Affordable Care Act

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#61 Oct 8, 2013
LIbEralS wrote:
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I wasn't talking about MNSure. I was talking about the rise in healthcare insurance cost for those of us getting our insurance through our employer's plan.
Cindy Vinson, of San Jose, Calif., "Of Course I Want People to Have Health Care, I Just Didn’t Realize I Would Be the One Who Was Going to Pay for It Personally"
Isn't the out of pocket cost for Obamacare determined not only by the plan you choose but also tied to your income level?

And even if it is capped at $7000 for everyone (which is doubtful), how many people who are making less than $40K can afford that? Obamacare has done nothing to reduce the cost of health care as promised. It has only raised the cost of coverage for pretty much everyone.

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LIbEralS

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#65 Oct 8, 2013
Obamacare Marketplace: Personal Data Can Be Used For "Law Enforcement and Audit Activities".

We will not sell your information to others. Any information that you provide to us in your application will be used only to carry out the functions of Maryland Health Connection. The only exception to this policy is that we may share information provided in your application with the appropriate authorities for law enforcement and audit activities...

If you send us an e-mail, we use the information you send us to respond to your inquiry. E-mail correspondence may become a public record. As a public record, your correspondence could be disclosed to other parties upon their request ...

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LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#67 Oct 8, 2013
Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius was unable to Say Why Business, Not Individuals, Given Obamacare Delay:

Last night, Jon Stewart asked Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius a simple question: Why was business given the opportunity to delay Obamacare, but individuals were not?
"But if I'm an individual, I'm wondering -- well, an individual who doesn't want this, because there are individuals who clearly that want this -- but if I'm an individual that doesn't want this, it would be hard for me to look at a big business getting a waiver and not having to do it, and me having to, because I would think, Well, gee, it looks like because I don't have a lobbying group," Steward asked. "I would feel like you were favoring big business because they lobbied you to delay it because they didn't want to do it this year, but you're not allowing individuals that same courtesy."

After a back-and-forth, which consisted of Stewart asking that simple question and Sebelius trying to avoid answering that question, Sebelius makes the argument that actually individuals can delay it if they pay a fine:


STEWART: So why is it that individuals, though, couldn't say that they didn't want to do it just for a year, like business?
SEBELIUS: Well, they can.
STEWART: Oh, they --
SEBELIUS: They'd pay a fine. They'd pay a fine at the end of the year, but they don't have to -- I mean, they can say I didn't want to do it. The theory is they can't pick and choose if they're going to get hit by a bus or diagnosed with a illness. For a lot of young folks, there is one fall on the basketball court, one auto accident from a lifetime of hospital bills they can't pay.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/sebelius-...

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LIbEralS

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#69 Oct 11, 2013
Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

WASHINGTON (CBSDC)— Dr. Ben Carson slammed President Barack Obama’s signature health care during his speech at the Value Voter’s Summit Friday.

“Obamacare is really, I think, the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery,” Carson declared.“It is slavery in a way because it is making all of us subservient to the government.”

Carson said the implementation of the Affordable Care Act was never about health care, only control.

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/10/11/dr-...

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LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#71 Oct 13, 2013
MORE ObamaCare progress?

Nine insurance companies are pulling out of Nebraska's major medical insurance market, and some of them cite Obamacare as the reason for their departure.

Aetna, American Family Mutual Insurance, Humana, Independence American Insurance Company, Reserve National Insurance Company, Standard Security Life Insurance Company of New York, Companion Life Insurance and United Security Life and Health Insurance have all informed the state insurance department of their intent to stop selling health insurance to individuals - and in some cases - groups.

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LIbEralS

Minneapolis, MN

#72 Oct 16, 2013
LEFTY blogger can't afford Obamacare:

My wife and I just got our updates from Kaiser telling us what our 2014 rates will be. Her monthly has been $168 this year, mine $150. We have a high deductible. We are generally healthy people who don't go to the doctor often. I barely ever go. The insurance is in case of a major catastrophe.

Well, now, because of Obamacare, my wife's rate is gong to $302 per month and mine is jumping to $284.

I never felt too good about how this was passed and what it entailed, but I figured if it saved Americans money, I could go along with it.

I don't know what to think now. This appears, in my experience, to not be a reform for the people.

What am I missing?

I realize I will probably get screamed at for posting this, but I can't imagine I am the only Californian who just received a rate increase from Kaiser based on these new laws.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/09/30/1242...

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Since: May 11

Burnsville, MN

#74 Oct 16, 2013
Is the american democracy so fragile that if the government helps some people buy health insurance from a private company our country will fall aparrt?? I think not.

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LIbEralS

Minneapolis, MN

#76 Oct 16, 2013
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Is the american democracy so fragile that if the government helps some people buy health insurance from a private company our country will fall aparrt?? I think not.
What is your point?

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Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#77 Oct 16, 2013
Snake Dr wrote:
Is the american democracy so fragile that if the government helps some people buy health insurance from a private company our country will fall aparrt?? I think not.
If it were only that simple, I would be fine with it. Unfortunately, it is not.

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Since: May 11

Burnsville, MN

#78 Oct 16, 2013
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If it were only that simple, I would be fine with it. Unfortunately, it is not.
Then you explain to me why people buying health insurance from a private company is socialisim. I could understand your argument if Obamacare was universal health insurance, but its not. By the way that was a compromise. Something you refuse to admit the democrats do.

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Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#79 Oct 16, 2013
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Then you explain to me why people buying health insurance from a private company is socialisim. I could understand your argument if Obamacare was universal health insurance, but its not. By the way that was a compromise. Something you refuse to admit the democrats do.
Besides the fact that the government is involved in the first place, there is that whole "you all have to buy health insurance or fork over money to the IRS or end up having wages garnished, assets frozen, jail time" thingy.

