to me as if at least two branches of the Federal Government – branches that are supposed to provide checks and balances to keep each other from overstepping their bounds – committed fraud by perverting the truth and subverting the constitution to get Americans to give up some of their rights.

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If a private corporation had tried to pull this off, the leadership of that corp would be in jail right now.

This is a deliberate attempt to defraud the citizens of the USA.
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remember this is barry's mess, with his name attached. And, most important not one republican votes for this mess - disaster - destruction of our health care as we know it. It will become socialized medicine with wealth re distribution in the background. Remember America the more you make the more they will take.

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wish this was just about lying, dishonesty, and accountability. To me, it goes way beyond that. To me, and apparently the Merriam Webster dictionary, this is fraud:
fraud noun \&#712;fro&#775;d\
a : deceit, trickery; specifically : intentional perversion of truth in order to induce another to part with something of value or to surrender a legal right
If a CEO or CFO of a public corporation pulled something like this, it would be fraud. The only difference is this fraud was committed against the American people. Not a small percentage of the American people. Not just the ones with individual coverage. Not just the ones who had subpar plans, whatever that means.
We’ve recently seen reports that, way back in 2010, the Obama administration knew ObamaCare would dramatically disrupt private health insurance plans. They knew that at least 93 million Americans would lose their health plan coverage. And, by some estimates, the actual number will be much higher.
According to the administration’s commentary in the Federal Register, in addition to individual plan disruption,“The Departments’ mid-range estimate is that 66% of small employer plans and 45% of large employer plans will relinquish their grandfather status by the end of 2013.”
Perhaps more importantly, under ObamaCare we will have fewer choices, higher premium costs, and far fewer doctors. Let me spell that out for you: fewer choices + higher costs + fewer doctors = poorer health care.
I’m no constitutional expert but it sure looks to me as if at least two branches of the Federal Government – branches that are supposed to provide checks and balances to keep each other from overstepping their bounds – committed fraud by perverting the truth and subverting the constitution to get Americans to give up some of their rights.
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If a private corporation had tried to pull this off, the leadership of that corp would be in jail right now.
This is a deliberate attempt to defraud the citizens of the USA.
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'Barry tells his minions not to worry. He has imported killers from middle Europe and China to handle whatever revolution may develop. And we know that our own troops are indoctrinated to follow the orders of their superiors, and that many senior military leaders have been ejected from the armed forces.
What with government buying up tons of bullets and weapons to arm this SS force and the eagerness of many blacks to extract revenge on the whites, it could be another Bolshevik mass murder.
If this sound farfetched, just remember that it has all happened before. Ask any German Jew.
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What's amazing to me is that idiot Obama worshipers are still defending this disaster and actually blaming Republicans for its failures!! Rep Israel wrote an op ed in which he blamed the lackluster Obamacare start on GOP leaders that didn't pound the pavement and line up more applicants!! WTF! You people really are insane!

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