Regulators Wary of Boeing's Plan to Fix the Dreamliner

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non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#1 Mar 2, 2013
Regulators Wary of Boeing's Plan to Fix the Dreamliner

By Daniel Ferry
March 2, 2013

Boeing (NYSE: BA ) has spent the past week meeting with transportation safety regulators first in the United States and now in Japan, pushing a plan to fix the concerns that have had the 787 Dreamliner grounded since mid-January. Boeing's customers are losing money and Boeing's reputation suffers every day the planes aren't flying, so Boeing would like to get the planes back in the air as soon as April.

Boeing has traced the problems, which have included smoke infiltrating the plane cabin and even a small fire, to large, advanced lithium ion batteries in the plane's wing, which can overheat. While investigators don't yet know what causes the batteries to overheat in the first place, Boeing's fix involves mitigating this event by insulating the batteries, surrounding them in a fireproof case, and venting gases that could build up inside the battery compartment.

While the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration is not yet ready to allow test flights , Japanese regulators aren't even ready to admit that the battery itself is the problem, according to The New York Times. At a press conference, Japanese transport minister Akihiro Ota called Boeing's plan a "starting point" and indicated that his ministry would need to take some time just to evaluate the proposal to see if its satisfactory. If Japanese regulators don't accept that the battery is at fault, and require Boeing to go back to the drawing board for a more comprehensive fix, resuming flights by April would look very unrealistic.

There may be a bit of nationalist pride in Japan's regulatory position here: The batteries in question were produced by GS Yuasa, a Japanese company. That nationalism could hurt Boeing now, but it has certainly helped in the past. I doubt it's any accident that Japanese suppliers produced around a third of the Dreamliner, a larger portion than any other country, and Japanese national airlines have been the biggest customers for the Dreamliner.

Japanese airlines, including launch customer All Nippon Airways and Japanese national flag-carrier Japan Airlines, between them operate around half of the global 787 fleet. In the U.S., just six Dreamliners have been delivered nationwide, all of them to United Air Lines (NYSE: UAL ).

Japan's preponderance of Dreamliners means that even though Boeing is an iconic American company, Japanese regulators actually have far more clout than US regulators in determining when and how the 787 gets back in the air. Of course, Japan's heavy investment in the Dreamliner also means the nation has a strong incentive to get the plane back in the air as quickly and safely as possible.

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Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#8 Mar 2, 2013
Tal ?

Yep, a moron.

Twist the truth, while you call strangers your "gay hubby" under the same moniker I'm using ? Not much honesty in your world, is there ???

So childish, you believe you have value politically ... HARDLY HAR HAR ~!
Ralph

Saint Paul, MN

#9 Mar 2, 2013
Japan sees the Boeing fix as a band aid not adaquate for a long term solution.

A fireproof containment box, insulation etc, spells BANDAID!!

Do YOU want to fly a plane across the Pacific with the potental of a "contained" fire in a battery box?

Of course not.

The Japanese know if she flys again and has another fire (third) the FAA will ground it again.
Schmahl Theme Song

Minneapolis, MN

#11 Mar 2, 2013
Another Saturday night and I ain't got nobody
I got no money cuz I got no job
How I wish I had someone to talk to
I'm in awful mess
I blew in town 40 years ago, I ain't seen a lotta girls since then
If I could find'em I could get'em but as yet I have'nt met'em
That's why I'm in the shape I'm in ohhhh

Another Saturday night and I ain't got nobody
I got no money cuz I got no job
How I wish I had someone to talk to
I'm in awful mess
Another fella told me he had a sister that looked so fine
Instead of being my deliverance, she had a strong resemblance
To a cat named Frankenstein ohhhh....

Another Saturday night and I ain't got nobody
I got no money cuz I got no job
How I wish I had someone to talk to
I'm in awful mess
It's hard for a fella, when he don't know his way around
If I can't find me a honey to help me spend her money
I'm gonna have to blow this town ohhh....

Another Saturday night and I ain't got nobody
I got no money cuz I got no job
How I wish I had someone to talk to
Im in awful mess
Ralph

Saint Paul, MN

#12 Mar 3, 2013
I won't be flying on any GreenLiner with a battery pack that is designed to burn under control.

How many informed flyers will fly on a plane designed to burn BUT confine the fire to the battery box?

You want to fly over the pacific or atlantic is a plane designed to burn?

You a fool?

There are sharks out there and northren atlantic routes are over freezing water.
Ralph

Saint Paul, MN

#13 Mar 5, 2013
She flying today?

Let me check......NO she's still grounded.
liBeRALs

Minneapolis, MN

#14 Mar 5, 2013
Schmahl Theme Song:

Another Saturday night and I ain't got nobody
I got no money cuz I got no job
How I wish I had someone to talk to
I'm in awful mess
I blew in town 40 years ago, I ain't seen a lotta girls since then
If I could find'em I could get'em but as yet I have'nt met'em
That's why I'm in the shape I'm in ohhhh

Another Saturday night and I ain't got nobody
I got no money cuz I got no job
How I wish I had someone to talk to
I'm in awful mess
Another fella told me he had a sister that looked so fine
Instead of being my deliverance, she had a strong resemblance
To a cat named Frankenstein ohhhh....

Another Saturday night and I ain't got nobody
I got no money cuz I got no job
How I wish I had someone to talk to
I'm in awful mess
It's hard for a fella, when he don't know his way around
If I can't find me a honey to help me spend her money
I'm gonna have to blow this town ohhh....

Another Saturday night and I ain't got nobody
I got no money cuz I got no job
How I wish I had someone to talk to
Im in awful mess
Ralph

Saint Paul, MN

#15 Mar 5, 2013
787 remains grounded.

Japan doesn't like the bandaid fix Boeing is working on.

Will YOU ride a plane with a burnable battery?
Ralph

Saint Paul, MN

#16 Mar 10, 2013
Boeing bandaid.

Thanks to McNerny the loser from 3M.

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