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Since: May 11

Burnsville, MN

#80 Oct 16, 2013
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Besides the fact that the government is involved in the first place, there is that whole "you all have to buy health insurance or fork over money to the IRS or end up having wages garnished, assets frozen, jail time" thingy.
So then the draft was socialisim?? Paying income tax is socialisim?

The ACA is a free market where people buy insurance from private companys. The mandate is the thing that makes it socialisim?? The mandate was a republican idea.

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Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#82 Oct 16, 2013
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So then the draft was socialisim?? Paying income tax is socialisim?
The ACA is a free market where people buy insurance from private companys. The mandate is the thing that makes it socialisim?? The mandate was a republican idea.
Being forced to purchase a product you may not want under penalty of law by your government is close enough. Or maybe it's totalitarian as opposed to socialism. Whose idea it was is not really relevant. It is fundamentally wrong. The federal government should not be able to force people to purchase anything.

Paying taxes is a whole other can of worms. It's one thing to pay taxes to support the infrastructure, education, some research, military, etc. It's quite another to be subjected to the degree of taxation without representation we have today in a totally unbalanced, allegedly "progressive" tax code.

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LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#85 Oct 17, 2013
Hey, what do you expect for only 95 million!

Obamacare Website Violates Licensing Agreement for Copyrighted Software:
Company to pursue action against HHS for using copyrighted web script.

Healthcare.gov , the federal government's Obamacare website, has been under heavy criticism from friend and foe alike during its first two weeks of open enrollment. Repeated errors and delays have prevented many users from even establishing an account, and outside web designers have roundly panned the structure and coding of the site as amateurish and sloppy. The latest indication of the haphazard way in which Healthcare.gov was developed is the uncredited use of a copyrighted web script for a data function used by the site, a violation of the licensing agreement for the software.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obamacare...

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“I am always right.”

Since: Oct 09

Former MN Taxpayer

#86 Oct 17, 2013
Snake Dr wrote:
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The ACA is a free market where people buy insurance from private companys.
Wow. There is no bigger falsehood than that.

The government sets the parameters that insurance companies must meet in order to offer health care policies to the public.

The government dictates pricing and profit limitations on all policies that are offered to the public.

The government determines the levels of and what type of health care are offered to the public.

If that is a "free market", I am an Obamabot. And we all know that is not the case.

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free market - noun

an economic market or system in which prices are based on competition among private businesses and not controlled by a government

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fre...

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Since: May 11

Saint Paul, MN

#87 Oct 17, 2013
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Wow. There is no bigger falsehood than that.
The government sets the parameters that insurance companies must meet in order to offer health care policies to the public.
The government dictates pricing and profit limitations on all policies that are offered to the public.
The government determines the levels of and what type of health care are offered to the public.
If that is a "free market", I am an Obamabot. And we all know that is not the case.
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free market - noun
an economic market or system in which prices are based on competition among private businesses and not controlled by a government
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fre...
Sorry, I don`t see it that way. Live with it

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“I am always right.”

Since: Oct 09

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#88 Oct 17, 2013
Snake Dr wrote:
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Sorry, I don`t see it that way. Live with it
You don't see it that way? Yet you offer nothing to disprove any statement I made. In other words, you don't like being told the truth.

In another thread, I said Obama is a fascist. I stand by that statement.

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Under fascism, the state, through official cartels, controlled all aspects of manufacturing, commerce, finance, and agriculture. Planning boards set product lines, production levels, prices, wages, working conditions, and the size of firms. Licensing was ubiquitous; no economic activity could be undertaken without government permission. Levels of consumption were dictated by the state, and “excess” incomes had to be surrendered as taxes or “loans.”

http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/Fascism.ht...

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Obamacare fits right into the definition of Economic Fascism as stated above.

You can not dispute the facts. To use your own words ... Live with it.

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goose

Chicago, IL

#89 Oct 17, 2013
A sign of far right wing desperation - calling Obama a fascist.

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Since: May 11

Saint Paul, MN

#90 Oct 17, 2013
IrishMN wrote:
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You don't see it that way? Yet you offer nothing to disprove any statement I made. In other words, you don't like being told the truth.
In another thread, I said Obama is a fascist. I stand by that statement.
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Under fascism, the state, through official cartels, controlled all aspects of manufacturing, commerce, finance, and agriculture. Planning boards set product lines, production levels, prices, wages, working conditions, and the size of firms. Licensing was ubiquitous; no economic activity could be undertaken without government permission. Levels of consumption were dictated by the state, and “excess” incomes had to be surrendered as taxes or “loans.”
http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/Fascism.ht...
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Obamacare fits right into the definition of Economic Fascism as stated above.
You can not dispute the facts. To use your own words ... Live with it.
Believe whatever you want. Who cares

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LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#93 Oct 18, 2013
This is what you get when you bypass the bidding process for a government contract:

The government contract for the company that built the glitch-prone website for Obamacare has ballooned to three times its original cost, and some Republicans are demanding the resignation of the cabinet secretary who oversees it.

Since its launch, on Oct. 1, the site has been plagued by crashes as Americans to try log on and enroll for health insurance. The Obama administration has conceded that the launch has been rockier than it had hoped.

The U.S. arm of a Canadian company, CGI, had the biggest role of the many contractors that worked on the rollout. It won the contract in October 2011. At the time, it had an estimated cost of up to $94 million. By May of this year, that cost ceiling had swelled to $292 million.

ALL THIS FOR 292 million!

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/18/21...

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